Have LED's Passed HID?

I read something a long time ago, it said something to the effect that LED tech would someday
pass HID tech…I forgot in what way… power? longlasting’ness? Brighter I suppose.
Has this happened yet?

Do you think this ad is legit? in regard to its power and throw? 100w and 1.5 miles

I like the applications; it says this:

_ Application:

Four wheel driving

Hunting

Farming

Camping

Boating

Home security
_
So this light is great for farming!!

Oh, here it is: http://www.ebay.com/itm/100W-12V-HID-Handheld-light-Camping-Hunting-Spotlight-Battery-Conversion-Clip-/191832800479?hash=item2caa203cdf:g:6fYAAOSw2ENW69eQ

it is long way for LED to overtake HID.
Mike

For handheld lights yes, for really really bright lights, then no.

In terms of efficiency yes, but for certain applications such as driving lights HID remains a cheaper and more compatible technology. Most manufacturers have made the jump to LED in higher end models, but the big downsides of the LED is designing individual optics for each model as well as a proper heatsink to keep it cool, which don’t come cheap at all.

For handheld lighting Leds have long surpassed hid.

This.

In some cases people are actually replacing factory-installed LED headlights with aftermarket HID options. The LEDs are all the rage and look fancy, but don’t have the same beam characteristics as the HID, and the HID power draw isn’t really noticed on a vehicle.

My handheld HID got far better thow that any LED light I had. Simple 70$ hid vs tm16gt or better throwers.
Mike

“The bulbs have been designed by Xenon exclusively for use with their parabolic reflectors providing extreme light penetration.”

“Bulb: H3 /6000K Xenon Bulb”

So an element has become self aware and is developing bulbs and parabolic reflectors now!!! Also having created the H3 automotive bulb standard!

:open_mouth:

(edit)…or is this just simple extraterrestrial technology again? Xenon | Ben 10 Wiki | Fandom

Definitely not for cars, stationary and general lightning. Some HIDs are still more efficient (sodium lamps), some provide light of better quality (metal halide lamps) than LEDs. While 70W for LED means large, very sensitive to heat LED array, which requires elaborate fixture design with either a massive radiator or active cooling, for HID it’s only a low-power, relatively simple lamp which can run on a robust and cheap magnetic ballast and doesn’t care about heat. And 70W or 35W is only a starting point for them, as HIDs go all the way to 1kW and their efficiency improves with more power.

To me, this is like asking if the Harrow has passed the Plow. They both do essentially the same thing (tilling the soil or beating back the darkness), they just meet similar mission objectives in different ways.

Or, for us motorheads, they’re running the same race (“Floor It, Turn Left”) on different tracks.

This is so true. I like my SD75, but it is just a little baby! And this is just a lowly 250 watt MH in a incan fixture.

+1 for the SD75 even in 2019 ;)

Which is this $70.00 HID light? :question:

Bingo.

I have two 70w sodium lights on one side of the building. They light a 200ft x 20 driveway mounted 18 feet up. They are there for security.

Changed them in 1997. They were on dusk to dawn up to 2014 and now 6 hours a day. Roughly 60-70,000 hours??

They consume about 150kw for about $38 for 12,000 lumens between them. Bulbs are 6 bucks.

LEDs are great, now their efficiency has surpassed sodium, but they have a bit to go to best the overall cost effectiveness of sodium.

For general flashlight use, LEDs have far surpassed HID in usefulness. LEDs are more durable, offer low power settings with no ramp-up time, and are much cheaper. They can also have just as much, if not more lumen output.

However, HIDs still useful for long-distance spotlight use.