Emisar D18 introduction

[JasonWW]

A lesser known feature is you can also search for keywords said by any particular member, including yourself, regardless of the thread.

Let’s say you wanted to find where Toykeeper mentioned the NarsilM bug or were you mentioned something, but can’t remember what thread it was in.

You click on the name, go to the tab labeled “My Posts” and there is a search pane under “Search Comments”. The key here is to search for a word you don’t use often.

[ToyKeeper]

@ToyKeeper

I should also have a review up pretty soon with more details about the D18.

… and it’s up. I still have a few details left to fill in, but most of the data is there:

TK's Emisar D18 review -- 3x18650 photon grenade

Emisar D18 This is the Emisar D18, produced by Hank Wang of Intl-Outdoor. Also available from Mtn Electronics. [image] [image] Disclaimer: I’m not an impartial reviewer. I helped make this, so I’m biased. Official Specs From Emisar’s site: CNC machined from aircraft-grade aluminium High Efficiency optics Driven direct by FET, from 5A and below linear constant regulation Anti-reflective coated glass lens Unihead construction High lumen output and low moon output Ramping interface Elec…

[Coscar]

[Dmitriyrus]

@SKV89

Ordered an XP-L HI v2 5D from Hank

Do you think it is possible to order a more efficive bin from Hank ? Bin v2 is not the most effective.

[DB_Custom (Dale)]

So many times availability is a big issue, trying to buy a quantity of the most popular bin can be expensive… these guys don’t have unlimited finances and normally they are developing new stuff while supplying current stuff, lot of money to put on the table speculating it will sell. And then, there is simply no way to make everybody happy, which is where modding comes in.

[mattadores]

For all of you interested in blended tint variants or TK’s amazing four tint D18 I have exciting news!

I’ve just created a thread because I talked to Hank and he’s confirmed that he’s willing to build custom tint-mixed versions of the D18 for anyone for an additional $15!!

CUSTOM Emisar D18 builds are AVAILABLE!

@JoeH12.81

That is awesome @ ToyKeeper. Do you think Hank would produce this for anyone willing to pay the freight? or is this a thank you of sorts for all the time you invest? :sunglasses:

@swiftblade13

@ToyKeeper

@komeko

Why are so few companies doing 4500K high CRI ?. I really like this range.

A lot of recent high-CRI emitter don’t come in 4500K. I don’t know why. They go up to 4000K, and they go above 5000K, but they have nothing between. If I recall correctly, this is the case for SST-20, LH351D, and 219C. And if I recall correctly, SST-20 doesn’t even have high CRI above 4000K.

However, there are still ways to get 4500K. With so many emitters, it would be a great light for some tint mixing. Put in a mix of 4000K and 5000K emitters, and the tint should be a nicer color temperature which also has a slighly more pink bias.

It could be arranged like this, for example: 9x4000K, 9x5000K

Or to make things look even nicer, it could use all four emitter tints: 3x3000K, 6x4000K, 6x5000K, 3x6500K

This would probably make a very nice-looking ~4700K beam with vivid color rendering, as long as the emitters have the same Vf.

so I’ve been out of the loop for a while but how easy/hard would this be to accomplish for a first time modder?

[kat]

I don’t get it, what’s the advantage of having multiple colors?

[niktak11]

@kat

I don’t get it, what’s the advantage of having multiple colors?

Tint mixing

[iamlucky13]

@niktak11

@kat

I don’t get it, what’s the advantage of having multiple colors?

Tint mixing

To clarify, when you mix emitters of multiple color temperatures, the result is not only a color temperature in between that of the different emitters, but also a tendency to be less green-tinted / more rosy tinted.

It’s not a priority for everyone, but a useful technique for those who put a high value on pleasant tint.

This is not the same as tint-ramping, such as the upcoming BLF LT1 lantern will utilize, but requires different hardware.

[Skylight]

Would it be possible to get the Emisar D18 without any leds? I want to swap some Luxeon V2s (4000K) inside as I like the high output of the 5000K SST20 but 4000K is the better tint for me and the 4000K SST20 have too low output.

