Gearbest selling fraudulent AWT batteries

[cajampa]

@brad

@cajampa

@brad

It looks like Gearbest is selling fake AWT batteries, and doing it knowingly.

Yes, but you could also say that Gearbest are selling the Samsung 25R for much cheaper than the premium price that the AWT 2600mha 40A are charging for them.

At least Gearbest are honest about their dishonesty when called up on it, they readily confess about that the product are NOT authentic. And when asked about it they confirm with product are authentic like there Samsung cells for example.

That something i would like more sellers adopt, that means if you are a stupid consumer that don’t read the fine print you are only cheating yourself, like in the well known Ultrafire cells case, where a tiny bit of research will show them to be total crap.

Or you could just say that Gearbest is knowingly selling fake AWT batteries, it seems that when called on it, instead of ending the practice, they merely added the word “style” which doesn’t help most purchasers who see the AWT battery photo and receive what appears to be an AWT battery.

Right now, on this thread, my interest is in learning more about Gearbest, not all the other diversions.

And you could say that the AWT 2600mha 40A battery is an fake Samsung INR18650-25R battery for several times the cost And you are just trying to troll us so we stop talking about it.

[cajampa]

@brad

@cajampa

@brad

Why are you so opposed to the idea that Gearbest is selling AWT batteries that AWT says are not theirs?

Why are you working so to avoid the thread topic?

No one is opposed to this at all, I have also raised the issue before this tread , it is just that this have already been discussed in the HKJ battery request thread for example & are already known, even gearbest are confessing on there own sales page to it, so it is not like they are hiding it.

The question is why are you working so hard to keep us from discussion AWT’s questionable behavior?

Look at the thread topic, it is a very precise topic, and where has Gearbest confessed anything? They are selling fake AWT batteries.

Read Gearbest own Customer Questions & Answers on the sales page if you are so interested in this topic.
http://www.gearbest.com/batteries/pp_178120.html

There they openly confess to this.

[brad]

That sounds worthy of a thread, but on this thread, some of us are trying to learn about Gearbest, especially since there are so many negative threads about Gearbest.

We are trying to figure out the credibility of Gearbest, and this was a good thread for that, until the hijacking efforts started.

But thanks for the name calling and personal attack, as I try to stay with the original thread topic.

[DanielM]

Gearbest really has some die-hard fans around here, they keep diverting the focus away. I guess some people’s backbone (if any) is pretty flexible at the sight of some measly dollars.

[gaston01]

@cajampa

I have mentioned the 25R several times in this thread.

And this is a budget forum and i just want to point out that speaking of Gearbest, they don’t have the AWT 2600mha 40A only the fake “style” version.

But they do have the “Samsung INR18650-25R 2500mha for $3.72”:http://www.gearbest.com/batteries/pp_187045.html

And if someone want the Authentic Aweite AWT 2600mha 40A they can buy them from Fasttech for $9.89

EDIT I just realized that the Fake AWT style gearbest batteries cost more (from the OP link $7.91/2=$3.96 for one) than the real Samsung 25R
That is crazy it cost the fakers more(or they charge more at least) to make a faked crap version of a rewrapped cells than buying the original cell.

Hi

This Samsung 25R are fake too?

Thanks

[cajampa]

@gaston01

@cajampa

I have mentioned the 25R several times in this thread.

And this is a budget forum and i just want to point out that speaking of Gearbest, they don’t have the AWT 2600mha 40A only the fake “style” version.

But they do have the “Samsung INR18650-25R 2500mha for $3.72”:http://www.gearbest.com/batteries/pp_187045.html

And if someone want the Authentic Aweite AWT 2600mha 40A they can buy them from Fasttech for $9.89

EDIT I just realized that the Fake AWT style gearbest batteries cost more (from the OP link $7.91/2=$3.96 for one) than the real Samsung 25R
That is crazy it cost the fakers more(or they charge more at least) to make a faked crap version of a rewrapped cells than buying the original cell.

Hi

This Samsung 25R are fake too?

Thanks

As far as we know Gearbest appears to be selling genuine Samsung cells.

They haven’t been any evidence that they are fake so far & they are claiming them to be original Samsung cells, that is all we know. If that would change i am sure we @ BLF will be one of the first to take notice of it, so i am not worried. When that happen the word will get out quickly, but hopefully they are genuine & will continue to be so.

[brad]

They are selling fake AWT batteries, that might be Samsung batteries, which isn’t the issue at hand.

