Review (in future): Eagtac EagleTac SX25L3 MT-G2 review

EagleTac SX25L3 MT-G2

kreisl's Overall Rating: ★★★★

Summary:

Battery: 5.4-19V: 3x18650, or 6xCR123A
Switch: electronic side clicky (+ optional tail clicky)
Modes: 4 (+7 blinkies)
LED Type: MT-G2 P0, alternatively XM-L2 U2
Lens: glass
Tailstands: yes
Price Paid: 87.60€
From: NKON.nl
Date Ordered: 08/2013

Pros:

  • very bright, measured xxxx Fenix lumens
  • super nice tint
  • preselect level before turning on
  • very tactical with instant strobe & instant turbo
  • momentary activation
  • blinkies are hidden
  • great build quality and proven construction
  • nice price for a 2400lm premium light

Cons:

  • optional tail-cap switch has no advantage over the side switch
  • difficult to locate side switch in pitch darkness

Relative:

  • momentary activation not for signalling
  • head twisting more common with smaller lights
  • split ring works as limited anti-rolling device

ce they contain all essential and interesting info regarding the features and value of the product. The 10 URL's are probably more helpful for your purchase decision than this lengthy blablah review!

Official SX25L3 webpages:
  1. http://eagletac.com/html/sx25l3/index.html (SX25L3 intro), landing page, auto-gallery advertises the "versatile side switch" of the "powerful compact light" and the high efficiency of the "wide voltage current regulated circuit" and then gets stuck there (webpage error?), links to 5 product related pages[β]-[ζ], downloads[η]-[ι], series overview[κ], list of authorized dealers and resellers including international distributors and importers, serial number product registration form, warranty technical support form, general contact sheet, a.o.
  2. http://eagletac.com/html/sx25l3/specs.html (extensive specs sheet), typical for ET and totally unique in the industry, a full(!) webpage dedicated to the small print of the product, boasts with a plethora of detailed specification data, including exact measurements of beam profile, battery fitment, LED circuit, numerous runtime data for various battery configurations, 6 different ANSI lumen levels, carrying method, other features, contents for BASE and KIT packages, etc etc, plus extended footnotes. a must-read for everyone with serious interest in an EagleTac flashlight model.
  3. http://eagletac.com/html/sx25l3/features/output.html (beamshots), describes turbo boost technology and its duration, how ET measures ANSI FL-1 lumens output, what the RL effects of the LED tint choice are. includes outdoor beamshot to demonstrate tint difference, and white wall beam profiles of XM-L2 versus MT-G2 emitters to explain their projecting distance in practical use. remarks that the 5000K MT-G2 P0 tint is right in between CW and NW, the first EasyWhite LED array built on the newest CREE SC3 technology platform. aha, very well.
  4. http://eagletac.com/html/sx25l3/features/efficiency.html (circuit design), reports on real torture tests to guarantee electronic reliability and physical stability, rather long technical section detailing on the special circuit design and features, ultra-high efficiency, runtimes, absence of PWM. highly impressive page packed with gorgeous kind of info and too good to be passed on without quoting full passages from it, see discussion of driver
  5. http://eagletac.com/html/sx25l3/features/control.html (user interface), explains the essential operation features, nice textual presentation, a bit more wordy than the Quick Start Guide in the printed manual[ι]. very good.
  6. http://eagletac.com/html/sx25l3/features/details.html (nice features), is to make the reader aware that the ET engineers paid professional attention to every technical detail. points out over 10 specific design details arranged in 6 sections: Base & kit models, Innovative design, Highly customizable, Button switch and twisty head, Smart head design, Holster. well made page, informative and recommended reading. no bs for the sake of advertising, respect!
  7. http://eagletac.com/download/gallery/sx25l3std.zip (download pics), 8 JPEG's in 16:9 standard resolution, 800x450, 1.37MB download zip, 1.59MB unpacked, created by Adobe Photoshop CS5, file stamp 2013-06-15, typically employed by authorized dealers to fill in their product sales page
  8. http://eagletac.com/download/gallery/sx25l3hd.zip (download pics HD), 8 JPEG's in 16:9 Full HD resolution, 1920x1080, created by Adobe Photoshop CS5, file stamp 2013-06-15, in a 6.07MB download zip, unpacked 6.77MB, great for examining high quality close-ups of the product including reflector quality, LED centricity, glossiness of black anodization, knurling, white wall shots, battery compartment. nice service by the company to offer 1080p material for enjoyment and convenient sourcing
  9. http://eagletac.com/download/readme/sx25l3.pdf (download manual), clear and very short Quick Start Guide section with incredibly well-written, concise, basic usage instructions, more elaborate sections on battery safety precautions, flashlight maintenance, trouble shooting, battery care, and warranty. entire manual can be read, understood and finished in 1 minute
  10. http://eagletac.com/html/s_series/index.html (S-series overview), points out the very key feature of the other three S-series models: the slot load battery design of SX25A6, the duty flashlight character of SX25L2 and the SX25L2T being the Turbo head version of it, both with built-in rechargeable feature. page presents SX25L2 at the center of interest, maybe because this model was released first in the S-series and therefore represents the original spirit of the series best?

