Thanks Barkuti, I expected as much. But in this small of light with a TIR, I wonder if the larger led die will make a better flooder, since there won't be much throw anyhow. Additionally, the xp-g3 photo red is supposed to have more light in the visible spectrum for humans, vs the Xp-E2 photo red, which produces a beutiful tint in my opinon, but too many lumens are wasted in the higher spectrum that isn't visible to the human eye, from what I understand. Hopefully someone will post some testing results soon on the new xp-g3 photo red, I also would like to know how the luminus red leds stack up against the cree leds in terms of red color, output, and throw. I hope they can make this light work soon, I'm interested no matter how it the UI and led choice shakes out in the end.
Edit: I may have gotten that reversed about the Xp-g3 putting out more visible light vs the xp-E2 photo red. I'm no expert, just going off the info that djozz and others generously share on the forum. I started a thread on red leds if anyone has more input on their favorite "less-orange" photo or deep red led out there:
https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/56125?page=1
Normally I want the most throw (for an outdoors light at night or a weapon light for hunting) but since this light will be for a keychain, I figured flood is the goal. Interested in the 80 degree Oslon in a thrower reflector or aspheric light for its narrow beam angle. I'll try that next since the xp-g3 can't really be dedomed easily (for me), and thus won't help me get more throw like the XP-E2 photo red does.