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Sofirn (Barry0892
) has plans to make a USB-rechargeable tiny keychain light, and BLF members have the opportunity to influence its design to get it just right!
Preliminary suggested details:
Please go ahead and:
You may find it helpful to use/quote the response template in the second post.
Have fun!
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NOTE 1: I am not associated with Sofirn in any way. I contacted Sofirn to ask if they would be interested in making an improved keychain light design based on the C01S. Currently, it can be difficult to recommend existing keychain lights due to concerns about quality, design choices, or high prices. Happily, Barry0892
indicated that Sofirn has such plans, which motivated this thread to gauge interest and get BLF involvement.
NOTE 2: Naturally, opinions and needs will vary, so I think it is crucial to have a clear focus on what are the goals of a given design, and perhaps more importantly, what are not the goals.
The following is my personal philosophy on what makes a good keychain light (subject to change ).
GOAL: To have a dependable and useful light present for unexpected momentary needs, while being convenient and unnoticeable the rest of the time.
Non-priorities: highest lumens, longest runtimes, ideal color temperature or tint, exotic materials
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I fully realize everyone has different goals and priorities, especially on BLF. This will not replace a AAA or 18650 light. The idea here is to have a neat little device that will be great for 80% of people, and which would probably be sufficient in 80% of day-to-day casual needs for light. A well-optimized true EDC for the common folk.
Reserved.
If it were a clicky instead of a twisty, I would be interested.
(But I know that's not going to happen.)
I hope it turns out well for everyone else.
… can we put a cap on the number of years to fruition?
Can you suggest a way to incorporate a clicky with the above constraints (particularly size)?
Needs LVP and REPLACEABLE BAT
No, a clicky would be much larger, so it won't appeal to most BLF members.
It's just what I really want.
Interested
If the battery the battery is included and is replaceable… Interested (voted).
I am interested if
1) The battery is easy to replace.
2) The modes are spaced for my needs. High runtime needs to be atleast 1 hour 30 minutes. Medium around 50 lumens or a little lower.
Would be very interested if it
In general in lights this small charging adds a lot to the size and if it’s micro USB I’d prefer to not have it at all.
The problem I find with lights of this type is that they’re unusable for practical use. If the high mode lasts for 30 minutes, its useless for me. Then the medium mode is so low that its as good as not having a light at all. The high and medium modes are important to me.
I hope this light is the first to change the mode spacing.
Clickies are large …but tail e-switch (UF-10 style) would add roughly 5 mm to the length without affecting diameter.
18650S style would carry even smaller penalty but would require a custom MCPCB and therefore limit LED swappability,
Clickies are large …but tail e-switch (UF-10 style) would add roughly 5 mm to the length without affecting diameter.
18650S style would carry even smaller penalty but would require a custom MCPCB and therefore limit LED swappability,
A tail e-switch would work for me, but I don't know if most people would be interested.
There is no way high mode will last an hour or more on a 10180 battery. I was told the drive for 200 lumens on High is because 100 lumens is not enough to sell and BLF members push for more and more lumens. If you disagree, make your voice heard! If there are enough interested buyers maybe it could change…
Personally I think a High ~100LM and Low somewhere between 15-40LM would be good since there is also a moonlight for the really low mode. With such a configuration, Low would be very usable and offer a good amount of runtime, while still having High for bursts as needed, and having moonlight for really long minimal lighting.
I think having a useful middle brightness mode is the most important one to get right.
Clickies are large …but tail e-switch (UF-10 style) would add roughly 5 mm to the length without affecting diameter.
What is the value of having a tail e-switch? Where would the keyring go (I don’t like them off-centered)? Wouldn’t it add cost and self-drain issues?
I have my gripe with the SST-20 and this optics. None of my many C01S is in its original condition, so I do not intent to buy another one. Such a small light needs to have a larger, softer spot. IMO.