Woke up this morning to find this:
Roche M170 @ FastTech $86.67
Sky Ray King @ FastTech $42.00 EDIT: NOT IN NW. JUST IN BLACK NOT SAND.
My wallet cries, but I can't hear it over the thousand of lumens I'm shining on it. S)
The link you posted is for the CW one. I don’t see a NW King on FastTech.
If you read the description, the bin reads:
T6-3C
3C tint -> NW. :)
I am not seeing it for the King. The King says XML U2 which is CW. The Roche is defiantly NW, but unless I am looking at the wrong place the King is CW.
Ah, corrected.
I just noticed there are four different SRK variants at Fasttech now:
SRK U2 GOLD
SRK U2 BLACK
UV-S5 GOLD #1 (I own this one)
UV-S5 GOLD #2 (No lanyard? Any other difference???)
No that nice heavy duty box.
Both kings and uv-s5 #2 are copies.Only fandy #1 looks genuine.
It would be nice if FT could also offer original kings,at a higher price of course.
How can you tell they are copies? FastTech has been selling authentic merchandise up to now. Why would they start to sell knock offs with the SRK? A lot of other members have said that they look like the real deal.
Black one looks copy to me (bezel looks plated not SS).
Do black SRK’s come out in T6 NW? I’ve only seen U2 CW’s…?
Ahem, quick question:
That Roche M170 does not use PWM but are you guys aware of any other 3 x XM-L + multi 18650 lights that are similar?
Myself, cannot think any…
I have the gold king from there and it isn’t a copy. The black one looks genuine too, with the original laser etching (the copies are slightly different), original driver and original lanyard.
Can you post some pictures(switch,bezel,leds centering, “propeller” on the back). Laser logo means nothing(you can print whatever logo you want on CQG),lanyard,who cares about lanyard?
I had 3 kings,2 from lightmalls,first one looked good to me,second was lower quality,third black one(NW) from fancyF,and then I realized how both kings from lightmalls weren’t genuine. Quality of black king from FF was way better.
From my experience,the easiest way to recognize genuine king(or fandyfire) are switch and bezel.
Switch on my FF king looks the same as on fasttech’s UV-S5 for 45$,and IIRC first 80$+ kings had identical switch.
@flashlight man
If there is only one genuine fandyfire UV-S5,and fasttech sells only genuine products,how can you explain 2 fandyfires,obviously different, on their page?
(as I can see,more expensive fandy(pic 2) has 3 deeper and 2 shallower “holes” on head cooler,cheaper fandy(pic 4) has 2 deeper and 3 shallower holes,just like my fake 2nd king from lightmalls,and that means hotter case)
Sorry, I’ve just remembered that I actually ordered my king from an aliexpress dealer, it just cost the same as the Fast-tech order and came at around the same time as one.
Mine is certainly genuine though, the LEDs are well-centered, stainless steel bezel etc. I realize that anyone could etch the correct markings on the head but it seems they didn’t. The left point on the star of the fakes seems to go out to above the k in Sky Ray, while the genuine ones only goes to the left edge of the y. I haven’t heard about any fakes being sent with the original lanyard yet either, but of course they could have started sending them with better imitations.
That’s a good point about the cooling fins, 3x deep and 2x shallow seems to mark genuine ones as opposed to vice versa. There is a clear difference in anodization quality apparent in the pictures too, but then the original gold skyray at fast-tech looks to have the lower quality anodization but in all other respects appears genuine…
I’m not sure dichotomising all of them into ‘genuine’ and ‘fake’ is the best way to go about it though anyway. A number of different runs from the same and different factories are likely to be going at once. There was evidence of one clearly sub-par version with a poorer driver, which is the worst concern, but all of the fast-tech ones seem to have the original driver from the pictures.
I’m seriously considering ordering a black one at this price, I doubt the ‘U2’ claim, but then also doubt most ‘T6’ binned cheap chinese lights are genuinely T6 anyway. It seems genuine with the only different between it and the original being the colour and the centering ring used around the LEDs.
Does genuine SRK have anodized threads on head part too?
My $45 FandyFire doesn't.
Genuine one sold at cnqualitygoods has anodized threads.
Well, after a review on the german forum it does have PWM (post #18)
I was was a bit shocked to read this, because intl-outdoor andvertises it as No-PWM…
Just got email from FastTech. This is what they say about the King.
We’ve confirmed with our supplier and they mentioned it’s the genuine SRK one.
Please feel free to write us whenever you have questions. We’re always here to help.
For me genuine king means “same brightness AND quality as the first 80$+ kings”. Small differences in body design,different lanyard,box etc. aren’t important. It seems that most of kings on the market have genuine brightness(same leds,same driver,same current),but very few have genuine quality of mechanical parts.That includes the switch,body(machining and anodizing),bezel,reflector and LEDs centering. On “less genuine” kings some(or all) of these are lower quality.Switch is bulkier, lower cnc machining quality,feels and looks worse than “genuine”,quality of body cnc machining is usually significantly worse,bezel is sometimes plated(easy to recognize because it’s very shiny), and leds are often terribly centered.
If you look the switch on fasttech’s kings(for example the newest warm white gold version),you will see pretty untidy cnc machining,switch is full of scratches and it isn’t anodized (pic 5).
And on pic 3 you can see that 2 of 3 leds are terribly out of center.
That can’t be “feature” of genuine king.
I believe that Fasttech is honest,but i think that supplier of their kings isn’t telling the truth.