What optics does Led Lenser use and where can you get them from?

I know they are TIR optics and I’ve bought some from FastTech and others in the past, but none seem to be like the optics LL used and none throw they same.

Any idea where I can some optics like LL use?

Considering that LedLenser have the patent on those, it seems that the design are hard to come by.

Do you know how POPlite optics compare? They seems to be a Chinese Led Lenser copy..

Maybe try and contact them for cheap optics??

This one is flat-out awesome, better than any similar ~20mm dia reflector.

http://intl-outdoor.com/2-pcs-cree-xml-led-optic-10-degrees-p-474.html

RaceR is right, the design is patent protected and probably isn’t available.

http://www.ledlenser.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-leatherman-Site/en_US/Technology-Start

The design is different from a TIR.

LED-lenser-modular-diagram

LED LENSER The Revolution of Light Eng

None of the lens your all linking to are in any way similar to Led Lenser.

See here for converting lights like the Convoy S3 into something useful: https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/22371

It throws better than a reflector the same size, but you might be a bit disappointed if you're expecting a laser tight beam or something.

Also, it reduces the spill, but not completely. The spill probably ends up being 30-45 degrees wide depending on how you define the cutoff. It's hard to measure because the edges fade away instead of cutting off suddenly.

The beam ends up looking a lot like this LINK.

I have the Carclo 20mm 10003 & 26mm 10048, both have that nasty square die image artifact even using unmodified holders (so it's not that I screwed up the focus), I won't even consider using them in anything. The IOS 10* is beautiful. Small spot with a very sharp edge, nice even corona with a very soft edge, and very little outer spill.

Oooh, yeah, I should have mentioned that. I hope I didn't give the wrong impression.

I used the Carclo image as an example of the general proportion of the spill compared to the hotspot. I didn't mean to suggest that the IOS PMMA optic had that square die projection that Carclo polycarb optics are known for. Sorry, I should have been clearer about that.

comfy, are these different to the various 5deg ones sold on dx etc?

Don't know, but most of them on the 'cheap' sites either have no holder, or are made to fit the old 1W/3W LEDs. I'd be shocked if any of them matched what that 10* can do.

Oh no, I wasn't correcting you, just adding more info. :)

No it's alright. My post could have been misleading, and you were right to point it out. I didn't mind.