[d_t_a]

@ToyKeeper

@komeko

Why are so few companies doing 4500K high CRI ?. I really like this range.

A lot of recent high-CRI emitter don’t come in 4500K. I don’t know why. They go up to 4000K, and they go above 5000K, but they have nothing between. If I recall correctly, this is the case for SST-20, LH351D, and 219C. And if I recall correctly, SST-20 doesn’t even have high CRI above 4000K.

However, there are still ways to get 4500K. With so many emitters, it would be a great light for some tint mixing. Put in a mix of 4000K and 5000K emitters, and the tint should be a nicer color temperature which also has a slighly more pink bias.

It could be arranged like this, for example: 9x4000K, 9x5000K

Or to make things look even nicer, it could use all four emitter tints: 3x3000K, 6x4000K, 6x5000K, 3x6500K

This would probably make a very nice-looking ~4700K beam with vivid color rendering, as long as the emitters have the same Vf.

Will we also be able to request special order of the customized D18 with 4 mixed tints like the one ToyKeeper has? That is: 3x 3000K, 6x 4000K, 6x5000K, 3x6500K
emitters?

[iamlucky13]

@d_t_a

Will we also be able to request special order of the customized D18 with 4 mixed tints like the one ToyKeeper has? That is: 3x 3000K, 6x 4000K, 6x5000K, 3x6500K
emitters?

The initial expectation was no, but somebody asked anyways, and Hank said yes. See here:

CUSTOM Emisar D18 builds are AVAILABLE!

There’s been a lot of buzz around the custom 4 different tint SST-20 D18 that Hank built for TK. I’ve also seen a number of users request information on whether they could buy one like that. I decided to PM Hank to ask and he confirmed YES he is willing to do custom builds for the D18 for an upcharge! Custom multi-tint (tint-mixing) SST-20 D18: PM Hank advising what you want and send him your order # - custom build charge is an additional $15.00 ($114.00 total price) Custom XPL-HI …

[Tixx]

Just placed my order and PM’d Hank. I have no button top. Will these work? https://www.rtdvapor.com/lg-18650-hg2-3000mah-20a-button-top/

[Tixx]

@Dmitriyrus

@SKV89

Ordered an XP-L HI v2 5D from Hank

Do you think it is possible to order a more efficive bin from Hank ? Bin v2 is not the most effective.

What is the most efficient?

[SKV89]

V2 is the most efficient for XP-L HI 4000k 5D. V3 exist for 5000k 3A but is extremely hard to source. Fireflies sold the 5000k V3 version initially but ran out of it and was only able to source the 5000k V2 subsequently. Not sure if the ones they are selling now is V2 or V3. Think I heard something about them finding another batch of 5000k V3.

[Tixx]

Did I just kill Hank’s website with my order? I can’t get his site on my computer or phone.

[Tixx]

@SKV89

V2 is the most efficient for XP-L HI 4000k 5D. V3 exist for 5000k 3A but is extremely hard to source. Fireflies sold the 5000k V3 version initially but ran out of it and was only able to source the 5000k V2 subsequently. Not sure if the ones they are selling now is V2 or V3. Think I heard something about them finding another batch of 5000k V3.

Thanks! I asked him for the same XP-L 4000k V2 5D setup

[JasonWW]

@Tixx

Just placed my order and PM’d Hank. I have no button top. Will these work? https://www.rtdvapor.com/lg-18650-hg2-3000mah-20a-button-top/

Should be fine.

[ledalex]

@Skylight

Would it be possible to get the Emisar D18 without any leds? I want to swap some Luxeon V2s (4000K) inside as I like the high output of the 5000K SST20 but 4000K is the better tint for me and the 4000K SST20 have too low output.

Someone mentioned you could order one for $10 less.

[Skylight]

That should have been me. I recently PMed Hank and he told me that you can get the D18 without leds for 10$ less. Not sure if that represents the actual cost of the leds, though.