Review: Sky Ray 3800 3 x XM-L

Hi guy's,

I have my torch working again... For 2 Minutes...

There was a bad solding and I did it as it should.

Now I have the problem of heating, I think... After 2 seconds.

on med and low, the torch keep lightning. but on high, it is on for not even a second and on strobo and sos, it blinks 3-4 times and then it is dead, til I push the button again to go to the next program...

Any one an idea? Or is the circuit board broke and where can I find one? Does this one fits : http://www.nextgadgets.eu/nl/DIY-Parts-Tools/32633-5V-8.4V-15W-5-*-5-Cree-Mode-Memory-Circuit-Board-voor-Zaklampe.htm ?

Thank already.

Try other batteries? Might be the PCB protection kicking in.

Thank you, 2100.

I tried other battery's. (strange, why didn't I think about that) and it worked for one minute. Then the light goes out. When I push the button, I have HIGH licht again for about one minute.
The strange thing is also I tested it with a AC-DC transofmer on 7.5V and it was the same phenomenon.

Does that mean a battery is dead already?(they are brand new.) The mark is: PALIGHT BG18650 33300mAh 3.7V (black ones) are these good or is there a better mark?

I hope the light will keep on working now.

You wanna charge the cells to max and see if you can get it to work 3 minutes, 8 mins etc? If that's the case then your batteries are not of high quality, cannot sustain the current draw.

Hi 2100,

I did what you asked and indeed, they are lasting a bit longer. So the problem is indeed the batteries.Thank you so much for your answer.
I almost ordered a new circuit board... And it would not propably be the right one. :-D

Can anyone tell me which batteries I have to buy and where I can find them ?

Thanks.

i recomend these check the thread out if you want.

https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/4522

Yeah, Benckie posted good stuff there. Seriously any protected battery would do, key word = PROTECTED. This is for safety, esp for the driver(s) used in these lights. Can get the XTAR 2600s, they will serve you for quite a few years to come, spend a couple of dollars more.

I figured I would update this thread. I got the original Skyray version and my light is still going strong. This is no shelf queen either it is one of my most used lights. I have been using it as a bike light mounted to my handlebars powered by 2 bestinone 18500 IMRs. I mostly run it on low or medium, but occasionally I will run it for short periods on high. The weather has been extremely cold here so the light never gets hot.

I think it is high which kills the driver (heat). I use my triple XM-Ls for many hundreds of hrs already, no issue, but rarely in HIGH other than for fun.

I use my TR-3T6 99.99% on high with no problem

I have that one too and did 1 time on high with just airflow full bore, aka 60 minutes style (long time ago, more of testing the low voltage cut, which i found none). It gets really hot as well, so i would not say that it would not have issues. Just that nobody experienced it failing. This is just physics, can't get past it. The TF gets to 45 deg C faster than a TK70. 10 minutes on high for these running at 1300L OTF is really ok. 15 mins is prob the limit i'd do to be on the safe side.

Thing is, 1 failure is one too many really ($50 is not a heck lot of money but absolute nobody wants to throw money away LOL!), unless you have access to spare drivers, in your drawers that is and not with Manafont or DX or what.

If i really want the lumens for long periods as in hours, i just dig out multiple triples, run them at about 800 lumens each and bounce them. Did just that for my 13" HID mod a few days ago as i really needed the light to see the insides and when testing the lux and adjusting focus etc, probably did that for > 10hrs total.

There is a low voltage on it, the light dim,s and stays in low mode only letting the user know time to change batteries. To me thats low voltage protection not letting you run the light on high with low batteries.

I live in Australia it is a hot place and ive run the light many many times for over an hour no worries, if the out side of the torch is heating up quickly thats fine, it means the screw in is doing its job and the heat is soaking into the head and spreading away from the led,s and driver.

You can not compare a Tk70 to the TR-3T6, the TK70 is 4 times the price and the head is 4 times larger with much more surface area is just physics, can't get past it, its like trying to say an apple is an orange.

Maybe it's me....just don't feel good running the light till it is too hot to touch. The Trustfire triple is my main utility flashlight because it is floody and it takes 2 x 18500 which I use IMRs and gives me 30 mins just nice. I mean it's also cheaper than my DRYs so for utility use like taking down/pinning up curtains and finding things, this comes up as first choice. LOL!

Perhaps i have a good reason to be afraid, because these "generic" boost drivers are actually quite low in efficiency. That means more heat at the driver.

http://www.manafont.com/product_info.php/flashlight-component-triple-t6-cree-circuit-board-driver-p-7973

For the DRY, it's pretty easy to change out the driver, and so far only Thommy has a driver failure. He mentioned he uses the light a lot. It is very easy to overheat (with my definition of overheating) the light in Turbo, doesn't take more than 2 mins. And in High, not longer than 20 mins (actually by then it is at the Trustfire heat levels). For the much lowered efficiency and heat, you trade those for output.

But frankly i am looking at the new 1 x 26650 triple XM-Ls, looks cool! Not sure if it's a drop-in though.

http://www.tmart.com/pgallery/BeamTech-BT4000-CREE-XMT6-18W-2700LM-5-Mode-Flashlight-Gray_p136640.html

I think this will be good and it can run 26650,s.

TrustFire TR-J12 Cree XM-L T6 5-LED 4500-Lumen 5-Mode Memory Flashlight - Black Aluminum Alloy Finish (3 x 26650/3 x 18650)

ive been looking for a 26650 light i like and now its here