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Output tested using Texas Ace Lumen Tube calibrated with Maukka lights at 2 seconds. Light quality measured using Sekonic C-800-U.

Kdlitker 3x SST-20 2700K J3 JA3 P60 no lens low 18 lumens 2872K 0.0016 DUV 96.4 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.35 83.9 R9 85.6 R12 94 Rf 101 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX18
Kdlitker 3x SST-20 2700K J3 JA3 P60 no lens mid 141 lumens 2929K 0.0004 DUV 95.1 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.38 81.0 R9 86.0 R12 92 Rf 103 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX18
Kdlitker SST-20 2700K J3 JA3 reflector P60 no lens Highest 378 lumens 2856K 0.0001 DUV 94.8 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.36 76.8 R9 86.4 R12 92 Rf 103 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX18
Kdlitker 3x SST-20 4000K K2 FD2 P60 no lens low 8 lumens 3828K 0.0028 DUV 96.3 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.78 90.6 R9 79.4 R12 94 Rf 101 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX18
Kdlitker 3x SST-20 4000K K2 FD2 P60 no lens M1 47 lumens 3838K 0.0030 DUV 94.8 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.77 86.7 R9 80.1 R12 94 Rf 101 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX18
Kdlitker 3x SST-20 4000K K2 FD2 P60 no lens M2 235 lumens 3839K 0.0030 DUV 94.5 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.77 85.3 R9 80.1 R12 93 Rf 102 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX18
Kdlitker 3x SST-20 4000K K2 FD2 P60 no lens Highest 753 lumens 3794K 0.0022 DUV 94.8 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 0.76 85.8 R9 81.0 R12 93 Rf 102 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX18
Kdlitker 3x SST-20 5000K LF DD P60 no lens low 9 lumens 4575K 0.0103 DUV 68.0 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 1.00 -34.4 R9 28.5 R12 69 Rf 92 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX18
Kdlitker 3x SST-20 5000K LF DD P60 no lens M1 63 lumens 4624K 0.0087 DUV 67.4 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 1.00 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX18
Kdlitker 3x SST-20 5000K LF DD P60 no lens M2 312 lumens 4706K 0.0069 DUV 67.7 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 1.00 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX18
Kdlitker 3x SST-20 5000K LF DD P60 no lens Highest 1,018 lumens 4650K 0.0080 DUV 67.4 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 1.00 -33.9 R9 30.4 R12 67 Rf 93 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX18
Kdlitker Osram CW PUSTA1.EM 5700K J3 JA3 P60 no lens low 33 lumens 5338K 0.0058 DUV 82.1 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 1.00 9.6 R9 66.2 R12 82 Rf 98 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX18
Kdlitker Osram CW PUSTA1.EM 5700K J3 JA3 P60 no lens mid 234 lumens 5817K 0.0050 DUV 81.4 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 1.00 8.9 R9 66.0 R12 80 Rf 98 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX18
Kdlitker Osram CW PUSTA1.EM 5700K J3 JA3 P60 no lens Highest 684 lumens 5902K 0.0044 DUV 81.6 CRI Blue light relative amplitude 1.00 9.0 R9 65.9 R12 80 Rf 98 Rg 2xVTC6 in Kdliker E6-EX18

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djozz - did you get them yet? I just received a pair in my order placed on 7/11. Will post pics in couple mins.

Ok, uploaded. Couple different views:

Light ’er Tom! How’s she look?

Sorry, ran out of time - modding a Nitenumen TK35 with a SST-40 5000K, FET+1 running my Anduril version. Looks like it should do about 150 kcd on the SST-40 with dome.

Think I picked a light out though I could quickly mod with the XM-L3 - a modded JM07 with an OP reflector. Probably has a FET+1 driver. Might try a FT03 though - nice comparison with a SST-40, though the SST-40 will probably out throw the XM-L3.

So the SST-40 can pull bout 9 amps or so. Interesting to see what the 5A rated XM-L3 can pull.

Seem there isn’t that difference betwin SST20 JB4 BIN and JA3.
DUV of this one should be under the BBL instead of positive like your measure.
I think DUV will increase again with lens.
So they really sell the exact Bin declared? These others JA3 Bin tested ON E07 are below BBL

The FF JA3 bin is a bit rosier but it not a lot. Seems more likely to be different batch of the same bin

Do you find differents at very low current,greenish/yellow is absent on KD Leds?

