I usually agree with you , not so much this time . If more people did the right thing there would be a lot less of this scumbag crap happening. You seem to be harassing this man for taking the time to right a wrong .
I’d expect that if you took photos of the knife, both sides, deployed and retracted, and disassembled, they’d be able to tell you right away if you had fake… so, no sending in the knife on your dime. I think BM has an ulterior motive—to get the fake out of someone’s hands.
I would just send photos, and keep the counterfeit for comparison with the real one if I can buy it later.
In this case, BM should at least send the owner of the counterfeit a discount coupon for the purchase of its real (better?) knife. 
An unused Gerber LST was gifted to me today by an old hiking buddy. Cool little knife …was when it first came out, is now.
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It’s really nice. I haven’t really put it through it’s paces yet. I’d buy a few more if the wife would let me. 
Oh and by the way. You can’t buy a known knock off and then bitch about the outcoume. JSRN.
Hah? Who’s “harassing” anyone? I’m wondering if I missed anything, as it sounds like a raw deal.
If there were anything I missed (eg, store credit, “buyback”, etc.), then even if you lose out on shipping, you’re still not taking a bath on the entire amount you spent.
And let’s face it, buying a light, knife, camera, etc., at “less than retail” price usually means something suspicious is afoot. Even if it’s “gray market”, you still keep the goodie, but won’t have warranty service, etc. But to walk into a store with your new whatever, asking, “Hey, is this legit or a fake?”, and being told, “It’s fake… and we’re confiscating it, now get out.”, whoa!, not cool.
That’s why I’m wondering if people know what they’re walking into if they go that particular route. I’m wondering if it’s a case of, “What? No, nooooo!, you misunderstood. Yeah, they confiscate it, but you get a credit for X, or pay the diff and get the real thing, etc.” That way, yeah, you “do the right thing”, but don’t take a bath on it.
Especially if we’re talking ~100bux a pop. That’s nothing to sneeze at.
So, yeah. That’s why I’m asking. I want to be damned sure that what I’m understanding happens, actually happens, and there’s nothing I’m missing. And apparently, yeah, that seems to be the case.
Hey, anyone wants to DTRT, more power to ya. Faced with having a 100buk doodad be taken from me… mmm, “right thing” or not, I’d have to seriously think about it. (Mfr takes a bogus item out of commission, seller keep my bux (and keeps selling), I’d be the only one who gets the raw deal, it seems. “No good deed…” and all that.)
It’s… surprising.
Ever see a bank take counterfeit money and just give you back real money ?
Exactly.
Sad, but that’s what it is …
- This is not money. Money hardly has any use other than to pay for stuff.
- This knife was his property. He paid for this with his own money. After this knife was certified as fake it was between him and the selling platform to settle their deal. The knife maker was not a side to all this and I fail to see what right they have to seize the owner’s property. But IANAL, maybe they do have the right to do this.
But….maybe asking the knife maker to get the knife back would just work?
Knife fanatics—what does “fidgety” mean?
To me, it has a nice enough action that you just play with it a la a fidget-spinner.
My go,comma PF clone was/is like that. Just had a nice nice feel to it.
Thanks LB, that makes sense. I repeatedly saw the term on reviews of a Gerber knife and I realized I had no idea what it meant.
Finch Drifter
My first Two Sun TS190
Case 63090 SS Stockman 2012
Eafengrow 934 in Black G10
Observations:
- Handle scales could have been textured more and the shape could be more refined. But it doesn’t have any sharp edges and I didn’t expect perfection for $25
- Blade tip is very fine. It probably wouldn’t hold up to much abuse but I don’t plan to abuse it. If you’re just cutting stuff the fine tip might come in handy for detail work.
- Only real design flaw is probably that the screws that hold the pocket clip might get in the way if your pocket material is too thick. I didn’t have problems with my jeans but I could see some work pants might interfere. The screws should be flat heads tightened into recesses, not just sitting proud on top of the clip.
- I have no idea how this brand is going to hold up in terms of durability. This is my first Eafengrow.
Spyderco M4 Lil Native Compression Lock
Nice choice! I like the smooth “arc” of the blade spine to the scales on the M4. Finger grooves also look to be nicely done. This is where a smallish blade can really be so very useful for so many different tasks. Where’d you pick up yours? Get a holiday deal on it?
Picked this one up from BladeHQ … exclusive now sold out.
Great knife.
Historically, Eafengrow has a terrible record for false steel stamps. Effectively, you could count on their “D2” to be 8Cr13Mov if you are lucky and possibly 5Cr15 if you’re not. They’ve claimed to be working on changing that and a few recent knives did test as D2, but it’s still a crap shoot.
My take is to avoid them like the plague. The more generous position taken by LTK (who does the testing) would be that $26.99 or whatever is still a fair price for 8Cr13Mov if nothing else is wrong with the knife. While there might be some merit to that, it wouldn’t hold water if you drew the short end with 5Cr15. Chinese D2 has also come down in price. For instance, Ganzo and Petrified Fish use real D2 around that price and you don’t have to wonder. Ganzo does an okay heat treatment and PF does a good heat treatment.
If you aren’t sure, have a satin blade, and don’t mind risking a stain; you can always do a mustard test. I did that to confirm the D2 on a Sitivien ST103, which is another good budget knife for around the same price.
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