REVIEW: UltraOK Technologies = Cree Q5 3-Mode Zoom 1x18650

UltraOK Technologies

300lm Cree Q5 3-Mode 18650 Zoom

Be-Seen Triker's Overall Rating: ★★★★

Summary:

Battery:

18650 (protected okay)

Switch:

Tail Clicky

Modes:

3 - High/Low/Strobe

LED Type:

Cree Q5

Lens:

Dome - Plastic

Tail stands:

Yes

Price Paid:

$8.44 (ebay – topofking)

From:

UltraOK Technology

Date Ordered:

15-Jan-2011

Pros:

  • Cheap
  • Bright
  • Strobe (no SOS)
  • Super tight thrower and insane flood
  • Good fit of the battery, including protected cells
  • 18650 specific; no adapters, dedicated driver
  • Good heat dissipation
  • PWM on Low mode
  • Light weight
  • Reliable under rugged conditions (fixed to an unsuspended bike frame at the wheel)
  • Reliable threads on tail cap

Cons:

  • Driver ground termination questionable (how do you terminate the PCB to aluminum anyway?)
  • Threads cut after anodize
  • Delivered very greasy
  • Lock-rings loose on delivery
  • Fit and finish lower quality than higher priced torches
  • Tactical crown unnecessary
  • No seals at lens
  • It rolls away

Features / Value: ★★★★★

For a sub-$10/USD torch, you get a nice collection of parts. It –is- a Q5 Cree; it has a solid clicky switch engineered for the tail-cap with a molded plastic holder; the pill is well integrated with the body making for good heat distribution; and of 4 units purchased, they all worked right out of the bubble pack. The fact that it has only 3 modes makes it easy to use even without memory. 1 click and 2 light pushes and I’m in strobe mode which I use these for most of the time. Memory might be nice. Thankfully, one could easily change the driver to one’s favorite driver. I definitely got my money’s worth for exactly the functions I needed for my cycling application.

Design / Build Quality: ★★★☆☆

The design is a bit different form the drop in designs mostly due to the fact that there is no need for a reflector in a zoomy. That may not be totally true but the standard 22mm domes lens does most of the work on these. There is an attempt to reflect light out of the torch by adding a reflective disk at the emitter. I’m sure other high quality zoom torches provide a little extra effort in this area but UltraOK does get a few browny point for their effort.

Although heat dissipation path is well designed for the Q5 emitter, it is not a host for a XM-L or much else over a 1000ma. As seen in the images, the emitter is clamped between a lock-nut and the pill, and the pill is open to the driver. Although the manufacturer went nuts with heat-sink compound, the overall contact area is limited. With the Q5 this solution works. The lens-head is isolated from the heat because it moves for the zoom mode by floating on o-rings, and the rest of the body seems to warm up evenly. Temperature during the pictures was very touchable. Nothing I would worry about.

As for build, rebuild! The torch came in very greasy and all the lock-rings and the pill were loose. I didn’t have to do anything to the solder joints, only the final assembly details. No big deal as long as you know to do it. Also in the pictures, you can see that the solder joints could be better and cleaner. I’m very tempted to take the soldering iron to the driver’s spring. I also want to find a better way to terminate the driver PCB to the aluminum pill housing. They use an interesting technique, but I want something more –connected-, if you know what I mean. This driver is essentially press-fit into the housing.

And another thing to note; no seal on the lens! Seems they went for simplicity. I wouldn’t worry about it in the rain but I wouldn’t throw it in the swimming pool.

Battery Life: ★★★★

What can I say, it is a Q5 driven by an 18650. I haven’t done a tail-cap current measurement simply because I don’t have a current meter. If someone can identify the driver, I think we’ll know what to expect from this torch. I’ve run the strobe up to 4 hours already without issue. Since I carry 4 of these on my recumbent trike; 2 forward and 2 rearward, in theory I have 8 hours of runtime if I alternate. This is a lot of runtime for my purpose. I’ve also done several hours in low mode at night, again, quite impressive output for seeing the fog-line …in the fog.

Light Output: ★★★☆☆

For my purposes the light output is superb! But by general standards, these are utilitarian more than throwers. As a general torch, knowing the limitations of zoom capable torches, I will de-rate these to a 3-star rating. Even for my purposes, being a wide angle flood, the tactical crown gets in the way. A more clever head design and a more optimized reflector could really bring out the full capability of the Q5 while still offering the superb run-time.


Summary: ★★★★

Seriously, these were purpose bought lights. I order 2/each twice form the same eBay reseller. That should say something about how well I like this utilitarian torch. And as you can tell later, a simple mod makes this unit perfect for bicycle tail lights as well. They take the punishment of the suburban pothole riddled chip-sealed roads and just keeps on blinking. I know people see me coming because I see people slow down, move around, and even stop to let me pass. –That- is the beauty if the super wide flood properties of the zoomies. And I simply cannot pass up a good deal, spending less on 4 lights them most people spend on 1. The only ding I will give this light is the overall build quality. You have to take them apart and just go through it.

