Review: Solarforce L2m and fake "Solarforce" L2m from Kaidomain (warning: picture heavy, not mobile friendly)

Is a Solarforce Fake a Worthy Substitute?

Nope.

Immediately after ordering an L2m tube from solarforce-sales to make use of an extra head/tail cap I had, someone put up a link to Kaidomain for an XM-L powered "Solarforce" L2m. The $19.97 asking price was not much more than I would expect to pay for a T6 drop-in so I didn't think I had much to lose by having my new XM-L shipped to me safely inside a flashlight. And, what a perfect opportunity to see how one of these popular Solarforce wannabes stack up against the real thing. Is a Solarforce flashlight worth the extra coin? In a word, yes.

The bottom line: This fake Solarforce L2m functions as it should but it is not a good flashlight as delivered from Kaidomain. The o-rings made almost no contact with either the head or the tail cap and there was nothing between the stainless steel bezel and the lens. Several dimensions are different, the threads feel awful (there are less of them on the tail) and the anodizing looks suspiciously like paint. Also, you cannot lego an extension to use an 18650 because the inside tube diameter is too small. For free I guess it's okay but there is no way I would intentionally purchase a "Solarforce" from Kaidomain. It is not a Solarforce and it's a poor imitation of one. The drop-in however is pretty darn awesome. It's bright as hell, draws nearly 3 amps and has a very nice white tint that I like. I hate the 5-mode flashy garbage but other than that, it is a drop-in worthy of being used in a real L2m, which is exactly where it is going.

What I like:

- the drop-in

- tint

- performance

- the low low (.10 amp)

- the real L2m

What I do not like:

- wrong size o-rings

- poor/less threads

- anodizing

- 16340 or CR123 only (no lego)

- the fake L2m

"Solarforce" L2m 3.7v Mini Cree XM-L T6 5-Mode from Kaidomain http://kaidomain.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductId=11189

emitter: Cree XM-L/T6

modes: 5-mode - hign, medium, low, fast strobe, SOS

battery: single 16340 or CR123

switch: tail-cap, reverse clickie (will tail stand)

lens: glass

ordered: 5-7-11

received: 5-25-11

price: $19.97 (currently $19.68)

Specs do not include an IPX rating but a shower with Foy did not result in any ingress. (after an o-ring overhaul)

nominal amps draw at battery base:

high >> 2.60

medium >> 1.05

low >> .10

maximum measured amps on high: 2.90

maximum measured surface temperature of flashlight on high: (fahrenheit)

124° at head

117° at tail cap

Features/Value

The wanabe Solarforce came with a superb T6 drop-in that sports a slick, trouble free UI with good spacing between high, medium and low and no long wait for mode retention. The strobe and SOS is stupid but at least . . . well, at least nothing - I don't like it. That's it; outside of the drop-in, I don't like this light. One "feature" that makes P60 flashlights so compelling is the ability to screw tubes together to make a different torch. The real Solarforce L2m is easily converted for 18650 use by simply adding an extension tube to make an instant L2. This is not possible with the fake L2m because the tube will not accommodate anything larger than a 16340/CR123. The slightly thicker tube wall is nice I suppose but the lack of interchangeability is a huge demerit for the fake Solarforce.

(extra o-rings and orange tail cap boot did not come with light)

Design/Build Quality

The fake L2m from Kaidomain is probably not the worst assembled light in the world but it is far from authentic Solarforce standards. The threads have a rough, loose feel and the finish lacks the tactile quality of a true Solarforce. There are slightly less tail cap threads on the fake and the o-rings that came with the light hardly touched the inside of either the head or tail cap. As received from Kaidomain, any moisture at all will quickly enter the flashlight past these very loose (and useless) gaskets. Basically; the design is stolen from Solarforce and the build quality/execution sucks.

Fake L2m.

(fake L2m)

Back of switch.

Fake L2m.

Fake L2m.