Why call them AWT batteries and use the fake AWT label? Some of us here are trying to learn if Gearbest is trustworthy for us to use as a retailer for many things, you don’t seem interested in us getting to the bottom of that concern.

[cajampa]

LOL no the fake AWT “style” batteries is NOT any Samsung batteries. It is the authentic AWT batteries that all evidence point to are Samsung batteries.

The fake AWT “style” is probably just some crap Ultrafire with an AWT label on it.

[brad]

I don’t care about the batteries, my interest is in Gearbest.

None of my dealings with Gearbest involves batteries, and I have no interest in AWT, but I am interested in Gearbest as a retailer in general, and this thread is about Gearbest.

[cajampa]

If you don’t like Gearbest then don’t use them, it is them same with all these cheap seller online some products are crap some are good, you just have to learn how to know how to find the good deals available, and that is why many of us are here at BLF to learn just that

[brad]

You don’t understand, I am trying to learn about Gearbest from this thread, that is why it is annoying that the original topic of Gearbest and it’s honesty in it’s selling, keeps getting hijacked, and diverted.

[brad]

These Gearbest customers seem unhappy with Gearbest.

!!

[cajampa]

And when you get burned from bad products from internet retailers, you always have paypal protection if you can’t work it out with the seller.
Sooner or later we will all run in to it, but it is no big deal your handle it & move on.

It comes with the territory & is nothing to get upset about. And if paypal doesn’t agree with you there is always credit card charge back.

[hank]

brad, if you read the posts by Tom E. and Old Lumens above and in several other topics, and search a bit, I think you’ll discover that one single new topic isn’t going to give you the clear bright line yes or no answer you seem to desire.

It’s more complicated than that.

This may help: NameBright - Coming Soon

As the number of items
originating from new sources
increases, well intentioned but unaware and
unsuspecting suppliers can find themselves
unknowingly purchasing and using substandard
or counterfeit raw materials or parts.

Nobody who’s read, say, the counterfeit S2+ thread, or any of the other threads, thinks the suppliers we have here are unaware and unsuspecting.
Some of them have some employees who are are well intentioned, and some of them have buyers they’ve fired after people here caught fakes, and the support desks are a whole different universe entirely.

Look at some of the pictures in that PDF and think, the next time you’re downwind of a big industrial power plant or a large commercial aircraft, that they too are riddled with counterfeit parts.

It’s a constant worldwide effort to detect and correct a huge amount of fraud.

You won’t get one bright shining perfect supplier.

Well, except maybe … but I won’t name names. We all know who we can trust, and who we consider part of the lottery.

And we gamble, yes we do.

[brad]

There is also nothing wrong with this thread topic about AWT batteries and Gearbest.

Give it a rest, and there is no reason to block this thread.

[cajampa]

Gamble is a very good description on what you do when you try to buy cheap stuff online, but unlike normal gambling you can raise your odds of not losing a lot by doing research before buying. But it is almost impossible to be 100% sure of anything in an industry with so many middle men. If you want 100% assurances of anything you have buy big numbers directly from manufacturers & oversee the production your self

Otherwise on some level it is mostly a gamble, fortunately for us paypal has rigged the game in the buyers favor, and that is why many sellers hate paypal with an passion.

[cajampa]

@brad

There is also nothing wrong with this thread topic about AWT batteries and Gearbest.

Give it a rest, and there is no reason to block this thread.

I though you didn’t care about AWT batteries……

What hank & i are talking about IS gearbest & other internet sellers like them.

[brad]

What is with you guys and the hostility, the thread is about Gearbest, not AWT or batteries in general, it is about whether we can trust buying from Gearbest.

You seem to be taking this entirely too personal, and getting too personal, let us discuss Gearbest.

[THAO916]

Imo thread should be closed.

OP’s question has been proven that GB sells “AWT” style batteries and are not the real thing.

We can all agree that GB is a hit or miss with service and that includes the majority of the other overseas vendors.

A dedicated thread discussing the legitimacy of AWT manufacturing their own cells should be made to further discuss that issue. It’ll help prevent clogging up review threads n such.

That’s my 2 cents.

[light_junkie]

post was about Herbert selling fraudulent AWT batteries, why all the contempt for AWT and Grace who neve re came on here spamming and only posted because I asked her to,and what if they are rewrapps?at worst case you get a good battery I don’t see anyone attacking efest just AWT and Grace did do what very few chinese sellers do she sent her batteries right to HKJ to get tested ,how many chinese manufacturers do you know doing that?I joined this forum because of the freindly attitude of the memebers who refrained from personal attacks and belittling people wow I guess I was wrong?