Some updates on the XM-L3:

  • It looks decent, least to me. It's a CW, which I don't use often, but the beam isn't that bad.
  • In an old ThorFire JM07, 43 mm head diam, OP reflector, with a FET+1 setup, Noctigon MCPCB, 20 AWG LED wires, UCL/p lens, spring bypasses: on a GOLISI at 4.20V, measured 7.75 amps
  • Maukka calibrated lumens: 2010 at start, 1940 at 30 secs, and throw: 70 kcd
  • It's about matching the output of a SST-40 in lumens, but the SST-40 draws more amps (at ~9 amps), so...
  • The throw isn't bad - in comparison, the reflector diam matches a FT03 Mini that I tested at 95 kcd w/SST-40, but the FT03 Mini has a SMO reflector, and again, draws about 9 amps.

I'm pleasantly surprised - didn't expect it to be as good as an SST-40, but actually it's better because it basically matched it at lower amps. One noticeable advantage is there's less output drop over the first 30 secs.

Based on the yellow bubble design, I'd expect the 5000K-6000K beam to be uglier

Interesting. Thanks for the update!

Thanks for the numbers! Love to see an SST40 swapped in that host and compared apples to apples. Really curious of the sliced dome performance next :innocent:

Thanks for the information Tom, sounds good. I have 2 of the KD XM-L3’s in house but did not do the testing yet, hopefully this week.

I need some advice.
I am looking for a 17mm driver that will work with li ion and lithium batteries (16340 and cr123). No strobe, lo > hi, with or without memory, 1-4 modes.
I’ve already searched the kd, but I don’t know if and which one will be good.

Based on this by HKJ, a CR123 is roughly equivalent to 2xAA. So if you find a 2xAA boost driver that can go up to lithium ion voltages (4.2v) then you’re set.

This one looks reasonable but it has strobe.

This one has 4 mode groups but only says it goes up to 3.3v. I’d bet it would survive a 16340 though. Just a guess… If the battery voltage is more than the LED Vf, then it’ll probably be direct drive though.

Both those driver look like PAM2803 based drivers. The first one that gchart linked has a current limiting resistor (R270) so it should work with both types of batteries fine.
The second link, I think from the pics has a (R120) current limiting resistor, so it should work also but at a higher output with a Li-ion than the first one.
I’m just guessing from the pics and what I can see, someone that has one would need to confirm that or just buy a couple and let us know what you find out.

That first one doesn’t appear to be a PAM2803. Outside of the FET, the only non-passive component appears to be a single SOT23-6 which could be a PAM2803, but then what would control the modes (Low > High > Strobe)? I’m guessing it’s a dedicated flashlight driver chip.

As moderator007 said, second one does look like it could be a PAM2803 which is advertised to be safe up to 6.0 volts. Worth a shot (well, assuming you can spare the $3.57 if it happens to fry).

You probably are right gchart, without a mcu it would about have to be a dedicated led driver ic. Usually those have different value resistors for modes, one for each.
If the second one is a PAM2803 based driver the resistor value can probably be lowered to gain more output with a Li-ion or increased to lower the output.
The first one might benefit from a lower resistor also but now from gchart’s obversations, I’m not sure what ic its using. So it could go POOF! There’s only one way to find out. :smiley:

Thanks guys. Looks like the cf17 is probably the only option so I’ll give it a try.

I’ve used that driver before. Someone asked me about it a while back and here is what I had to say: I have used that driver. “I am pretty happy with it. The mode spacing is not ideal in my opinion. Low is about where I would like medium to be. You also have to wait a painfully long time before turning the light back on in order to avoid advancing to the next mode (like 5 seconds). The PWM is audible to me but I have pretty good ears so I’m not sure how noticeable it would be to most people. It is pretty noisy to me though. I don’t “see” it though. I have run it a fair bit on an 18350 and single Cr123s and had no issues thus far. I did not run it long on a single AA but I did some when outside of a host for testing the modes. It seemed to run great on it. For the price I am happy with it and don’t mind living with its quirks.

In short it does work with both small li-ions and cr123s. They have held up well for me but the memory and lack of lower low keep it from being a really good driver.
I hope that helps.

SST-40 N3 ZF 10000K - and it’s below BBL :slight_smile: Is 10KK still white?