Well, that kind of went from a “you shouldn’t buy another P60 drop-in” conversation to a debate about the relevancy of P60’s (more entertaining/edifying). I don’t really need someone to tell me whether I should or shouldn’t get another drop-in; I already dropped enough info to show I know enough to be a big boy. But since apparently there’s concern I might waste my money, well, my old highly-customized 502b is still one of my favorite lights. It’s usually not the first light I grab, but it’s my defensive light. I really put the works to it, including a fancy momentary/twisty forward switch with no electronics other thn a solid piece of brass. It’s the light I can turn on or off in a flash. I don’t run on high more than a few seconds, usually.
When I play cop in my home, that’s my light.
Interesting re the staying power of P60s. They may be “obsolete”, but they are useful to many, and will still be around when the current stuff is gone… some may even think superior. Kind of like photographic film… if not, then like Windows XP.
I like the idea of having a (probably final) P60 drop-in that’s built totally, exactly the way I want it. It would be double price of Mtn’s pre-made ones, but then again it’s not a $140 XHP70 drop-in (and yes, you can buy those!). This is making it mine, continuing the theme of this highly customized, defensive light, and let’s face it, P60s make for good defensive lights.
Oh oh… and I was hanging out with a friend who had a buddy over (who apparently makes plenty of money)… neither flashlight enthusiasts. After I showed off my MT-G2, the buddy tried to play show & tell with his EDC light (I’m sure he didn’t know the term “EDC”, though). He said it was a Streamlight. I looked at it. It was a surefire type design, P60, with XM-L and forward clicky (actually a nice, unexpected switch). Frankly, it was quite nice for a “gentile” light (If I can use that term!); very powerful for a storebought light, good throw and spill (I didn’t have mine to compare), except it might have been plastic (can’t remember now). The only thing is, he said he paid about $100 bucks for it. AND it didn’t required two CR123s—I’ll say NON-RECHARGEABLES are TRULY obsolete! [ok someone’ll disagree w/me]). My 18650 did not fit in, and the guy expressed no interest when I mentioned the possibilities of rechargeables, only boasting about how long it last. (As you might tell, he was a “set in his ways, don’t need to know, already knows all he needs to know” type of guy—on all subjects.) I did not tell them that I had paid about half that for my MT-G2, and they didn’t ask. The ‘buddy’ did not know what a P60 was, and did not want me to open the light to show him the drop-in. He had no interest. To him, it was just a cool, quality, tacticool EDC light, mainly defensive (in addition to his other EDC thing I also got to inspect). OH, he proudly showed off the strobe, and talked about how in “training” somewhere he (or someone he knows) were taught to use strobe to disorient someone just briefly enough to take a better shot, if needed. I told him to shine the strobe in my eyes; he did. I told him ‘I’d have no problems tackling you right now, but the strobe might make me more pissed off.’ But yeah, that might surprise someone for 0.5 seconds, which may be enough to get the upper hand.
So apparently the world of gentile lights is about 5 years behind. People are just catching up to P60s, but at least they’re XM-L’s. Cops still use them (apparently). Therefore others will continue to use them.
. At least he still offers P60 build service. I don’t have time for flaslight modding these days so it’s nice someone can put these together for me with me still choosing the parts.