Now for the innards:

A size comparison: Left - UltraOK being reviewed : Mid – no-brand SolarForce R2-M 2x16340 : Right – Suburban road find LED Lenser 3x AAA

The =Package= w/ pill assembled

The switch details. Nice solid click to the switch. Note the torch body contact on the left of the switch. I’m still reserved about the dome contact vs. a spring contacting the battery. Springs allow more battery movement without intermittent contacts risking vibration induced mode shifts. Tail stands and lanyard holes (lanyard provided).

The switch sub-assembled. I didn’t see any markings on the switch other than the “A” visible in the image.

…and assembled with the lock-ring. Overall, a nice solid design.

This is the extent of the optical elements. Nothing impressive here except the lack of seals to keep out the elements. Seems the aluminum tactical ring is nickel plated. The bezel definitely has enough heft to allow for some machining. It will still be too deep to share the dome’s light form a side view. For me, this is “lost light” although it does get reflected back into the beam… somewhere.

This is what it looks like when delivered at maximum flood. If you look carefully, you can see all the bits: Cree emitter’s metal ring; flat “reflector”; lock-nut; domed lens; and bezel.

The –pill-! A lock-ring holds the emitter on a shoulder in the housing and the “reflector” sits on top of the metal band around the emitter. You want to be careful here as the center hole in the reflector can interfere with the emitter dome. It took a little effort to get all centered up this nicely.

And here is the heart of this torch. Like I said, a bit messy but they are well soldered leads. Also note the excessive heat-sink compound. That is a Q5, isn’t it?

As for the driver, I don’t recognize it. I was surprised to see the “D882” regulator, and also noted the unterminated pins on the 8-pin DIP. It is kind of convenient that you can get to the driver from under the emitter. Someone care to help me out and ID this driver? I’m seriously considering a NINJG 101 AK in there since it has 2 very useful slow strobe modes available.

This is the area I am still concerned about… actually, I am in awe that this is making contact at all. I have to think that the other side of the board is actually making the contact with the pill body. The driver was press-fit into the housing and you can see some deformation of the PCB. It is in there very tight and I left it be for the time being. Anyone have a good idea on how to assure contact between the driver and an aluminum body? There is no shoulder in the torch body to make contact with the driver board.

On a final note, remember to clean the body and parts with some alcohol wipes. O-rings are easily removed so the grooves too can be cleaned too. I used a light oil on the o-rings for the slide action. This –really- freed up the zoom action. Not sure why it was sticky before I cleaned it… it had plenty of grease. As for order of assembly, this step is done before putting the pill back in. The pill keeps the lens assembly in place.

High at a couple of feet away at full flood. Strobe is the same intensity.

Low at the same camera settings. I think it is much better in real life. Notice how dark the chair is in both beam pictures.

And a bonus section:

As droned so often in my posts; I do have a specific purpose for my light quest. This light just works perfectly for one of those: bicycle tail lights. This is how I converted the white lights to red without changing the emitters.

High beam at full flood through the film from a pair of 3D glasses inserted on the flat side (inside) of the lens. Blue can be achieved the same way.

…and a frosted lens replaces the stock clear lens. I got the frosted lenses in a previous eBay buy and am happy to put them in service here. It helps diffuse the light all across then lens.

…this mod produces this fantastic reddish amber tint.

Less than useful tight beam pattern with red film mod.

…and then at full flood. Notice how the red affected the camera image too. This is exactly what I want. Most rear bike lights have very poor spread making them easy for drivers to ignore. This light draws attention at much broader angles. …hence the overkill on lumens.

That’s all I got guys and gals. Hope you enjoyed this and maybe an UltraOK Technologies light may not look as bad as it once did… or maybe worse. You decide.

Wow! What an awesome review Be-Seen Triker! And great pics too. (clapping or thumbs-up smiley here)

Hi!

I just ordered the 320lm zoomable model from them

http://www.ultraok.com/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&inc_subcat=1&search_in_description=1&categories_id=&keyword=320+lumens+zoom

Great review! How come you need such a powerfull flashlight for tail light?... actually 2 of those? Fog cycling?

I'ts a good light for the price. Nice find. The two taillights on the bike seem to be overkill, but at least it is very safe, even if eventually one of them fails.

Excellent review 8) Only one thing: please, delete all those intros (Enter) between lines.

There is actually a paste from Word button two to the right of the Font size box. It may help with the layout.

I've never actually tried it so I don't know how well, or if, it works.

