Does my modded small sun ZY-TO8 have a chance against Monsters 3x's, XMLU2?

Sounds like its time to get a hard-driven BTU Shocker with dedomed xml2’s on noctigon and show him what a real light will do. :slight_smile:

And I could have afforded if I didn’t buy two green pistol lasers for the shootout damn I shot myself in the foot again :bigsmile:

Is this the old or the new DRY? I have only used the old dry driver. I don’t know if they are the same or not.

It isn’t a buck driver but it actually has quite a bit of resistance. It’s kinda sorta direct drive. But with very thin wires and as long as you don’t go with high amp batteries it will just handle it. It has to be on good copper with very good thermal paste. I would bet that it’s pushing close to 7amps that way. Definitely all that one XM-L2 can handle. It’s quite a sight to see when it’s done right.

Oh and de-domed of course and it does help to remove the bottom of the reflector so that you can get the nice tight center circle beam. To get it perfect it has to sit almost right on top of the star, pretty much flat with it.

WAIT correction is this the NEW or the OLD DRY driver? Is there a difference? Because I have only done this with the old one.

I think k Relic 38 the builder could answer that sorry

I wouldn’t change it anyway. It’s a great light with the MT-G2. I have a bunch of the ZY-T08’s and I dig them all.

Well I’m not sure this is a good comparison to do, you are going to give your friend an impression his light is “good”, even a reasonable quality configuration of that light should beat yours in output, so if he “wins” its a “given”, similar to the apple winning over the orange in an apple category. If he loses its quite sad though… :slight_smile: Yours wins in tint, and output from one emitter, cost, probably in quality. But, even if you win in lumen output, because of tint, his will “seem” brighter at a lower lumen output than yours will to most people, and for a perceptual “win” I’d guess yours needs to be very significantly brighter.

I think you may have a chance for a lumen output win though, really don’t think that monster light has XML2s or they would advertise it. Then, the way it looks the head is recessed in a large lipped bezel, I’m going to guess this would eat a lot of output too. So if its a standard 3xXML and produces about 800-900 lumens each, and the bezel and glass eat 30%, that puts you in win territory pretty quickly. Probably a $40 well driven SRK and a Warrior for the same price would both be pretty close or beat it is my guess, do you have one of either of those to take to compare?

If its XML2 and driven well, buy a modded BTU shocker for next time and blast it away to show how your light at 1/2 the price is so much better :stuck_out_tongue: Most any J18 should be in that category for $45-55 in true lumens (but thats also not ‘fair’ since its 6 emitters, and I don’t think the monster light really outputs even near 3300 lumens.)

Edit: another indicator its a “dud”: “2 x 18650 or 3 x 18650 protected rechargeable li-on batteries (sold separately) with 3.5 amp PCB. Light will also operate on 6x CR-123A batteries with 3.5 amp PCB” <— if it runs on this, its got to pull less than 3.5A, (which means probably 3 A) and again only XMLs…and down below is 90 min runtime on 3x2600mAh batteries on high?? Thats far below 2.6A per emitter then, more like 1.75A each…

this what I am hoping for and monster just upgraded from T- 6s to the next bin up to XMLU2 not the XML2 and I know that in the past the monster lights were only capable of about 50% of their advertised out put I even at one time spoke to the owner and asked the owner of the company if the light actually put out what he advertised and he said that he didn’t have the equipment to measure the output but that they were bright and I wouldn’t be disappointed, but as ever else has noted it’s an apple to oranges comparison a thrower vs a flooder, any one willing to lend me a budget thrower I’ll even put up some collateral.

Why don’t you just get a $40 Warrior? Its not really worth it to be shipping these lights around with or without ‘collateral’ anyways. You’d probably spend $10+ each way to send the light you want to borrow, plus $10 for your collateral each way, which already adds up to the price of the Warrior!

The Warrior is in the same category, so good for comparison, even though it isn’t a true “thrower”, it throws better than SRK. With the variable output level you’ll probably like the Warrior it even if his ‘Monster’ light happens to be not the expected poor output, but I’d say there is a very good chance it would beat it…for less than 1/5th the cost, smaller package, variable output and instant off/on side switch :slight_smile: