Review: Tank007 E09

Tank007 E09

Reviewer's Overall Rating: ★★★★★

Summary:

Battery: AAA or 10440
Switch: Twisty
Modes: H-M-L
LED Type: Cree XP-E
Lens: Glass
Tailstands: Yes
Price Paid: $11.69
From: DinoDirect
Date Ordered: 10 Mar 2012

Pros:

  • Very nice build quality
  • Bright!
  • 3 modes
  • Better throw than iTP A3
  • Has memory (sort of)

Cons:

  • Short runtime on High
  • PWM
  • Mode order is H-M-L
  • Takes 2-3 seconds for memory to set
  • No clip

There is already a very extensive review of this light done by Kreisler. I thought I would do a review comparing the light to the very popular iTP A3 EOS, which has since been updated as the Olight i3 EOS. I really like the A3 and it has lived on my keychain since I got my first one a couple of years ago.

Features / Value: ★★★★★

The light is pretty simple. It is a 3-mode light that is small enough to go on a keychain easily, but it packs a powerful punch with a Cree XP-E LED (claimed R2 bin). Works great on a NiMH battery, but becomes a mighty might with a 10440, just like the A3. Unlike the A3, it tailstands just fine, even with the split ring attached. The mode order is High, Medium, Low, which is backwards to me, but at least there are no strobes. The memory sets after the light is on for 2-3 seconds, which is too long, but I have other lights like that, so I'm used to it. The reflector is smooth which gives this light a little better focus and throw than the iTP.

The value is quite good. The light is advertised at DinoDirect for $13.69, but I bought it along with an Enlan knife and a couple of cases for 18650's, putting my order just over $30. This allowed me to use a $5 discount code, so I'm saying the net cost was $11.69, applying part of the discount towards this light. That is a great price for a light of this quality and significantly less than the 3-mode iTP A3 which usually was around $20. The light is also available from a number of other dealers, including Manafont. Lately it has been introduced in gray and a pinkish purple color. According to Kreisler, my sample is a version 2 of the light.

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The light comes in a nice tin Altoids type tin, including the keyring attachment and some extra o-rings. There seems to be space in the box for a battery, but I'm okay with the battery being left out.

Design / Build Quality: ★★★★★

The build quality and design of this light are absolutely first rate. It is competitive with the iTP A3 EOS in just about every aspect and even exceeds it in some ways. While it does not have a clip, it has an anti-roll head that keeps it in place and you can attach a lanyard. The anodizing seems very good, HA III is claimed. The lettering is neat, there is a good o-ring at the head joint that works and even came lightly lubed. The threads are very smooth and tight, and much longer than the iTP, as you can see in the picture below with the E09 on the left and the beat up A3 on the right.

Some people have reported off-center LED's or malfunctioning lights, so the quality isn't assured, but the one I got seems pretty much flawless.

Battery Life: ★★☆☆☆

For battery life I will use my scale where 1 star for 0-15 minutes, 2 stars for 15-30 minutes, 3 for 30-60 minutes, 4 for 60-120 minutes, and 5 for anything over 120 minutes. I can't log the information, so I measure the current draw, then let the light run, and stop periodically to get a reading on the at-rest battery voltage and latest current draw. On a fully charged Eneloop 800mAh battery, I got 25 minutes, so that is 2 stars. This thing has quite a draw of 1.7A from the tiny Eneloop. At 25 minutes the battery was empty and while I was able to take a current reading, it was dropping very fast. Still, the current draw is very consistent at 1700mA almost the entire time.

Time (hr:min) Battery (v) High (mA) Med (mA) Low (mA)
0:00 1.418 1750 530 40
0:05 1.265 1700 620 50
0:10 1.257 1680 630 50
0:15 1.233 1710 620 50
0:20 1.182 1690 620 50
0:25 0.982 1260 490 60

Because the light got very warm, almost hot with a NiMH, for the lithium ion testing I put the head down in a shallow pan of water for better cooling. 10440's driven hard (and that's the only way to drive them, really) don't last long. Mine may be in poor shape (based on the numbers below, I calculate 140mAh capacity while the label claims 600mAh), getting only 10 minutes of runtime from the light. After the first 5 minutes almost depleted the battery, I checked again at 8 minutes just to make sure I wasn't going too low. The voltage is measured at rest. Less than 15 minutes of runtime earns this 1 star for lithium ion, though I think I could get at least twice this if the battery was in better shape.

