Zooming Model List (2018 Updated) Tell us about your newest zoomie!

Newlumen · February 11, 2018, 11:24pm

I will order my jaxman z1 xhp50 after chinese new year which is feb 25. They should have more stock by them…

Have you guy check out a wowtac a3?? Look like this light is easy to mod, swapping a new led and new driver…

beam0 · February 12, 2018, 12:05am

Yes as I just said at the end of my post above I’m looking at getting the newer upgraded version (A3S) It already has XPL-HI emitter. Also reported to have better zooming slider.

Only we have yet to learn why the A3S is no longer listed for sale currently. I sent inquiry to wowtac but haven’t heard back yet, but as you said the Chinese holiday has started so it may be a while before we find out.

Check this thread: Wowtac A3S - Anyone see it yet?

beam0 · February 12, 2018, 12:36am

XHP50 zooming light with 3.0cm travel

53mm head / 5000-5900K / 2-mode low-High

Low price - currently $23.88 w/shipping

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(click on photo for link - Aliexpress)

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Funner · February 12, 2018, 12:33pm

I like the XHP50 in MTN-1504 and the Jaxman Z1. Does anyone have experience with either of these two?
I have a couple of T6 $7.00 Amazon zoomers and for what they are they are neat and useable at short distances. The kids love them.
Also are there any XHP70 zoomies?

The monster flood with these lights is the most appealing part.

mmalive · February 12, 2018, 7:40pm

How about this one guys? I picked up a pair. The only reason is there was coupon making $10 each.

https://www.harborfreight.com/588-lumen-tactical-flashlight-63934.html!

beam0 · February 14, 2018, 12:35am

I love HFT!

…At least you didn’t pay more than $10 :
https://www.gearbest.com/led-flashlights/pp_956144.html

https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10038821/8426800-1-led-5-mode-1000lm-led-flashlight-w-focus-zoom

And here: Only $3.90 shipped!

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I guess you have to watch the video >>> LumiTact G700 "TOUGHEST FLASHLIGHT ON THE MARKET"

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Mike_C · February 14, 2018, 12:13pm

I forgot all about this, sorry. I’ll check tonight when I get home.

I have the one I linked, the brown one, the UlfraFire, one I bought from Banggood and another from AliExpress. They all have small differences, and I don’t remember exactly which models have what features. The one thing that is consistent is beam width, which is most important to me.

The FastTech one I linked to has a solid pill, I think the brown one is identical to it, not sure so I’ll have to check tonight. The Banggood one has a hollow pill. Pill sizes are a little different, and tailcap assembly is different. At least one model was a pain to disassemble the tailcap with jammed in plastic, on at least one it was fine with metal retaining ring easily unscrewing. See post #43 in my MT-G2 mod thread below for some differences on tailcaps.

20mm driver is correct, but if I remember correctly it’s a 20mm LED MCPCB too, or it’s different on different models. I’ll check tonight. I replace driver, LED, switch and also fill up some space in the large pills. I used to use washers and JB-Weld but now I have excellent high quality custom copper spacers that kiriba-ru made for me.

I built one with an MT-G2 for a friend but didn’t use a boost driver. I went with two 18350 cells instead: Mod: Zoomie with MT-G2

I think you got it with that one you found, but as there are differences with these hosts I’ll measure it tonight.

You got it right with that Supfire F11-T. That one and the Warsun look like they are worth ordering for evaluation.

I use these zoomies for underground photgraphy and sometimes as focused floodlights when climbing outside during the dark winter evenings after work. Someone pointed out that the beam is ringy on the edges of the zoomies I use. That maybe so on a white wall but I couldn’t care less as it makes no difference for my usage. Do you see any rings in these photos?

Funner · February 14, 2018, 12:21pm

Mike C:

raccoon city:

Do you know if that zoomie comes in a non-disco flavor?

I forgot all about this, sorry. I’ll check tonight when I get home.

beam0:

I see fasttech also has it in brown color too… Do you think this UltraFire is the same flashlight? (looks exactly the same)

I have the one I linked, the brown one, the UlfraFire, one I bought from Banggood and another from AliExpress. They all have small differences, and I don’t remember exactly which models have what features. The one thing that is consistent is beam width, which is most important to me.

The FastTech one I linked to has a solid pill, I think the brown one is identical to it, not sure so I’ll have to check tonight. The Banggood one has a hollow pill. Pill sizes are a little different, and tailcap assembly is different. At least one model was a pain to disassemble the tailcap with jammed in plastic, on at least one it was fine with metal retaining ring easily unscrewing. See post #43 in my MT-G2 mod thread below for some differences on tailcaps.

beam0:

If you don’t mind would you please post a quick rundown of your mods on these? I read it uses a 16mm mcpcb and driver shelf is 20mm?

20mm driver is correct, but if I remember correctly it’s a 20mm LED MCPCB too, or it’s different on different models. I’ll check tonight. I replace driver, LED, switch and also fill up some space in the large pills. I used to use washers and JB-Weld but now I have excellent high quality custom copper spacers that kiriba-ru made for me.

beam0:

Also, I’m wondering what would be involved to put an MT-G2 in one. (running at 3A)

I built one with an MT-G2 for a friend but didn’t use a boost driver. I went with two 18350 cells instead: Mod: Zoomie with MT-G2

beam0:

What’s the sliding distance of the un-branded favorite one you linked? I couldn’t find that on the FT listing.

I think you got it with that one you found, but as there are differences with these hosts I’ll measure it tonight.

beam0:

And you mentioned the Warsun, but I didn’t see the sliding travel on that one either on Banggood?

You got it right with that Supfire F11-T. That one and the Warsun look like they are worth ordering for evaluation.