Whatever you would possibly want to know about the SX25L3 can be found on the above 10 official webpages or in the below 16 annotated references which contain even more textual and visual material than the already packed official webpages and downloada

The 10 URL's are probably more helpful for your purchase decision than this lengthy blablah review!

Relevant or noteworthy SX25L3 user references:
  1. 2013-06-14 shelm : Eagtac SX25L3 (3x18650, 2750lm), the first public info on the WWW, the longest related thread on CPF and still ongoing. sdf
  2. 2013-06-15 noboneshotdog : Hold onto your wallets. New Eagletac MT-G2 and XM-L2 lights, not the first but the longest BLF news thread on the new Eagtac releases. revolves around pricing, shipping, availability and that everbody is fond of it. some want to wait for test results from detailed reviews before they decide to buy.
  3. 2013-06-15 msitc : Produktankündigung: EagleTac SX25L3 mit 2750 LED-Lumen und MT-G2-LED, geman dealer announcing the product triggers lots of enthusiastic response from the German flashlight community making it the most successful thread by that author and thereby the highest anticipated flashlight of the season. potential buyers with simple general questions, first owner shares photos. very long thread with little specific info or test results.
  4. 2013-06-20 Nikos : Встречаем! EagleTac SX25L3, 265 posts and counting, already one of the more popular threads on fonaruska, tatopus the ET guru chimes in late,
  5. 2013-07-11 SBFlashlightGuy : Eagletac SX25L3 and Eagletac sx25L3 xm-L2 led, 2 sort of sneak preview clips following the purchase announcement clip and made shortly after receiving the lights from the postman. reviewer is apparently an Eagtac fan and a long time illuminationGear customer. while not much personal insight is shared, it is instructive to learn that the XM-L2 clip has so many views less than the MT-G2. viewers are much more interested in watching the new MT-G2 in action.
  6. 2013-07-14 LSX : Whats Next? and Which one will be brighter?, light-hearted discourse and recommendations in typical BLF manner, centering around powerful handheld 200$ flashlights and with some gravity towards the new MT-G2 SX25L3. the FF4 was the author's final choice oh well.
  7. 2013-07-16 delichoc45 : loupiotes de delichoc45, dfdf
  8. 2013-07-17 Lame Lancette : EAGLETAC SX25L3 by LameLancette, no spoken text, video presentation from an Italian dealer's webpage, unboxing of the MT-G2 BASE version, unscrews head and tailcap, shows double springiness of battery compartment, goes thru all modes including blinkies, makes sense to operate blinkies by twisting the body not the head, compares to XM-L2 NW head and beam, watch the white balance auto adjustment. torch looks very nice in his hands.
  9. 2013-07-17 msitc : Vorschau auf das kommende SX25L3-Review, dealer trying to keep the vibes up[3], good preview photos of the upcoming review[12], people tend to prefer the MT-G2 for its natural tint and lumens output/dimensions-ratio. thrower fans may look for dedicated large head throwers.
  10. 2013-07-17 msitc : Helle Taschenlampen@Night: EagleTac SX25L3 XM-L2 und SX25L3 MT-G2 P0, dealer's 2 short videos of the torch performance as part of his promotional clip series 'bright flashlights at night'. his video contributions would be somewhat helpful if 2 lights were competing against each other simultaneously on the shooting range. however as standalone beamshot video not very helpful also because of poorly chosen videocam settings. allows very limited qualitative comparison to other lights from the clip series with the same poor settings.