(fake on left, real L2m on right)

Note the chamfering difference and how smooth the real L2m is inside compared to the fake.

Fake L2m.

(real L2m)

Not only are there more threads on the real L2m but the last thread on the fake does not seem to engage at all. The lube I put on (light came bone dry) is still fresh and clean because the threads inside the tail cap have not touched the last thread on the tube.

(fake on left, real L2m on right)

Few threads on the tube and even fewer inside the tail cap.

16340 fits nice and snug in the fake L2m. Too bad no other battery will fit, making legobility impossible.

Real Solarforce will accept a CR123/16340 as well as an 18650 making the the real L2m much more versatile. The simple addition of an extension tube turns an L2m into an L2.

Inside measurements on fake (left) and real L2m. (right)

Tube thickness measurement for fake (left) and real L2m. (right)

Real L2m tail cap switch.

Real L2m button.

Real L2m tail cap switch.

Fake L2m on left, (real) L2 center and real L2m on right.

Okay; how 'bout some beam shots . . .

We're at Foybezel's Uglywall test facility where the cactus plant is 55 feet away, shutter speed is 1/4 second @ f2.8.

First up is the real L2m which tonight, features a 3-mode Ultra Fire XM-L drop-in with SMO and 16340 battery.

Next is the fake L2m with the 5-mode XM-L/OP reflector it came with. (same 16340 battery)

Next, I swapped out the OP on the fake (5-mode XM-L) to see how this drop-in would do with a smooth reflector.

And finally, for comparison, here's an L2P with an XM-L U2 drop-in.

As you can see, the fake holds its own by virture of a top performing XM-L drop-in. The only surprise for me was how much I liked the OP reflector. At the end of the day (and this review) all I can say is there will not be any more fake Solarforce lights joining Foy's collection. I'm glad I discovered this with an inexpensive L2m instead of something more pricey.

Read my lips: no fake Solarforces.

overandoutFoy

That dropin is really good and maybe it’s worth the extra couple of dollars to have it shipped safely inside the flashlight. I just bought a couple of these dropins and they weren’t even wrapped in anything when shipped. They arrived undamaged. It is brighter than the ultrafire dropin. The low is really nice also. If you do like the strobe, this is the one for you. It’s pure insanity!

I have a fake L2m and its rather nice , but then there is that quality control thing , one might be ok while another disappoints .

Excellent work as usual Foy!

Nice! Our SolarFoy busted the Solarfarce!

Good review Foy. I have both and actually prefer the fake because of it's "normal" interface and tailstanding ability. The real one has a funky "tactical" interface that makes you twist the tailcap to turn the light on. I prefer to just do a one-handed 'click' and the fake does that well. I haven't checked closely to see how the o-ring interface is, but I'm not going swimming with it so it's no big deal here in So Calif.

Actually troop, your L2m has a different switch than mine. Mine is a regular L2 reverse clicky and I think yours is like a Surefire twist/momentary forward clicky - a switch I happen to like very, very much, by the way.

And be-seen, when I took the fake siwtch apart I have to admit to holding back with any obsevations because I have little switch experience. I was wondering if the separate replaceable switch was a good thing or not. The way it all just fell apart initially seemed rather cheap.

Quality concerns aside, the light has worked without a hiccup but everything good that I like about it relates specifically to drop-in performance, which is superb. The flashlight itself is just plain bad.

