...KICKSTARTER...???

mine is better and theirs is inferior because I designed it that way

Unbelievable deal…and I do mean UNBELIEVABLE. I will take two. My check from the Bank of Nigeria is in the mail, no need to cash it prior to shipping, as I am good for it. If I pay an extra $50 would you mind also shipping me two of your “patent pending” circular retention cord devices, otherwise called ‘wrist straps’ by your detractors?

By the way…“patent pending”, at least in the USA, means less than most people realise…simply means that a patent has been filed and awaits award (and I see nothing here that will pass US Paent Office): Deciding to Licence or Assign When Selling a Patent

I'm constantly surprised at the importance some people put on 'patent pending'. Now, if you actually have a patent, that's something else.

I'd be very interested to know what parts of the ZEROHOUR product are considered patentable. It sounds like their product is basically 'higher quality'...not so sure that's patentable.

ZeroHour Innovations is part of Prizm Lite LLC, they also apparently own xtardirect.com I see no patent applications for them. Perhaps they threw up patent pending to try and scare off people or dismiss their "copying".

True. “Patent Pending” label does provide some legal protection, but there does not seem to be much downside to just claiming this status, even if not true…no legal consequence (actual or just not enforced. I doubt, from the looks of this light, that they have much to protect.

good one………that kickstarter is “a day late and a dollar short”

Wow, thanks for the laugh. Did anyone read the comment?? How do people get suckered into this stuff? I like the guy who says he found it on Amazon for less than half price with free shipping to boot.

We said,“Free Worldwide Shipping”, We didn’t say Free Freight Charges!!!
Very nice.

Even though Selfbuilt’s reviews are usually genuine and very through, the price of $224.99 is way off the charts for what you get and not worth it in my opinion for a non-established brand name.
(for less cost i can find similar lights like this one: http://intl-outdoor.com/2usb-mobile-device-charger-318650-xml2-sideswitch-flashlight-p-741.html and get a ton more extra good 18650s for the money i saved, and do some mods to the lower-cost light to make it more versatile. This ZeroHour light almost reminds me of the ridiculous “Heider” light company trying to sell their knock-off $50+dollar Sipik SK68 copy by making a pretty website to try to awe the un-trained eye.

Spamming all the threads regarding the ZeroHour light from an account only created today makes you look like you have an agenda in my opinion.

After a little search with google l found that this racinghart blf member might actually be Aaron Son, cofounder of the zero hour flashlight, what a coincidence that his username and LinkedIn name match…

http://www.linkedin.com/in/racinghart

Thumbs down!!!

I'll buy this one:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-New-Version-Waterproof-Aluminum-Alloy-Cree-XM-L2-U2-LED-5-Modes-Dual-USB-Flashlight/2024701477.html

I'll be happy to compare it with a review sample, and I'd even try seeing if some parts/accessories are compatible. I figure the latter could be good for you...if they're compatible, people are still likely to buy your accessories & parts.

yes, as a matter of fact i am here with an agenda; the agenda to share information and knowledge with others who may have missed it since its on a different forum

just take it for what it is, someone said the flashlight was a scam and it wasn’t. period. i assure you =) not trying to start anything with you, just sharing the facts.

by the way, i have been a lurker on here for awhile but only felt the need to say something now that i came across the candlepowerforums thread and this thread seems to have a lot of uninformed members here.

i am here to answer any questions you guys may have

Are you the cofounder of zero hour flashlight???

Good find AlexGT. Google can do amazing things with finding information like that.

Wow, do you think selfbuild was aware that he was reviewing a shameless clone (shameless because they claim the idea to be new, and they did not just copy the idea but the whole design) from the intl-outdoor flashlight? He did not mention anything about that.

Thinking about it a bit further, these kickstarter guys of course did the project in corporation with the company that made the intl-outdoor light and had it all made for them by the same company, adding some shiny accessories.

Thinking about it a bit further again, this kickstarter project might as well be initiated by the chinese flashlight manufacturer, hiring some guys to do the project.

i assure you it is not what you think, again, you are making assumptions and you don’t know the story and how many actual months and years it took us from idea to production to finding the right manufacturers to contract. we have been in development and working with several manufacturers to get the zerohour done to specifications. unfortunately, previous manufacturers we no longer dealt with and dropped are responsible for the clones and substitute products you will continue to see hit the market. i am the co-founder of zerohour and wished i could of spoke more about the project months before we planned to crowdfund, but lets be quite frank, a lot of you made this forum feel un-welcomed to us with knee-jerk assumptions about our company and products. i couldn’t believe it… or found it necessary to join at that time. and now that the product is on the market and we are confident that the demand is here. i am now here to help answer any questions you may have. i just hope you guys can be a little more welcoming now that we have delivered a quality product and proved we are not a scam.

Are your parts and accessories compatible with the lights you're calling clones and substitute products? At this point I don't care who ripped off who, but I might be interested in some of your parts and accessories.

Ok - send me one of “these” lights, and i will do a full review for BLF and compare it to two other similar lights i have like this, and give a full honest opinion based on other experience i have with various USB portable self-contained chargers i have and used, along with the lights i currently have used with built-in USB charging similar to your light.

i am not sure if it fits the other lights, i doubt they have our precise specifications and thread pattern. but if you would you like to purchase a few of our accessories at sample pricing for testing please send me a message or email me at aaron@zerohourxd.com

We are an internet forum and like to discuss things that we find remarkable. Confronted with only part of the story we like to discuss what is behind it. Judged from how you answered the questions about originality asked on the Kickstarter site and how you promoted the product here without introducing yourself, it is only logical that we are suspicious of how original your ideas and designs are.

That said, I appreciate that you try to explain now how things really went, and welcome you to BLF as a flashlight enthousiast :-)