Time (hr:min) Battery (V) High (mA) Med (mA) Low (mA)
0:00 4.14 970 310 20
0:05 3.79 850 270 20
0:08 3.64 750 240 30
0:10 3.59 680 270 20

Here is a comparison of the two lights. The Tank007 is definitely a little bigger, but still small enough for a keychain. Length is 70.2mm vs. 67.1mm for the iTP (69.4mm if you include the keychain attachment that the iTP has). Weight without battery is 13.1g for the E09 and 10.3 for the A3 without clip.

Light Output: ★★

The E09 is on the left and the A3 is on the right. The lights are 50cm from the wall. Powered by NiMH batteries and both lights on high, the exposure is set to 1/100th second to get something like what you see in real life. This picture makes it look like the iTP has a greenish tint, but there really isn't that much difference. I really like the tint of the E09, not too cool, and maybe leaning a little towards neutral. The smooth reflector makes for a tighter hotspot than the textured reflector of the A3. Newer A3's and the i3's have a Cree XP-G LED for an even bigger hotspot than my second generation A3 which has an XP-E.

Now the exposure is stepped down to 1/400th second:

And down to 1/1600th second. The E09 seems to have a brighter tighter hotspot.

Now both lights on Low at 1/100th second. I've always like the A3's Low and the E09 seems to be about the same:

Both on Medium, again roughly equivalent.

Now I'll put an uprotected 10440 in each of the lights and do the same comparison. Again, they are pretty equal, but I have to give the edge to the E09 (mouse over for a comparison to NiMH for each of these).

Now with the exposure at 1/400th second:

And at 1/1600th second:

Outdoors. There is a lot of pollen in the air right now, but for the most part these pictures seem to have turned out alright. The plant is about 25 feet away and the light is aimed at the fence posts which are about 100 feet away. Obviously you're not going to get the kind of throw you would with a P60 light, but just being able to see the fence posts is pretty good for a light this size. The exposure is 4 seconds which makes the pictures taken on High seem about equal to what I see, but underexposes what I see on Low. The Low is probably around a lumen or two, like the iTP A3, but even that is enough to show the plant at 25', though it does not show up in the picture (mouse over to compare with the iTP A3 EOS, also on NiMH):

Now again with NiMH but on Medium (mouseover for A3):

And on High with NiMH, the Tank007 seems brighter:

Now with an unprotected blue Ultrafire li-ion 10440 this thing cranks out some light, but first on Low (mouse over for A3):

Now on Medium with a 10440 (I'm in my backyard taking pictures of flashlight beams at 1:30 in the morning and a car goes by in the background!):

And on High:

And here is the same picture, but this time the mouseover is the E09 on NiMH:

Now, for comparison. Here is a my Sunwayman V10A with a Cree XP-G powered by li-ion (mouse over for the E09 on li-ion):

And my Unquefire UF-2100 with a Cree XM-L with li-ion 18650:

Now here are details of the fence posts so you can compare throw. The first row is the A3 on NiMH and li-ion. Then the E09 on NiMH and li-ion. The last row is the V10A and 2100. I'll give the edge to the E09 on NiMH, but they are about equal on li-ion.

The E09 has PWM (rapid flashing to simulate a Low). The rate is about the same as the original iTP A3 EOS, which wasn't great. The second generation A3 increased the speed quite a bit. Below is a 1/20th second exposure. The light flashes 9 times, so that comes out to 180 Hz. My second generation A3 gives a smooth line with this test, so the PWM isn't noticeable. But even the first generation A3 I have gets 11 flashes instead of 9, so it has a rate of about 220 Hz. The BLF Edition Tank007 E07 has the same PWM rate of 9 pulses in 1/20th second. I do not like PWM, so I'm taking off a star for light output.

Summary: ★★★★★

Despite some shortcomings, to me this is a great little light, and I would have no problem recommending it instead of the more expensive iTP A3 EOS unless you just really want a clip or absolutely can't deal with the higher defect rate of the Tank007. Due to the high draw on NiMH batteries, I would recommend only using LSD cells. I think 10440's can work just like they do with the A3, but do exercise caution.

Follow up, June 18, 2012: I bought a gunmetal gray one. More of an olive or brownish. It was actually a little cheaper than the black one. Dino's description of the Tank007 E09 in gray doesn't mention that it comes in the same tin and has 3 modes, but it does. It's a great change of pace from basic black. Quality is just as great as the other one I got.

Nice review Ted.

I ordered one from Manafont. Can't wait for it to arrive. Maybe I'll order some 10440 batteries as well.

Awesome review there Ted!

Aloha and welcome to BLF gloomywarfreak!

Looks like a nice light ,

ordered one as well , hopefully gets here early next week ...

