The BLF GT70 "Giggle Monster" is here! 7,500lumens, 1,500m throw! Group buy Closed!

[teacher]

@JorisFRST

I might pass on this one if we’re not getting the 4k NW, the 5K is a bit too close to the CW my idea ?

Edited to add we had some thunderstorms last night and I feel a Warm White version would better cope with that then even the NW.

You can always change the emitter to one you do like if you get it & don’t like it.

[JorisFRST]

@teacher

You can always change the emitter to one you do like if you get it & don’t like it.

Sure, just giving my opinion, we’ll go with what the majority or lumintop decides

[teacher]

@JorisFRST

@teacher

You can always change the emitter to one you do like if you get it & don’t like it.

Sure, just giving my opinion, we’ll go with what the majority or lumintop decides

Oh, I understand & totally agree with your thinking of what & why we will end up with what we do. :+1:
But at least there is the option to change it out if one desires.

[Texas_Ace]

@liteupmynite

@Texas_Ace

@severide

@Texas_Ace

I just talked to Lumintop and the GT70 Cool white sale will be going live this week if all goes well. The Neutral White version is still a few weeks away. Some other good news is I talked them into going ahead and giving us the 300 person price of $220 instead of $225 even though we only have 250 people signed up. As soon as they send me the order link I will post in here and start the process of getting the emails sent. Still not 100% sure how I am going to handle the emails. Never really had a need to send 250 emails directly before, always had a service in the past for this type of thing.

Wow, this is happening a lot faster than I thought! Do you know if they decided to go with the 4000K NW or are they still trying to source the 3A N4 bin?

Thats the idea with group buys I run from now on, quick and to the point. I don’t care for long drawn out group buys as either the buyer or seller. The neutral white has not been settled yet, they are still trying to source the LED’s. They can get the 4000k quickly but the 5000k is a lot harder and will be 1 bin lower output. More people want 5000k though. The decision is pretty much in the lumintop bosses hands at this point, I have not heard anything more so far.

Hi Texas_Ace, do you have an estimate on how many lumens that the NW will lose as compared to the CW? I may want to change mine to CW if it’s a significant loss in lumens for the NW.

It depends on if they go with the 4000k P2 or the 5000k N4 LED.

The 4000k P2 should have basically the same lumens minus the lux meter bias.

The 5000k N4 should have around 7% lower lumens.

[Texas_Ace]

@JorisFRST

I might pass on this one if we’re not getting the 4k NW, the 5K is a bit too close to the CW my idea ?

Edited to add we had some thunderstorms last night and I feel a Warm White version would better cope with that then even the NW.

The tint has not been decided yet, it is a 50/50 toss up at this point if I had to guess between the 4000k vs 5000k. They have to import the 5000k which adds a lot of complications and cost that are also factoring into things here.

[yclongthrow]

Has the temperature for the cool white been determined? Any idea of the specific bin and estimated lumen output?

I apologize if this has already been answered. I see in the main post that cool white was to be 5700k+ but not much beyond that.

Thanks

[teacher]

@yclongthrow

Has the temperature for the cool white been determined? Any idea of the specific bin and estimated lumen output?

I apologize if this has already been answered. I see in the main post that cool white was to be 5700k+ but not much beyond that.

Thanks

The below is from post #1. I guess the part about the NW can be ignored as it is still unsure.

7-18-18 – The Neutral White and Cool White LED’s have been found! I am going to see if a warmer tint could also be made an option but no promises. We will have the option of either:

Cool white 1A 6000k P2 bin XHP70.2
Neutral White 3A 5000k N4 Bin XHP70.2

[Texas_Ace]

@teacher

@yclongthrow

Has the temperature for the cool white been determined? Any idea of the specific bin and estimated lumen output?

I apologize if this has already been answered. I see in the main post that cool white was to be 5700k+ but not much beyond that.

Thanks

The below is from post #1. I guess the part about the NW can be ignored as it is still unsure.

7-18-18 – The Neutral White and Cool White LED’s have been found! I am going to see if a warmer tint could also be made an option but no promises. We will have the option of either:

Cool white 1A 6000k P2 bin XHP70.2
Neutral White 3A 5000k N4 Bin XHP70.2

Good point, I updated the OP to remove the NW LED.

[teacher]

@Texas_Ace

Good point, I updated the OP to remove the NW LED.

Excellent…… :+1:

A quick question…. According to the ’Handy Dandy Tint Chart’, isn’t 1A actually 6500K rather than 6000K?? Or is the XHP70.2 rated differently?

’Handy Dandy Tint Chart’

[Kingjohn]

@hazG

@Kingjohn

I have recently change the amount to 2 GT70s. But the statistics still only shows one GT70. So maybe we get 1 more just by correcting that error…

FYI, not sure why you think your upadated amount is not showing. From what I can see you changed your Qtys on July 30 and you now have 2 GT70s.

OK, perfect.
My fault.
I thought, that near my name two numbers would show up….

Thanks for clearing up!

[Texas_Ace]

@teacher

@Texas_Ace

Good point, I updated the OP to remove the NW LED.

Excellent…… :+1:

A quick question…. According to the ’Handy Dandy Tint Chart’, isn’t 1A actually 6500K rather than 6000K?? Or is the XHP70.2 rated differently?

