Troubleshooting a D25LR

The reason I opened this up is it was getting hot while it was off so I was looking for a short. If there are any other possible reasons I’m all ears.

For context I do not have technical knowledge about electronics but have itchy fingers. I have a D25LR and a D10. The D25LR seems to have a shorted capacitor. I looked at the PCBs of both lights and the capacitor seems similar enough and in the same place for me to think it could just be a simple swap.

Is there a better approach for this or a way to test the capacitors value/capacity? I only have a soldering iron and a DMM if that matters. How high is the risk of this malfunctioning while it’s on my head?

Top D25LR, suspected shorted capacitor is C3 at the bottom
Bottom D10

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Besides type and form-factor, you need to also match the capacitance; it should be written on the part itself, but from the pic I can’t see it; perhaps asking the flashlight manufacturer?

If you can’t obtain it from them, then perhaps an approximate value would serve; I know there are rules-of-thumb for choosing a capacitor’s value depending on the circuit, but my more specific knowledge is long out of date and was never flashlight-specific to begin with, but perhaps one of the electronics wizards here (@thefreeman, @gchart and possibly others) could help you.

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Did you check the short with your dmm in resistance mode ?
If it’s indeed shorted then replace it with a 1uF >=6.3V 0805 x7r/x5r MLCC. Or you can take it from the other board if you do ’t need it.

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C3 is for MCU +IN. Its about 1uf. Replace it with any same size cap from similar low voltage application broken device. Anyway it should work without it

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It beeps continuously in the continuity mode so I assumed it’s shorted. The D10 one just lets out a short beep then stops.

I’ll try and find a replacement part where I know the value before getting from the donor board.

Thanks everyone!

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I tried to remove the capacitor and it seems to be fine after all. The pads on the other hand are shorted for some reason. I guess I need to look elsewhere. Any tips are greatly appreciated. All I can think of right now is throwing this in the oven for a reflow.

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Have you checked D3?

Both leads on each end of D3 Seems fine.

With one lead on B- I went through everything here is where the DMM beeped.

Other than that DMM beeped at both ends of the capacitor and what I assume is the MCU’s top left and right legs

MCU’s probably dead.

IME it’s problematic(*) to test components soldered to a circuit as the rest of the circuit interferes with the measurements, as already happened when you first tested C3. I know it’s a PITA, but it’s better to desolder D3 and then test it.

(*) unless you do it at specific test points put there for that purpose by the manufacturer and with the expected test values (generally voltages) indicated.

EDIT: @thefreeman posted while I was editing this; in the general case my advice holds, but re: flashlights you better listen to him.

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That’s disappointing. I haven got to use this much. Thanks.

I’ll see if I can. It was challenging to remove C3 awhile ago. Had me wishing I had a hot air gun.

I removed stock d10-25 drivers and replaced with custom ones, I still have few oem drivers left laying around, if you are in USA I can mail you some. thou i’m not sure how to tell them apart, d10 from d25.

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Thats a 2 channel driver with red led. He would need to replace red with same white.

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Thanks for the offer but unfortunately not in USA. The D10 driver I have above is also working and does not encounter the short. I might actually just swap it and turn it to a somewhat d25s light just so it is functioning. Sad about losing the 2 channel though.

Do I need to remove the resistors on the LED PCB to turn the other LED white? Guess I need to bridge those if I removed them right?

Yes.

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