Originally resisted as I thought it was much larger than the ITP , but after seeing it side by side , could not pass it bye

Nice review.

I also ordered one from DD...three months ago, it never showed up. At least I got my money back from Paypal.

will the EO9 take a protected 10440? If so, which one fits and works?

thanks,

patrick

Protected 10440's are too long. Kreisler's review shows one way of making it work by adding a brass ring to the end of the body tube to provide some extra length and still make electrical contact between the body tube and the head.

Sweet review brted.

And it's good to have you here gloomywarfreak.

followers of the topic already know that the next production batch of E09's (termed internally as "E09 V3") will have a dedicated longer battery compartment to fit all brands of Protected 10440's, and this new fact/improvement will also be communicated on the product webpage when V3 is out.

brted's is clearly a V2 copy (and it does have the XP-E R3 in it, not the XP-E R2, see also the current product webpage which showcases the V2).

The PWM is confirmed by the company to be "normally 180~ 250HZ, and we use 230HZ" in the E09 product. The company deliberately doesnt intend to employ higher frequency PWM in an effort to avoid whining. So that's what you get with Tank007 products (similar to Balder lights, etc.). If all of my lights had the 230Hz frequency, it would be a dealbreaker if i were to buy another (new) light with the same low frequency. My Romisen RC-29 has a similar low PWM, and i am good with both ... but please not another (third) light! ;)

The defective samples were an issue of V1 (the cheap glue functioning as insulation layer -- as we recall from the other review). On my V2 sample, with my bare hands, i am not able to unscrew the upper head part from the lower head part, so i cant check the V2 insulation layer. In any case, the manufacturer is aware of the original insulation problem (V1), so let's see how they handle it in the upcoming V3.

I also did and published extensive runtime tests involving multiple test runs, both on original Eneloop AAA's and on Protected Ultrafire 10440's, and also measured amperages from tailcap readings. The interested reader may feel free to compare the measurements from both reviews.

Really great review btw. These kinds of beamshots were exactly the ones missing in the other review

Really.... Why push dinodirect on everybody? Every other post you make is about dinodirect, or linking to them.

Do you work for them? Do you get paid by them? Whats the deal?

BTW, if anyone wants this light, don't buy it from dinodirect unless your ready to receive missing parts, zero customer service (and I mean ZERO, nothing but liar cust service reps) and possibly not even receive your product.

I bought mine from dinodirect and it came with missing o-rings, and the customer service reps lied to me multiple times, and refused to replace the missing o-rings. It was even confirmed by Sweety of tank Co. that dinodirect lied and never contacted them.

Bottom line : Awesome light, I carry it on my keychain, but DONT BUY IT FROM DINODIRECT. PAY THE EXTRA $1-2 AND ORDER FROM ELSEWHERE!

sorry that you didnt have any good experience with them (Summer even sent you a PM and you didnt seem willing to give the solution-finding another try with/via her). the OP got his copy from DD too, so please respect the OP and his nice review thread and keep the forum’s peace and dont start an offtopic dispute (subject: kreisler, or subject: DD) in here.

btw, i've deleted the quoted post Tongue Out (and will stop referring to DD from now on in this E09 review thread).

I have had 3 iTP A3's. Each came with extra o-rings, but I have never needed them. Don't feel too bad if you don't get them, though, yes, they should be included in the box.

I would say this light starts to lose it's cost-competitiveness over $16 when the Olight starts looking pretty good for not much more (roughly $21 after discounts). But for the price I paid, it is an excellent value.

How do you know I didn't respond to summers PM? That's awful odd. We already know that you're kreisler AND dinoboy, but are you also Summer? Seems like it could be possible.... How else would you I didn't respond to her PM? It all adds up, you reccomend and spam dinodirect everywhere, you had another username under the nick "DinoBoy", and you were caught voting with multiple usernames on polls about dinodirect (in favor of them), and now you somehow know I didn't respond to summers PM.

Could Summer, DinoBoy and kreisler all be the same person?

Okay. Good thing I didn't order protected 10440's.

Thanks for the warm greetings fishin and raccoon. Lots of friendly people and tons of info on lights! This place rocks!

No, it can't be.

Why not?

Summer can't speak German. ;-)

Are you sure that kreisler/dinoboy can do that?

If he cant, then Google Translate can...

He's already been caught using the username dinoboy from china (or wherever it said he was from) and just so happen the avatar of dinoboy was of a dinosaur (same as dinodirects website logo)

It's probably a good chance he's Summer also, especially since he knew about the outcome of my pm with summer.