  11. 2013-07-19 Thunderhawk : Vergleich einer Eagletac SX25L3 mit G25C2 und T20C2, short gallery showing basic parts of the light, the mounting of color filters, tailstand with tailcap switch. some photos are in group with G25C2 and T20C2
  12. 2013-07-19 Thunderhawk : Beamshots Sx25L3 MT-G2 P0 / Zebralight 6330 / G25C2, 1 beamshot setting against a hedge outdoors at 10m distance. good for comparing tints of the 3 lights, best color rendition with the MT-G2.
  13. 2013-07-20 msitc : Review: EagleTac SX25L3 XM-L2 (1505 Lumen) u. EagleTac SX25L3 MT-G2 P0 (2750 Lumen), dealer's 4th SX25L3-thread omfg, promoting his newly stocked product in a photographic non-technical presentation for commercial purposes. text basically a translated recitation of manufacturer's specs from English into his native language. no tests or measurements except for 1 lux data point. nice product gallery if that's what you're drooling after, plus 3 beamshot settings which are helpful in a manual juxtaposition of similar beamshots. thread also contains group photos, some poor beamshot and tint comparison, rough calculations of theoretical current draw, watts, efficiency and low mode lumens.
  14. 2013-07-20 jojoselected : Eagtac Eagletac SX25L3 mit XM-L2 LED 58.000 Lux und MT-G2 2375 Lumen, superficial video presentation, ignorant of Tactical Group and the other activatable advanced features, Geman dealer jojo measures ~24000 lux for the MT-G2 and ~58000 lux for the XM-L2. note the tint difference in the beam pairing against the indoor wall. see also his beamshot comparison.
  15. 2013-07-21 Rafunzel : ET SX25L3 MT-G: persönliche Eindrücke, thread for sharing personal impressions, op measures same ceiling bounce as his other 2400lm triple XM-L flashlights ZL S6330 and DRY, short gallery of BASE version with GX25A3 and other group photos, only few owners find the neutralish tint not sufficiently coolish, much discussion about 2-handed operation vs 1-handed incl photos, comparison to EYE40 on paper.
  16. 2013-07-22 jost60 : SX25L3 Holster-Alternative?, several users agree that the Led Lenser M14 closed holster is a suitable alternative to the original open holster from the Eagtac KIT package.
  17. 2013-07-24 lampenfieber : EagleTac SX25L3 MT-G2 Beamshots, outdoor beamshot comparisons against Niteye EYE30 and Fenix TK75 at 4 different locations. good for comparing tints and spill areas.
  18. 2013-07-24 selfbuilt : a master of packing much pertinent info fluently into brief textual passages author manages to deliver concise yet complete description of physical build, size/weight comparison, good close-ups of key parts, emitter, KIT, standby drain, technical analysis of the 7 blinkies, compendious revision of the UI, this time very illustrative white wall shots (note the narrow bright spill plus high intensity hotspot). the brightness-runtime graphs reveal superior performance too. great must-read technical summary of potential issues and preliminary observations. review contains all relevant facts regarding technical tests, results and measurements. definitely worth reading through all posts in this active ongoing thread, also includes a well-made not very short video which explains the operation and accessories!
  19. 2013-08-05 Михаил-СПб : Сомнения насчет EagleTac SX25L3 на диоде MT-G2, ontopic discussion of current draw, LED lumens, watts, volts, CREE specs sheet and related theoretical technicalities of little interest if the folks had a Fenix calibrated integrating sphere as this writer. op drifts to trolling. a reference safe to skip.
  20. 2013-08-11 andreas0401 : Beamshotvergleich Eagletac SX25L3 MT-G2 P0, good outdoor beamshot comparison on highest and second highest brightness level against three other lights, ZebraLight S6330, Niteye EYE40, and Lupine Betty TLS. accompanying footage exists for S6330 and Betty TLS. includes quick presentation with nice rotating product GIF, group photo, emitter closeups, lux measurement.
