Hmm… I’m still not sure I like the 1504
My thoughts exactly, so I bought T20 and I will buy 1504 since it is THAT better (“T20 will be around 115kcd, and the 1405 will be over 330kcd”). I can always sell them for what I paid for or with a little loss.
From this pics it looks to me like it is built for 26650 cell!
nitro, could you maybe take a side by side pic with some known flashlight like C8 or something like that! thanks.
My advice is wait for the Uniquefire UF-1503 to become available somewhere, it is the shorty version of the UF-1406:
-the size is not too bulky, it feels just right
-it does not look ridiculous, like the 1504 (I'm still amazed that the 1405-shorty actually went into production :bigsmile: )
-the potential performance is way better than the UF-T20 (about double the throw, max. ~250kcd on a dedomed high bin XP-G2).
-it takes 18650 batteries (=always preferred IMO)
link: http://uniquefire.en.alibaba.com/product/60174209938-214406304/Uniquefire_UF_1503_high_quality_850nm_IR_uniquefire_illuminator_with_50mm_lens.html
Obviously it is designed for 26650 given the size but it can take 18650 if you use a spacer, like every flashlight.
BTW uniquefire has released an aspheric C8 uf-1505 This product is no longer available.
I had seen that too, it is probably more lightweight than the 1503, with a slightly smaller lens. That sounds like a winner, but why why why did they choose the ugliest light on the planet (=the C8) as the template?????
Aspheric C8 
I like it already, hunters will appreciate this, hope it will offer laser sharp beam 
do you think,there will be a mass production of zoomies or kinds like convoy with mtg2 or xhp?probably one lion isnt enough for any of this two leds.right?
That sounds ultra impressive. Do you have any beam shots outside? I often wonder how useful such lights are.
I have a 3amp XP-G2 domed zoomy and a de-domed XM-L2 Zuesray. The Zuesray pulls a lot more amps, but they throw about the same distance visually. But the big difference is, the beam on the Zuesray is much wider and so much more useful.
I’m sure de-doming the XP-G2 would make it throw a lot further. But in this instance I think it would make it quite a useless beam.
I don’t have any beamshots outside, but I’ll try to take one today in the garage of a dedomed XP-G2 in a T20 and a 1405, and a stock 1405 so people can see what kind of size difference we’re talking about with the hot spot. Maybe I should also include an SK98 for reference?
Edited to add: once you get past a few hundred meters is where the dedomed XP-G2 starts to become more useful than an XM-L2, however defocusing the XP-G2 slightly reduces the advantage of beam size for the XM-L2 at short range. These lights are more than just 2 positions, they’re 2 plus everything in between, not sure why people forget that.
That sounds like great compromise. The full light is currently available for $31.50.
I’m just worried that if I get that one, all i’ll be able to think about is “how much better would the 1504 have been?”
Pilotdog68, would you feel better about ordering the 1504 if I told you I would buy it from you if you can’t stand it?
Mm maybe.
I’m actually very interested to know what length of battery will fit in the 1504. If I can use my KK 26700, it’ll be worth the extra heft for the long runtimes.
Maybe Nitro can help with that?
Luckily I have tested that for you ;-) I had both modded with a 17mm direct driver ('NANJG92') and a dedomed XP-G2 R5 bin (not latest/greatest). The 1406-shorty does 235kcd, the 1405-shorty did 407kcd. So for 73% extra throw (that will appear less than 73% to our eyes btw), the 1405 is 60% heavier and 100%bigger (yes, the 1406 is build like a tank!).
Although usability is the last concern here at BLF :bigsmile: , the 1503 will fit nicely in a coat pocket while the 1503 will make you look silly and walk a bit out of alignment ;-)
Hmm the best thrower I have to compare that to is my Jacob A60 with dedomed XP-G2 S2 at 3amps. Any guess what that one would do? 80kcd maybe?
No, more, a C8 can do almost 100kcd already with a dedomed XP-G2. My guess is that your Jacob does 170kcd, if the led is accurately focussed.
Right now I’m leaning towards doing a 1503 with a dedomed XP-G2, AND a 1405 with a dedomed XP-L and one of RMM’s upcoming buck drivers.