Ah well, I'd never tried the button myself. Far too much of my working day is spent in Word, I try to avoid it at home.

Myself, I just use the built-in editor - it isn't brilliant compared with a full-screen HTML editor but is usable enough.

If I have something unusually fancy to do I'll do it in a text editor as HTML and paste it into the edit box after clicking on the HTML button.

Unless it involves tables. I hate tables.

It used to be said that what happened to typesetters who'd been bad was that they would have to set tables for eternity. In Arabic.

Well they certainly look like they will do the job :)

Very impressive review Be-Seen! Impressive detail on those macro shots. Thanks for your hard work on this! Frontpage'd and Sticky'd.

You're most welcome, thanks for the great post. If you want help with formatting the next time you write a review just let me know and I can help you avoid a few of the formatting hassles.

Hi, a newcomer here looking for a bit of advice....

I have this same light and it seems something has died in it somehow and it is now only emitting a very low beam even with new fully charged cells in it.

From your pics it seems it is possible to take it to pieces to replace parts but was wondering how you get the zoom head off to get at the led/driver to replace them - I dont want to go and damage the light by forcing it or doing the wrong thing!

Also - what would you recommend as a replacement to get it running again?

Cheers

Dan

Welcome to BLF dandan.

Maybe more info would help. What batteries you use? The flashlight is faulty on arrival or after some use? The led change his tint (light became "blue")?

From the description could be a faulty driver and the problem is this kind of flashlight often use a 20mm driver, very difficult to find.

Hi Davx

The light worked on arrival but once I fully charged the battery - 18650 Trustfire, using a trustfire charger - and tried the light again it was super bright for a few seconds, then i smelled burning so switched off.

After that I switched on again and the led was very dim, no change in tint, just very dim, no more burning smell though. I have tried with 2 or 3 different batteries and get the same result.

The battery was as supplied by the seller in a package with this light so I am sure it is correct.

Seller has agreed to ship me a new light free of charge - I am just wondering if this dead one can be fixed or is destined for the trash.

Seems that the problem is on the driver. That's a problem because as i said is really difficult find a 20 mm driver. You can try to adapt a 17mm driver using the burned one like support.

You can try to unmount the light to see where is burn or if there's some bad solder.

I put a nanjg kd 2800 mah 17mm driver in my ultraok light..with a few 1735's detached to make 1.4a..the 17mm driver fit perfectly in mine and is much brighter than the stock driver which measured 700mah..i'll take a picture if anyone wants to see lol

the contact area of the led had me worried about heat but the head of this host gets warm faster than any of my other lights..which tells me it is doing a good job of transfering heat..

Great! I have a similar flashlight but has a 20mm driver. If it's 17mm it's really easier to find.

As other say, you can order led and board and change them. You will have a "new" light.

I'm thinking this post belong here... it is a repost form the "What did you do today" thread:

I noticed in recent days (nights) that one of my red tail lights on my recumbent trike was a bit on the dim side when I got home. This was disturbing as it may well be a dying driver or Q5 emitter. Turns out the much hated BRC Trustfire 3000mah cells is not charging properly. I'm sure it is reaching end of life and watching the discharge on it, it really does have an issue. It stops charging way to early and has minimal life.

Anyway, so I decided to go through and do some maintenance and some mods to the 4 UltraOK zoomies. Nothing radical;

  • I've wanted to Foy the bezels since the day I got these lights, so I did that. Turns out one bezel was much larger in diameter then the rest, so I fixed that too.
  • I smoothed the battery entry to the tubes with sandpaper on the lathe. They all had sharp edges and I use mylar sheets to protect the cells and to help remove the cells (something to grab onto since the lights are mounted on the bike). The tape used to hold the mylar tubes together tended to catch on these edges making the battery hard to slide in. Smooth as silk now.
  • I turned down the lanyard ring on 2 of the tailcaps. The other two tailcaps face forward so I kept those shoulders in tact to protect from accidental actuation from road debris.
  • I checked the current of each light: 800ma, 1000ma, 1100ma, 1200ma; I paired the brightest on the rear. I don't know why they vary so much. I made direct contact with the driver contact rings and I still got the same reading.
  • I replaced the red film with the Rubylith film for the rear lights. I left the Rubylith on the 5-mil backing mylar. The backing mylar is facing the emitters so heat exposure will be less of an issue.
  • I checked all the drivers for good spring soldering. I found the solder joints on the springs were wearing from all the vibration these lights deal with... and one was ready to let go. Close call but all good now. Re-soldered all the springs just to be sure.
  • Re-lubed all the o-rings

Everything is back on the trike for tonight's moonlight run. One of these days I will get some real runtime readings with some known cells... maybe RevJim's 2350mah cells.

Triker, would love to see your bike with all the lights on. Got pictures?