  21. 2013-08-11 S D : EagleTac (ИглТэк) MX25L2 VS SX25L3. Сравнительный тест фонарей., dealer's attempt to compare SX25L3 MT-G2 and MX25L2 SST-90 beam at 2 outdoor settings. a not terribly successful attempt i would say erh haha.
  22. 2013-08-13 AngryDaddyBird : Which One and Why? Eagletac SX25L3, one of the many cpf threads in which boardies recommend the SX25L3 flashlight, here they explain the different application areas of the MT-G2 versus the XM-L2 versions
  23. 2013-08-16 ncvarmint : Eagtac SX25L3 VS Thrunite TN30 in throw and brightness, amusing discussion of these very different lights which cannot really compare. some folks like apples, some peeps prefer oranges, lol. similar discussions and recommendations involving Fenix TK75 or SupBeam X40 can be found on other forums.
  24. 2013-08-24 andreas0401 : Beamshotvergleich meiner leistungsstärksten Lampen, very helpful outdoor and indoor beamshot comparison between Lupine Betty TL2S versus SX25L3 MT-G2, ZebraLight S6330, Niteye EYE40, and Fenix TK75. one can easily see the difference in spill area, throw, tint, color rendition, brightness, beam artifacts. includes animated GIF's. relevant contribution. see also his collection of lux measurement data at 1m.
  25. 2013-08-25 Linx : "ЕДЦшник-переросток" EagleTac SX25L3 MT-G2. Light review., unbiased highly critical reviewer calls it a successful product and recommends it, NKON unboxing, disassembles the head, helpful photos of all head parts, admires the emitter and heatsink setup, leaves core parts in place yet details on their technical design, good description of all other parts, tries to measure current draw, has 2 beamshot settings against Lumintop ED20 and 4 other useless beamshots. contains good amount of info and original thoughts, difficult to understand though i don't know any Russian how about you
  26. 2013-08-27 mkr : "Pocket-Thrower": C8 (XM-L2 U2) versus ..., 1 beamshot setting comparing throw of UF C8, SX25L3, MTE M2-5, all with XM-L emitters, by illuminating a target at 120m distance. feel free to guess who the winner is lol.
  27. 2013-09-01 kreisler : Review: Eagtac EagleTac SX25L3 MT-G2 review, not better but textually much longer than selfbuilt's awesome review, extended tl;dr self-important text heavy review in tiresome repetitive style, with an unnecessary and unnecessarily long rambling Eagtac brand intro section lazily copy pasted from his older review work, biased opinion by a sincere ET enthusiast made in gemany, introducing the wonderful light for the first time officially on his home board, da phun BFL! with some original thoughts, some off topic, lists annotated manufacturer's URL's, comments on a chronological list of relevant WWW references including the work by himself, while his photo/scan contributions ****, the main point of his work is to publish definitive re-measurements of the absolute lumens output (not relative lumens output!) in form of equally nice technical tables and graphs similar to selfbuilt's presentation of test results and measurements. reference scale and calibration lights are 100% exclusively Fenix produce. he comes to the conclusion that the Eagletac's would have a higher lumens rating on the Fenix scale and that the SX25L3 is as bright as a Fenix flashlight which the Fenix factory and the Fenix company would officially rate with 2500 ANSI lumens. That's all he wanted to know. Why his review ended up being so wordy and not exactly informative, i'll ask him about it, you betc
  28. ffire. page presents SX25L2 at the center of interest, maybe because this model was released first in the S-series and therefore represents the original spirit of the series best?

