Need advice on a Cheap around 20$ Light for work

ohaya, good to know it is bright. That’s the 5-mode version of the one I linked.
Not sure about a 5-mode twisty. Does it have mode memory of any kind?
Also, can it be one-hand operated? It looks like it should be easy to do, but better to confirm with an owner.

Hi,

I still consider myself to kind of new (despite # of posts :laughing:, so don’t usually care much about memory (or tint), but I just tested the one I have, and it looks like it has NEXT mode memory, i.e., I turned it off when in high mode, and waited, and when I turned it on again, it came on in medium mode.

I’m probably not the best person to ask about one-handed operation (bad hands :(), but the light is rather wide (stubby) so a person with “normal” hands could operate it one-handed. I can do it, but not too easily. However, I’d note that the one I have, from FT, has very little knurling on it…. only a small strip kind of at the middle of the body.

The head has concentric grooves around it, probably to try to improve dissipating heat (ala “fins”), which is counter-productive from a grip/one-handed standpoint.

+1
it’s similar to xtar wk1.

an alternative with only 1 mode and even cheaper.
www.fasttech.com/products/1601/10004109/1358901-uniquefire-uf-k21-cree-xm-l-u2-1-mode-700-lumen-leu

other option is this one
www.fasttech.com/products/1601/10004211/1359000-authentic-ultrafire-cree-xm-l-t6-5-mode-600-lumen-

tactical style with forward clicky for momentary on…

Ohh, that’s a nice option for law enforcement. Good find!

Welcome to BLF nlp.

I am a newbie for the west coast. I would suggest you look at lights with 18650 batteries (eqivalent to two 123a batteries). There are more options in lights for you and within the $20 range.

Husgby P2 ....about 18$ at aurabuy and $15 at DX ,

well built ,nice knurling,sharp attack bezel.decent tint ,decent throw and good beam pattern,High ,low .strobe .Tough clip..

It can be used as a AA..a 14500 or with a body piece taken out with a cr123 or a rcr16340.The very versatile Husgby P2 :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5OyuH6Zavg

https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/17534

http://m.dealextreme.com/p/hugsby-p2-cree-q5-wc-190-lumen-led-flashlight-1-aa-1-14500-32876

http://www.aurabuy.com/p2-cree-q5-wc-3-mode-190-lumen-convex-lens-white-led-flashlight-1-aa-1-14500.html

Nice thanks for all the suggestions. Forgot to mention I would like a Clicky. Since it’s alot faster to put on and off with just 1 hand.

Will look to all the suggestions and post back as I just got up after a night shift. Theres almost too much to choose from

Ok been looking for a couple of mins. Really nice options.

https://www.fasttech.com/p/1300400

That seemed like a good choice, damn shame theres not a clicky model.

The crelant I am not sure about the clip. Looks a bit flimsy. Could work if i added a piece of tape or maybe glued it on the light just to be sure
http://www.md-lightsource.com/Crelant-V31-A-450-Lumen-XML-U3-pocket-light-V31A.htm

This one is also nice but seems a bit on the big side
http://m.dealextreme.com/p/hugsby-p2-cree-q5-wc-190-lumen-led-flashlight-1-aa-1-14500-32876

I really like those two.

http://www.fasttech.com/products/1601/10004131/1306401-sunwayman-r10r-cree-xp-g2-r5-2-mode-205-lumen-comp

and

http://www.fasttech.com/products/1601/10004211/1359000-authentic-ultrafire-cree-xm-l-t6-5-mode-600-lumen-

As far as Lumens go; one says 205 and the other 600. Is a the second one boosted on the numbers ? Doest the quality of the light affect those numbers ? Meaning if the first one is better quality , will the 205 seem to be as good as the 600 ?

The SWM R10R is probably right on with the lumens, it might even do better than that.
The UltraFire is probably between 400 and 500 lumens. The 600 number is likely an inflated ‘emitter lumens’ number, and doesn’t factor in losses.
I think one of the last two are good fits. The Crelant should be good, but you might be right about the clip, doesn’t wrap around too far. Might just be the angle though.
Edit: the SWM clip doesn’t look overly secure either. The UF clip seems to wrap around the most.

Lumens can be a little misleading, a bit like torque is with cars.

As the general rule more is better, but that doesn’t tell the whole story.

The Sunwayman uses an XP-G2 emitter, this is a small emitter and will offer relatively good throw for a small reflector.

The other light uses an XM-L emitter, this is physically much larger than an XP-G2, so it put out more light, but it will generally throw less far for the same size reflector.

So the extra lumens of the XM-L mean it’ll have a bigger hot spot and brighter spill rather than a massively more intensive output, i.e. it’ll illuminate with wider area brighter.

Something else to consider is many budget brands lie about output, I suspect (but don’t know for sure) that the Ultrafire is lieing about it’s output and is probably nearer 400 lumens than 600.

Ordered the last 2. Will report when I get the order.