Foy

So, it's really not a low quality switch. And, another excellent point showing that it is the execution of this light that is poor. (adding wavy washer/soldering) A good example of why it is wise to say nothing when I know nothing! I had a hunch it may not be as it first seemed. (the switch, I mean)

Foy

Thank you, Foy! Outstanding job, as usual. :)

I've been using my fake L2m as a MTB light these past couple of days and the nearest trail is about 3 miles from my place. The strobe definitely gets you noticed. ;)

I always forget about MTB use with the strobe. I guess it's not so dumb after all.

openmindFoy

More than understandable. :)

When I hear "bike", I think "motorcycle" and I'm just starting to get back into cycling. I used to be into downhill MTBing when I was in college but, well, that was then and I'm a bit older and a tad less stupid now. The lights we keep in our cars all have at least one strobe mode of some sort and sometimes I find having a blinky mode useful when walking the dog. I'm also a member of the SAR team and when using IR strobes or radio beacons isn't an option, strobe modes make for a cheap ghetto alternative since they're easily visible from the air and it's often easier to just go "See the strobe? That's us." than do the whole GPS-get-a-sat-fix-wait-for-the-sat-nav-to-realize-you-are-in-the-middle-of-nowhere-and-there's-no-road-nearby song and dance.

I can understand why many, if not most people, don't like strobe modes.

I'm just kinda weird. :D

Nope!

You just do different stuff from most other folks.

Nothing wrong with that!

Me, i don't want strobes but others do and that's just fine.

I just wish there were more choices without them - or that you couldn't get to the strobe modes without wanting to. 4sevens get this right in their lights - the strobe is there but you won't get to it unless you really want to.

So, sort of, do Mr.Lite.

No, not at all; you're opening my eyes big time. I'm starting to imagine all kinds of uses. I have a couple of 4Sevens lights and one has a "beacon" mode (one of eight modes it has) that flashes once every few seconds for up to 18 hours on two fresh AAs. Presumably for leaving at a camp site for example, to find your way back . . .

The 4Sevens UI is nice because in regular use you don't have to click past the modes you don't need. I guess that is what I dislike more than the extra modes themselves; the actual UI. I have a 5-mode U2 that is the most insanely awesome drop-in I have. But, if I hesitate a half second too long when powering down, I have to click through the flashies to get back to the mode I want to retain.

After this discussion I like that drop-in even more.

learningcurveFoy

I sure hope mine arrives on Tuesday. I am looking forward to this. I like the thicker walls for durability and strength and if I want to carry an 18650 light I will grab another light. I bought this to use a 16340 and don't care if I can't swap the tubes. If I could only afford one head and needed to interchange tubes I might care but I doubt if most of the folks here really need to worry about that. At least o-rings are cheap and easy to get and if that's all I ned to do with it then that's fine with me. I didn't buy it to get a Solarforce but to get a nice little pocket rocket free with a good XM-L drop-in. I think it will be a great light to not worry about if it gets beat. I'm just envious that I didn't get mine yet.

If my lights came perfect from the factory i would be missing out on what I like to do most - improve on things and mod them. :)

Well, then Johnny you are going to absolutely love this flashlight. And, as I said, it has functioned flawlessly and the drop-in is awesome.

IstillhateitFoy

Great review Foy! Excellent pictures and proof of your statements by disassembling it. Well done! Frontpage'd and Sticky'd.

I suspect that the real L2M will soon be phased out when current stock runs out. It used to be a smoking hot deal at $7.99 for the body if I remember correctly. But now, the grey color is no longer available, only black. And the only L2M body available now at solarforce-sales.com is tricked out with a better bezel and switch, which drastically increases the price to $19.99. This no longer makes sense when the L2P costs $17.99.

Hi Foy, a small favor: If it's not a lot of trouble, do you think you could replace the first image with a lower resolution / smaller version? Since the first image is on the frontpage it might cause trouble for low-bandwidth users. Even my (quite slow) DSL connection is having trouble with the first shot. Thanks a lot!

Not a problem.

Foy

Thank you sir!

I bought this 16340 version with an r2 for the same reason .. the drop in alone at that point was the price of the light and the drop in ..adding the 5$ 18650 conventor from solarforce makes it a usable light and still had the option of going back to the 16340 body .. The tip that all solarforces have tint ridges that you can see and feel with your nail is the most obvious way to know .. it's real / it's fake ..unlessyouarethefoy