Whatever you would possibly want to know about the SX25L3 can be found on the above 10 official webpages o

User interface. The possibilities of operating the light to the fullest cannot be explained in short and the dedicated webpage[ε] offers already the best most concise description, clearly laid out and more nicely represented than in the

Features / Value: ★★★☆☆Copy and paste, maximum ★★★★★

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Design / Build Quality: ★★★☆☆Copy and paste, maximum ★★★★★

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Battery Life: ★★★☆☆Copy and paste, maximum ★★★★★

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Light Output: ★★★☆☆Copy and paste, maximum ★★★★★

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Summary: ★★★☆☆Copy and paste, use rounded average, maximum ★★★★★

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The problem with having a spring at one end is that when the light is turned of, unscrewed slightly so the battery does not make contact with either end is that the battery will rattle. The foam takes this rattle out and pushes the battery away from that end contact and no rattle. I got around this problem with the last light I made by using an oring instead of foam. Turning the light on squashed the oring enough to make contact. When turned off the oring pushes the battery away from the contact point while still stopping the battery from rattling. Maybe the correct size oring could be used in your lights that have failed.

Kreisler, you ok?

Great work Kreisl, very entertaining - especially #27 :wink: Looking forward to the final numbers etc.

What’s your view on the step-down from turbo/high after x minutes?

Going to disagree with you on that first Con.

It's major Pro, given the second Con.

I dropped the regular tailcap altogether in favor of the one with the tail cap switch because you always know exactly where it is once you pick it up.

IMHO this light would be a mistake without the second tailcap. At least I'd dislike it, as opposed to actually liking it quite a bit.

pic, pic, pic :stuck_out_tongue:

Just click on any of the 10 eagtac links listed - lots of pics there.

Got an SX25L3 on order, be here Saturday. Excited? Not since Comet Kohoutek have I been so excited::::slight_smile:

EDIT: It’s Here! A beautiful, HEAVY, handful of light. So far I’m a bit unimpressed (jaded?), my TX25C2 is every bit as bright ’til you get to the highest level, but even the 2400 lumen level doesn’t seem all that much more powerful. Must be the more diffused beam, and…it’s still daylight. :expressionless: This thing weighs a ton!

Wonderful, glad that you like it!! :love:

Got my modded light back from Vinh yesterday.

The dedome is an absolute must on this light. The tint remained exactly the same, and if there was a loss in output, it was offset by the current boost.

IE, do you know how much he boosted the current? How much $ for the mod? How much was throw increased? Beamshots?

No I don't... I'll ask him.

I'll shoot you a PM, need to look it up. It was not cheap.

Throw is doubled if I had to guess. There is now a clear center spot, with a nice even spill corona. Not as bright as the flood was before, but very usable.

Beamshots coming... eventually. I'll try for tonight :p

I’m sure you’ve seen the MX25L3. For about $20, 2 oz., .65” head diameter and .8” length more, you get 45,100cd instead of 25,100cd. Everything else is the same.

Interesting, I think it would be a better stock option, but I expect my dedomed one, probably does the same in terms of throw. So I'll pass on it.

Still wondering how much that mod is….PM me!

How ’bout that MX25L3 XML2 with 81,000cd?!!! {8^O)

Asked Vinh, he says he boosted the current by about 1A. Which means any losses from the partial dedome, are more than compensated for.

Based on ceiling bounce it's a bit brighter than his Niwalker MTG2 light.

Overall I'm very pleased with it.

About this new version with the larger head... idk, for me it doesn't hold any appeal, but it's probably a nice light, given it's smaller cousin.