Might also need to check for a main light because the one my departmenr issues is really crapy( pelican m6) If you guys have a suggestion to replace that I would also be interested (if possible similar size or one with a belt holster around the same size)

http://www.amazon.com/Pelcian-M6-2330-LED-Flashlight/dp/B000P1HV74/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1370342166&sr=8-3&keywords=pelican+m6

This is what we have. Kind of pricy for the poor light it has. I’ve seen some collegues with 10$ lights with twice the punch in them. But I have to admit it’s prety sturdy to abuse.

Does it need to be CR123a again?

Yes sory I tought I mentionned that we only have cr123a batteries available from the department in my first post but I forgot to add that info on my last post. Also a clicky is a must (when using firearm etc…)

Thank you

Do you have a budget in mind?

Personally I still rather like the p60 format of lights, despite there relative poor thermal management (it really isn’t all that bad).

On this note I’d recommend a Solarforce L2 host.

If you are on a budget then the L2M is the cheapest and very very nice in it’s own right.

Or for more money you can have the L2P or L2T. They are all very similar just slightly different finishes and you can have a cigar grip on the L2T.

This is the L2M:

It’s shorter than a Mini Maglite but wider.

You can get a forward clicky switch (some come with them, some with a reverse clicky) if you need momentary. And it’s easy to swap on a new tailcap & switch. You can also buy clips if you need one.

The biggest advantage of this system is the “drop-in” LED module. The metal torch is just a tube and you buy the LED to drop into it. It’s very easy and quick. This means you can upgrade easily, or indeed if you fried the drop in you could even carry a spare drop in with you.

This one works very well on 2xCR123a:

You can get it as a single mode, 3 mode or 5 mode module, depending on what you need.

If you want to spend more money I’d take a look at Klarus, very high quality lights and very much aimed at a tactical use.

http://www.klaruslight.com/plist_show.php?id=59&lge=en
http://www.klaruslight.com/plist_show.php?id=2&lge=en
http://www.klaruslight.com/plist_show.php?id=50&lge=en

seems interesting. As I understand I would need to order both parts and put them together since the first one is just the tube withtout the light ?

As for price, I would like to keep it low since in case I loose of break it, i will pay it.

My standard will not be hard to beat im prety sure even with 10$ lights so I am not concerned about it (The Pelican reall sucks…)

In an ideal world it would fith in my pelican holster, if not i would need to find one to switch on my duty belt.

there are options for ready to use one.
just need to read the description carefully as the page layout and information presentation are easily misread or even not read at all…

Essentially yes. With a p60 you buy the host (the metal tube & switch) and you also need to buy the drop in (the driver & LED module).

You can sometimes buy combined packages that have both, but they aren’t always the best deals.

Solarforce offer good quality hosts at very good money. There are cheaper ones, but they aren’t as good and you really don’t save much.

There are lots of p60 drop ins available. All you need to do is get one that supports 6v if you want to run 2xCR123a batteries.

There are other options above and beyond the p60 format. But I personally like the p60’s size and extreme versatility.

They’re really hard to beat. I have 5 L2Ps and an P1D for the wife. Great lights, tough and well made. The assembly process is no more than dropping in a battery, just from the other end. Unscrew the head, drop in the P-60 module, screw the head back on. Unscrew the tailcap, drop in your cell/cells, screw it back on and you’re done. Can’t get much simpler than that.

I personally like the L2P as it’s clicky is inside the rim of the tail cap, making for a safer option and it tailstands. Watch for the ones with the clicky protruding from the tailcap, they get turned on accidentally much easier. The L2P is usually around $17 US, and a nice drop-in can be had for around $8-10 US. Cells are available to you in the CR123 format, they’re also readily available in 18650 rechargeables. The latter should have longer runtimes in the higher capacity (3400mAh) cells. Also pretty easy to carry a spare 18650, you’d be able to go all night in an rescue type situation with the 2 cells and be making 700-800 lumens.

Edit: By the way, the “tube” you buy without the drop-in led assembly is the complete light, sans the light engine. So it will be the tail cap w/clicky switch, battery tube, head w/lens. Good deal actually, comparable to big name lights without the price tag.

Thank you for the input. Is the Solarforce only available from their website ? Didnt try to order yet to see if they shipped to Canada

So woul be either the L2M suggested above or something like this ?
http://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=FB&s=7&id=417
or
http://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=FB&s=7&id=264 (this one is a bit long at 140mm. Would be almost 35mm longer than my current one)

With this in it ?
http://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=RB&s=40&id=491

Sory for all the questions… Lights arent my cup of tea :wink:

That L2P host has the reverse Clicky (press and click to turn on, no momentary on option), you might prefer the forward clicky (press lightly for momentary on, press full with click for stay on).
http://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=FB&s=7&id=112

I’m not familiar with the various drop-ins, I’ll let someone else address those.
Edit: also, I believe they are sold through a few dealers as well, not sure about shipping to Canada, never bought one.