Found a Trustfire Z3 zoomie that looks promising

To me anyway...

I found it here on e-bay but I dont know the seller or store: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zoomable-1000-lumens-5-Mode-CREE-XML-XM-L-T6-LED-Aluminum-Flashlight-Torch-Light-/400248776113?pt=US_Flashlights&hash=item5d30afa5b1#ht_4588wt_1270

But it raises more questions than it settles

Does anyone have experience with the seller? Good or bad :-)

Does anybody have any experience with this specific light. I kind of like the looks a bit like my Sipik sk68 (which i love) since it has the same kind of finned head. Funny though that it has the orange bezel ring like my Romisen zoomie (which i never use since it has a dreadful twist to zoom where you have to twist and twist and twist to change from one end of the scale to the other.

I do realize that the xml led is NOT ideal for this kind of application - but still ;-) I like it.

Looks like 1:1 copy of Romisen RC-C8.

It was a nice light, long runtime and wide flood. Lens is bigger but it travels further from led thus capturing less light from led. IMO not brighter than my RC-C6 with Q5, my RC-C8 was with R2...

I received mine this week from a different ebay seller (cyberp...) and it's my first 18650 powered led light.
It has a twist zoom as well and it kind of squeaks when zooming in and out quickly, especially when going back to flood mode.

(I'm totally new to this)

Ah

Edit: What the heck happened to the rest of my rant? I noticed in a later answer that half of what i wrote was missing and went back over this to check. Da***t - I wish I was consistent enough to retrace my thought from yesterday LOL!

Will just try and post this to see if it shows...

Some of these places seem to have access to a brand name randomiser.

I received mine two weeks ago. Ordered this just because it looks cool and is XML. But I got a dud. Barely puts out 40 or so lumens and in a square shape. So dim you can stare right at the emitter. Doesn't seem to focus as well, anyway. I'm getting a replacement.

LOL

Ohh well I just dont follow the development and threads close enough to be in the know I guess.

And @ Rusty Joe: Sorry to hear about that, would hate to have it happen to me and just know I couldnt handle it in a grown up, professional manner.

I currently have a 200LM Redline. But I gave it to my wife, to travel with, so I'm looking for a more powerful replacement. I found the Z3 in a number of places. The place that had the most complete package is one that I'm not familiar with. Has anyone heard of TopKing? Here is the link to the offer.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zoom-In-Out-1000-LM-CREE-XM-L-T6-LED-Aluminum-Flashlight-Torch-2x18650-Charger-/120785628894

If I find that the Z3 is a good light and that this is a good seller, then it's probably what I'll go with.

I have both flashlights: a Romisen RC-C8 and a Trustfire Z3.

I really love most of my Romisen flashlights, and in general Romisen is my favorite brand, easily more to my taste than Ultrafire flashlights. My problem with Ultrafires is that they have electrical problems, like not turning on, or not staying on, or changing modes all by themselves whenever they feel like it.

But anyway, despite my general favor for Romisens, I must say that the Trustfire Z3 is a better flashlight than the Romisen RC-C8.

Why?

Trustfire Z3's XML T6 LED's bright mode is significantly brighter than the Romisen C8's Q5 LED's bright mode. The bright mode on the Romisen is about as bright as the medium setting on the Trustfire.

The Trustfire has an energy-saving low brightness mode that is dimmer than the dim mode on the Romisen, so if you just need a little light the 18650 battery in the Z3 will last longer than the one in the Romisen will.

The Trustfire's solid angle of illumination, at widest, is about 40% larger than that of the Romisen.

The Trustfire Z3 has a minor aesthetic flaw of having a slightly square light field that has a trace of edge darkening. This is due to the larger size of the XML T6 LED in relation to the reflector, which is the same size as the reflector behind the Romisen's Q5.

Still, overall the Z3 is far the better flashlight.

Private listing, where did you find it? Usually they don't show up in search results.

I prefer listings in Hong Kong rather than China, all the stuff from China usually sits around til it gets sent to Hong Kong anyway.

I usually get items from Hong Kong to Australia in 7 days or so, items from China take a month or more.

