[Group Buy Interest Poll] Tiny EDC keychain light done right - BLF/Sofirn-style!

Interested!

Interested in 1 or 2 pcs depending on price.
Design suggestion: aggressive knurling for better grip and twisty action.
Thank you!

edit: I’m ok with sealed battery BUT would appreciate if it was somehow serviceable/replaceable to replace it if/when performance drops consistently or fails.

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Quantity I would buy: 1-5 depending on how it comes out

Suggestions
Battery: Replaceable with tools - I don’t want it falling apart in my pocket, but I don’t want it to be a disposable item.
Modes: Group 1 only (Moonlight first - must be able to switch off again without cycling through med & high!) will be sufficient, don’t make compromises elsewhere to add extra modes).
Dimensions: Tiny

I didn’t say how many, I’m interested in 2 depending on colors (looking for black and hard-anodized raw silver aluminum as their c01s).

Agro Suggestions in keeping the spirit of this projects are appreciated, thanks! It’s good to know of options that can make the light smaller. Beam profile is relevant too, are there beamshots?

I actually quite like the beam profile from the C01S, as described in my first impressions .

chenko Ample knurling requested. :slight_smile: I have expressed the same wishes to Sofirn about the battery too.

nowonmai First Group has been stated to start low, and other groups/modes will be added only if they do not compromise simplicity, cost, and size. Your wishes are right in line with the project goals.

tacocowboy I have also requested a clear/raw anodized option. I do hope they offer this!

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Hard type 3 anodizing (even though it only comes in black) would be welcome for a keychain/pocket light that will get a lot of banging around.

The width of the spill is nice, though the small square hotspot and its sharp cutoff are, as you put it… “interesting”. haha

hank I have requested Hard Type III anodizing to Sofirn. Do you know if the C01S has this? Because I noticed some small scratches developing on some corners after just one day of being on a keychain which gives me concerns about the durability of the anodized color as noted here .

Interested. High mode that lasts for at least an hour is more useful than maximum output. If I need brightness this light on turbo won’t suffice anyway.

Any updates?

I would be very interested in this light if you do the following

I will buy 10-20 pieces of this light if

1. Fully potted light like the C01

2. Use nichia C 4000k or Samsung LH351D high CRI LED 5000k

3. Removable battery and NOT build in battrey

4. 2 way pocket clip

5. Copper and Titanium and brass version

6. NO more than 10$

7. tail-stand

8. keychain hole

9. No PWM

10. Very small

Barry will push to have this be the first project after Chinese New Year.

Also, there is a proposal to have different middle brightnesses for the two groups: eg. Group 1: 1LM - 15LM - 160LM; Group2: 160LM - 50LM - 1LM

This would have the dual benefit of offering a higher middle brightness for those who want it, or want a lower “high” with longer runtime, all while keeping the user interface simple. I like it.

Hugh Johnson A higher middle brightness might satisfy your request, and you can keep the High mode for very brief “turbo” use. I think that’s quite a useful format.

Nichia Of course it will be very small and have a keychain hole, though I doubt your full list will make the final cut. eg. pocket clip doesn’t make much sense on a keychain light, and exotic materials will cost more than 10USD, though Barry did indicate that can be an option for an additional cost.

To me, the Olight i1R 2 EOS is nearly perfect except for two points: the emitter is too cold, and the battery is not replaceable. If this project addresses those while maintaining the other advantages, I will consider it a success. Raw/clear anodization would be the icing on the cake.

Thanks! All the points you made sound good to me

In such a small twisty I think three modes on the way up and three modes on the way down is overly optimistic. you’ve got to keep the o-ring from getting exposed when it’s loosened enough to be securely off. There’s only so much room for travel in the threads. Apparently part of the reason olight made their new 2 model so it does not fully come apart is because people were losing the head while it was attached to keys and such. As in unscrewing itself and falling off. I find that hard to believe but I don’t have mine hanging next to keys. I have mine hanging on a loop of paracord from a belt loop high in a front pocket. If they can’t make three modes then a 5/150 would be good. But it’s got to be warmer than Olight i1r. The i1r2 is too cool. And has less throw which is noticeable at anything beyond 10 ft mostly because of a much wider beam pattern. I prefer the i1r over the i1r2.

It’s no problem because of the different types of twisties. Olight uses a mechanical twist, where modes are selected by the rotational position. This project is likely to use an electronic twisty switch like the C01S, where the mode changes are made by making/breaking contact, similar to e-switches.

My one concern is that the operation must be flawless, and not exhibit flakiness noticed with the C01S as described here: How solid is the twist operation of your C01S (or variant)?

Actually I really love the wide beam of the i1R 2. I think it makes a lot of sense for a keychain light. I don’t find the throw bad, only slightly less, which doesn’t make any practical difference in my opinion. I just wish they didn’t choose such a cold LED. The i3E’s color temperature looks much nicer.

Id be interested. Is it 12g with the battery or empty?

great idea!

That weight target is with the battery for an aluminum version. Other materials will be heavier. Also note the battery, likely a 10180, would come included.

phouton, perfect!

I’ve been carrying an Olight i1E 2 EOS for the past few weeks on my keychain and it is exactly as phouton mentions. I love the size, the lumens and the recharging port under the head and not with a rubber plug. I’ve no idea what anodizing it has, but I don’t mind the scratches mine has received after living in my pockets for a few weeks.

If the battery were replaceable and if it had a warmer tint, I’d like it even more and would grab a few more for jacket pockets and family members.

Let’s hope Sofirn can make one that solves Olight’s drawbacks.