- The Fake-Cree LED Awareness Thread - The new "low" in Budget lights.

Flashlight Modding and DIY Parts
581

Thank you. It says [something]ticeBri[something] in the picture, below the heatsink or whatever it is, so most likely is a lattice bright, unless there are also fakes of the LB. :-/

582

This image clearly shows a Genuine LB

A los uruguayos todos los dĆ­as nos venden gato por libreā€¦ tuvimos uno de Presidenteā€¦

583

They did a horrible job on centering that LED too. :smiley:

584

Hello Iā€™m new here, I accidentally found this forum on google search and Iā€™m very happy because this forum exist.
My English is not at best level so I canā€™t understand well how you managed to know whether the led inside flash is genuine Cree or copy.

I have many, many flashlights and everything that I bought the seller said that they are CREE XML-T6, but I doubt in that, Iā€™m only sure for one lamp that is genuine Cree because it is much bigger from other and I can see on the panel that write CREE.

So here are pictures with numbers and if someone who good knows the difference can help it will be great !

1. http://i.imgur.com/6g7e6hl.jpg

  • for this one I think that is real CREE ? When I buy it write XML-T6, but you can see that below is write XML-U2

2. http://i.imgur.com/ia1vvPJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MDyMkDW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/E3RELna.jpg

  • this is head lamp with how to write 3x XML-T6, this is in middle that is written on the board CREE XML, and two other on the side, I donā€™t know here, it is write CREE XML, but I canā€™t know it is CREE or not ?

3. http://i.imgur.com/koGPECJ.jpg

  • some flashlight allegedly CREE XML-T6

4. http://i.imgur.com/WbHp6uy.jpg

  • some flashlight allegedly CREE XML-T6

5. http://i.imgur.com/nbiLjmS.jpg

  • some flashlight allegedly CREE XML-T6

6. http://i.imgur.com/n7xxZEK.jpg

  • some flashlight allegedly CREE XML-T6

7. http://i.imgur.com/1t44D7k.jpg

  • some flashlight allegedly CREE XML-T6

8. http://i.imgur.com/KgZcmUC.jpg

  • some flashlight allegedly CREE XML-T6

9. http://i.imgur.com/1qYxmn0.jpg

  • some flashlight allegedly CREE XML-T6
585

1 the die is correct size star is ok

2 die looks too small

6 7 ?

3 4 5 8 9 not XML the die is too small

and welcome to BLF!

586

Welcome to BLF! :slight_smile:

1. - is a CREE genuine XM-L
2. - Latticebright (fake XM-L clone)
3. - Latticebright (fake XM-L clone)
4. - Latticebright (fake XM-L clone)
5. - Latticebright (fake XM-L clone, with horribly off center die on the substrate)
6. - Latticebright (fake XM-L clone)
7. - Latticebright (fake XM-L clone)
8. - Latticebright (or other fake XM-L clone)
9. - Latticebright (or other fake XM-L clone)

number 1. looks like the only real Cree XM-L in those photos.

587

Has anyone looked at these up close?

they say they have XPE2, XPG2 and XTE, four emitters per 20-mm board. If theyā€™ve been used by modders, Iā€™ve missed them entirely.

588

That looks interesting. Any links to sellers?

589

Click the picture, the link behind it is to an eBay listing and there are more ā€œlike thatā€ at the bottom of the listing page

(when you post an image here using the ā€œsunsetā€ button (icon above), it allows you the option of giving a link to go behind the image)

590

Looks interesting; they have them available in UV, among other colors. I may pick one of those up to make a 4x emitter UV light in a compact sizeā€¦

591

I recieved a bikelight with fake Cree LEDs.

https://www.fasttech.com/p/4036701

I have notified Cree, waiting to hear their postion on this.

592

sad days indeed. question for you and others:
lightmalls is selling ultrafire c8 with claimed xpl v5 emitters. see link

what do you think the possibility these are fakesā€¦.
they also claim to be driven at 3.0 ampsā€¦??
i dont have any yet because lighalls is screwing me around on the shipping.

593

Definitely a fake. Also that must have a horrible bluish tint with that weak looking phosphor coating.

594

!https://www.dropbox.com/s/711oe78af5o4jiy/IMG_20160302_094254.jpg?dl=0!

Would like to know what you experts think of this LED, only cost me a few quid so I expect it to be fake. Reasonable copy though.

595

That looks to be a fake Cree XP-E only because there is an unusual ā€œringā€ around the dome base on the substrate on that one, not seen on any real Cree LEDs before that i know of, though there are features of that one that real XP-E leds have, but it looks a bit off.

596

Square bond wire padsā€¦

It is a Genuine Fake

597

Thanks for that guys , I am new to the forum but I am a dedicated budget flashlight buyer. I have bought a few LED lensers, cheap ones, romison duel purpose flashlight which was uv & Cree, thrunight t10 and a few sky wolf Chinese 18650 flashlights. To be truthful I have been happy with all of them but I do use the cheapo Chinese ones the most. I am sorry for the intro on this thread.All my lights are Ā£20 and under but my favorite are the cheapo Ā£2 sky wolfs, fake leds but do the job extremely well.

598

Your welcome. and welcome to the BLF forums :slight_smile:
The biggest problems with the fake/clone/latticebright LEDs are the low efficiency, (output versus amp-draw) low tolerances, bad QC, and in may cases horrible tint with very low CRI.

599

[quote=DBSAR]

It dosenā€™t have a bluish tint, beam is white. I suspect it is heavily under driven, as it is rated @ 4900 lumen, and I would be very suprised if it is doing 40% of what they rate it at.

600

[quote=OneBadWolf]

4900 actual lumens is far exaggerated for that. in a measuring Sphere it would be lucky to reach 1500 - 1800 stock.