Those do look like genuine Cree XM-L2s.
interestingly we have not seen or head of finding many of the Latticebright “XM” clones of the Cree XM-L2 leds in flashlights yet that we can do a direct comparison to, but so far the most identifiable difference on this series is the corner dot on the substrate. (base) and on Cree XM-L2s the corner dot is round.(As on your sample photos) On Latticebrights clone it is square, as seen in this pic on their website: >> http://www.latticebright.com/En/cpzs1/2016-01/21/NewsView-283.html
Also the silver layer seems to be separated by a line on the LB, where on the Cree there is no line.
@MeTAG52 welcome, nice first post man!
vidramon this is tricky it looks pretty genuine but I am not 100% sure, it is not as obviously fake as most LB leds.
I send the seller from which I got the review sample with fake Cree a message and he said that the factory says that it is a original cree…
Hopefully this is the last time. I know this is another fake, but to exercise due dilligence, could I have another opinion or two please?
Fake 99,999999999999%
101% fake. That one even looks worse than most of the LB fakes, pale phosphor covering even the bond wires, tiny die, etc.
Yet another Fasttech delight. Super blue color, maybe 200 lumens.
Advertised as: Cree XM-L T6 5-Mode 1000-Lumen Zooming LED Flashlight
Light Sources
Light Source BIN T6
Light Source Brand Cree
Light Source Model XM-L
Lumens (Max) 1000 LM
https://www.fasttech.com/p/1206400
I will never buy a another light there again. To add further insult, they lowered the price after I bought it. That is three fakes misrepresented as Crees in a row. The second, was supposed to replace the first. They assured me that the replacement was authentic. 11 days now, and Fasttech Customer Circus has not even replied.
I don’t understand why nobody holds them accountable.
@DBSAR, thanks !
You have good eye and perfect knowledge.
Between banggood, gearbest, and fasttech, I think banggood has been the best at removing Cree from their flashlight specs. I did a random check of some cheapo lights that use Cree names, like XM-L or XP-E, and none of those lights had Cree on their spec pages.
Another example, it´s a SkyRay from GB advertised as “SkyRay Cree XML T6 8400Lm”:
Definitely 7 fake Cree LEDs.
K.
Indeed, all Latticebright fakes.
I can confirm that the led of this 1200Lm CREE XML T6 Outdoor LED Headlamp *( it’s produced by Luckysun, but products and package don’t including the brand name )
USB Cable version (link is external) is a “cute LB”. I bought one, received it about a week ago, cold white no-blueish. It was a good deal at $5.89.
Now none mention to CREE
Interesting the Die is twisted on the LED.
Definitely a LB fake Cree XM-L. ( not the first i seen either with the die “slapped” on the substrate squish.
Now if they would only seize & shut down Latticebright for copying Cree Leds. One problem here though, for every copy/clone manufacturer that is caught in China, another 1000 would surface to take its place.
They continue to write ‘XML’ for these crappy light.
remeber that not mean get a real Cree light
but often LB fakes
Do you own it, or you find a picture on the internet ?
If own, how bright is it ? What is max range ?
Thing is Latticebright don’t market them as Cree’s, they have their own website with all their LED’s shown & spec’d accurately last time I looked on it.
Its the manufacturers of the light that falsely sell them as Cree’s.
I have an old light marked as a Cree which has a LB LED in it, its not a bad light for the price really, way better than the supermarket lights selling for the same sort of price, LB’s probably have a market place of their own in budget lights in which they perform ok for the price paid.
Just my own view trying to take have a neutral take on things.
Somebody posted a link on BLF about a year ago that stated that CREE was going to start using someone else’s emitters in their own CREE branded home light bulbs. And that were going to concentrate on just the high performance emitter market. Does anyone know of that link?
I would assume the high performance emitter market would be the CREE emitters we are most familiar with.