I have seen them for $22 on other sites as well, but I'm sure I could find cheaper if I looked around.

I'm looking for a zoomie for a friend and this seems to fit the bill. He wants 18650 and bright. Also, it's from a name we can sort of trust (seriously.. no pun intended, haha). Hopefully the dud is a rare event and not the result of cheap manufacturing. I always wonder if these zoomie lights sell enough to command the same level of workmanship other popular budget lights are given or if they're too gimmicky for that.

Only difference with a zoomie is the front lens and the screw that moves it back and forward. The rest of the flashlight is about the same as for a non-zoomie.

I have the TrustFire Z3 and the UltraOK 7W WS-Q5.

I bought both from ebay seller "cyberport888" (Z3 listed as Z13)

To compare:

UltraOK 7W WS-Q5

- has far brighter and more narrow throw

- white light

- 3 modes (hi/low/strobe)

- most compact zoomable 18650 Q5 flashlight I know of

- tailstands

- a killer for the money

Could not find it from cyberport888 anymore, here is it for $9.99 from topofking:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zoomable-7W-7-Watt-CREE-LED-Flashlight-Torch-18650-V5-/110719905504?pt=US_Flashlights&hash=item19c76baee0

TrustFire Z3 (XM-L T6)

- brighter and wider flood, but not by a wide margin.

- blueish tint

- 5 modes (hi/medium/low/strobe/SOS)

- slightly bigger and heavier, feels sturdier, more well built and the turning zoom feels solid

- uses 18650 with adaptor tube (diameter is 22 mm, could probably take a 22650 battery. A 22600 would probably also fit, the springs inside the torch seem to be able to compensate for the shorter length)

- tailstands, but not 100% level as switch protrudes slightly

http://www.ebay.com/itm/350488841041?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

To summarize: Both lights have their pros and cons, but the differences are quite minor. Considering the Trustfire Z3 cost me about 3x as much as the UltraOK, the UltraOK is giving a lot more value for the money. That said, now that I have it, the Z3 is now my preferred bicycle light because of the wider/brighter flood.

First post, hope this helps. :)

Welcome to BLF! :)

Can you give us links to UltraOK?

Viktor

Sure, couldn't find it from cyberport888 anymore, but this is the exact same torch from topofking for $9.99

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zoomable-7W-7-Watt-CREE-LED-Flashlight-Torch-18650-V5-/110719905504?pt=US_Flashlights&hash=item19c76baee0

Also updated my post above with links. :)

It's a likeable zoomie but the internals are very poor. The pill is hollow drilled through aluminium only. A bit underdriven also, a Q3 -Q5 low bin emitter, bad transmittance lens and not very wide flood. The switch is also press fit.

Hestinking should to be improved. Rough instructions here.

A better lens would be awesome but i have not find any suitables around. Lens is o-ringless and usually rattlle (did on 2 or my samples).

great comparison, thank you.

Now, how hard will it be to mod a neutral emitter into this Trustfire Z3, anyone?

Or you can get it with the clip going the other direction :-)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/7W-CREE-LED-Flashlight-Torch-Zoom-ZOOMABLE-7-Watt-VS03-/120730064197?pt=US_Flashlights&hash=item1c1c129545

Isn't the RC-C8 well thought of, then? Been on my future-purchase list for a while now, and much cheaper than the Z3: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/romisen-rc-c8-cree-q5-wc-3-mode-210-lumen-convex-lens-led-flashlight-1-18650-2-cr123a-3-aaa-55750

Did I miss an unfavourable review?

I just ordered the Trustfire XM-L T6 Z3 (that the above post is about), with two 18650 batteries, AC charger, car charger, tube for 18650 battery, and a holder for 3 AAA batteries, for $37.33 US. The only bad part is that the batteries are Ultrafire, instead of Trustfire. I think most people think that Trustfire batteries are better. But at the very least, I have the two chargers and an extra battery.

BTW, here is the link for that package.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zoom-In-Out-1000-LM-CREE-XM-L-T6-LED-Aluminum-Flashlight-Torch-2x18650-Charger-/120785628894

I'll post a review, when mine comes in (between 3/2 and 3/14).