’Handy Dandy Tint Chart’

I am not sure why I thought it was 6000k come to think of it.

[severide]

Thanks TA. I have a feeling they’ll just go with the 4000K since it’s the path with least resistance. lol

[teacher]

@Texas_Ace

@teacher

@Texas_Ace

Good point, I updated the OP to remove the NW LED.

Excellent…… :+1:

A quick question…. According to the ’Handy Dandy Tint Chart’, isn’t 1A actually 6500K rather than 6000K?? Or is the XHP70.2 rated differently?

’Handy Dandy Tint Chart’

I am not sure why I thought it was 6000k come to think of it.

OK thanks… no big deal, I was just kinda confused.

[yclongthrow]

Cree only lists a P2 1a as 6000k, no p2 option at 6500k. I could be misunderstanding or have old info.

[teacher]

@yclongthrow

Cree only lists a P2 1a as 6000k, no p2 option at 6500k. I could be misunderstanding or have old info.

I hope you are right. :+1: P2 6000k would be nice!!

[Gj1 (Gj)]

@Texas_Ace

@severide

@Texas_Ace

I just talked to Lumintop and the GT70 Cool white sale will be going live this week if all goes well. The Neutral White version is still a few weeks away.

Some other good news is I talked them into going ahead and giving us the 300 person price of $220 instead of $225 even though we only have 250 people signed up.

As soon as they send me the order link I will post in here and start the process of getting the emails sent. Still not 100% sure how I am going to handle the emails. Never really had a need to send 250 emails directly before, always had a service in the past for this type of thing.

Wow, this is happening a lot faster than I thought! Do you know if they decided to go with the 4000K NW or are they still trying to source the 3A N4 bin?

Thats the idea with group buys I run from now on, quick and to the point. I don’t care for long drawn out group buys as either the buyer or seller.

The neutral white has not been settled yet, they are still trying to source the LED’s. They can get the 4000k quickly but the 5000k is a lot harder and will be 1 bin lower output. More people want 5000k though.

The decision is pretty much in the lumintop bosses hands at this point, I have not heard anything more so far.

Do you have good numbers for 4000K vs 5000K preference? The poll only asked < 3000K, 4000-5500K, or >5700K.
I would much prefer 4000K myself, especially if it would be a higher bin than the 5000K.

[Texas_Ace]

@Gj

@Texas_Ace

@severide

@Texas_Ace

I just talked to Lumintop and the GT70 Cool white sale will be going live this week if all goes well. The Neutral White version is still a few weeks away.

Some other good news is I talked them into going ahead and giving us the 300 person price of $220 instead of $225 even though we only have 250 people signed up.

As soon as they send me the order link I will post in here and start the process of getting the emails sent. Still not 100% sure how I am going to handle the emails. Never really had a need to send 250 emails directly before, always had a service in the past for this type of thing.

Wow, this is happening a lot faster than I thought! Do you know if they decided to go with the 4000K NW or are they still trying to source the 3A N4 bin?

Thats the idea with group buys I run from now on, quick and to the point. I don’t care for long drawn out group buys as either the buyer or seller.

The neutral white has not been settled yet, they are still trying to source the LED’s. They can get the 4000k quickly but the 5000k is a lot harder and will be 1 bin lower output. More people want 5000k though.

The decision is pretty much in the lumintop bosses hands at this point, I have not heard anything more so far.

Do you have good numbers for 4000K vs 5000K preference? The poll only asked < 3000K, 4000-5500K, or >5700K.
I would much prefer 4000K myself, especially if it would be a higher bin than the 5000K.

Well, it is more based on past numbers of sales from other lights. The lions share of the tints are usually ~5000k with 6000k+ coming in second and ~4000k coming in a distant 3rd.

In this particular case I think 4000k and 5000k are much more closely matched but lumintop is going off past sales as the basis for saying 5000k is more popular. It is hard to argue with the numbers from past sales.

The best outcome would be to offer both tints, which is something I keep asking about but they are worried about the group buy getting too complicated and sending the wrong tint. After the CW sales are out of the way I might be able to talk them into it though.

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[Kingjohn]

@Texas_Ace

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The best outcome would be to offer both tints, which is something I keep asking about but they are worried about the group buy getting too complicated and sending the wrong tint. After the CW sales are out of the way I might be able to talk them into it though.

Yes, please talk them into selling a 4k version!
4k is perfect for this thrower!

I will take one 6k version and in case they offer a 4k, I’ll order a second one later!

5k with lower output would be a nogo…
(Even if it’s just 7%)

[teacher]

@Texas_Ace

Well, it is more based on past numbers of sales from other lights. The lions share of the tints are usually ~5000k with 6000k+ coming in second and ~4000k coming in a distant 3rd.

In this particular case I think 4000k and 5000k are much more closely matched but lumintop is going off past sales as the basis for saying 5000k is more popular. It is hard to argue with the numbers from past sales.

I can understand Lumintop’s train of thought concerning this.

Even in the BLF Poll posted below it is somewhat that way.

Even if you took the 4500K results & divided them in half… giving one half to 4000K & the other half to 5000k …. the 5000k runs away with it.

And this is a BLF Poll.
Do this poll among ’average customers’, ; showing pictures of each tint and I dare say 4000K would not be a contender at all & 6000K would soar.

My.02. ymmv
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