I use these zoomies for underground photgraphy and sometimes as focused floodlights when climbing outside during the dark winter evenings after work. Someone pointed out that the beam is ringy on the edges of the zoomies I use. That maybe so on a white wall but I couldn’t care less as it makes no difference for my usage. Do you see any rings in these photos?

Mike C great pics. Are your pics for work or hobby?
They look cool, stay safe.

Mike_C · February 14, 2018, 12:53pm

Thanks. It’s all hobby… and eventually what brought me to BLF because I couldn’t find lights that were how I wanted them. I’ve posted some more photos in another thread: Exploration photos with my flashlights

luminarium_iaculator · February 14, 2018, 3:09pm

“Someone pointed out that the beam is ringy on the edges of the zoomies I use. That maybe so on a white wall but I couldn’t care less as it makes no difference for my usage. Do you see any rings in these photos?”

You are absolutely right… I guess there are lot of people that like to use flashlight indoors(white wall hunters).

When I joined here several years ago I opened a thread where I predicted that one day future flashlight will be based on zooming action and it will be very powerful in throw and flood mode. That future already came here: Acebeam W10 1000m throw EDC???

No matter how I try I can’t find usefulness of spill coming from reflector light and yet everyone is talking about useful spill here

When we turn on reflector LED light, our night vision is killed by spill light that is reflecting from nearby objects & environment. Pupil of the eye narrows and we see less. The brighter the environment is, the narrower is the pupil of the eye, so there’s a reduction in light that hits the fundus.

Aspherical type of beam has sharp borders, so there is better contrast between illuminated area and dark area. The enhanced contrast lets us to perceive objects/persons/things better. We see further in the night.

beam0 · February 14, 2018, 4:00pm

Thanks for the reply and info! Wow, nice photos!

Sounds like the Ultrafire version has a hollow pill, in that case I’ll get the one you linked from FT and hope for a solid pill.

Mike_C · February 14, 2018, 7:59pm

FastTech black, FastTech brown and Banggood “Elfeland ”have disco modes strobe and SOS.

Both FastTech have sliding distance of 2.2cm. Elfeland has 2cm.

mmalive · February 14, 2018, 9:08pm

Well, I can give insight on this light. I ended buying 2 of these. Thank goodness I opened one up to check it out. The light is ” POORLY ” built with BIG problems. Right out of package defective. The ” O ” ring split in half once zoom pull feature used for very first time. Extremely difficult to use zoom feature. Had difficult time pulling zoom head period. Also, NOWHERE NEAR 1600 lumen output as posted. My Harbor Freight Zoomie blows this one away and it is only 588 lumens. The light beam is EVEN WORSE. The hot spot is squarish with double black shadow rings. The light beam could not be focused well at all. The throw is also fabricated. No way it reached 450 Meters.

All the claims on this light are very deceptive. None of statements hold true at all. I ended returning BOTH of the ones I bought.

I highly recommend NOT BUYING this light.

beam0 · February 15, 2018, 5:54am

mmalive:

beam0:

mmalive:

Hey guys how about this 1. I just picked one up.

I zoom 1600 lumen zoomable. light. Have not had to open it. Any insight. Here’s link

Amazon.com

Nice, let us know if it runs on 9xAAA!

“Includes (9) “AAA” batteries”

Well, I can give insight on this light. I ended buying 2 of these. Thank goodness I opened one up to check it out. The light is ” POORLY ” built with BIG problems. Right out of package defective. The ” O ” ring split in half once zoom pull feature used for very first time. Extremely difficult to use zoom feature. Had difficult time pulling zoom head period. Also, NOWHERE NEAR 1600 lumen output as posted. My Harbor Freight Zoomie blows this one away and it is only 588 lumens. The light beam is EVEN WORSE. The hot spot is squarish with double black shadow rings. The light beam could not be focused well at all. The throw is also fabricated. No way it reached 450 Meters.

All the claims on this light are very deceptive. None of statements hold true at all. I ended returning BOTH of the ones I bought.

I highly recommend NOT BUYING this light.

Thanks for the warning, well at least you got it from amazon, E-Z Returns!!

Also an advantage for the Harbor Freight one as well, sure you could have got one a few bucks cheaper shipped from China (in about 4-8 weeks), but then if it didn’t work …. well …

“Since we couldn’t help you to figure it out via your description, could you please make a video showing the problem?” :rage:

beam0 · February 15, 2018, 5:58am

Thanks, I found one for $3.69 on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultrafire-CREE-XM-L-T6-Tactical-Zoomable-5000Lumen-LED-Flashlight-Torch-Lamp-NEW/132256179295?hash=item1ecb15245f:g:YogAAOSwxKtYBc6Y

But it shows “UltraFire” so probably a hollow pill, sounds like the clone from Fastech is still the best bet to get a solid pill.

beam0 · February 15, 2018, 5:59am

Ebay:

” 27,157 results for zoomable flashlight ”

beam0 · February 26, 2018, 7:28am

80mm zooming travel!

EDIT: XML-T6 version here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/powerful-led-flashlight-self-defense-zoom-lanternas-xml-t6-torch-18650-Rechargea-Battery-waterproof-lamp-penlight/32826952511.html?spm=2114.10010108.0.0.39c06a9eQ2s7ZL&traffic_analysisId=recommend_2031_2_83267_icosaw&scm=1007.12873.83267.0&pvid=7fc95530-d698-4b65-aae6-845a21101f17&tpp=1 (photo link above Q5 LED version)

Nachtfeuerzeug · February 21, 2018, 2:21am

I’ve been upgrading this light: IProtec XHP50
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This light pulls 8 amps but dims due to the stress so I run it on mid mode (~3 amps) till the voltage drops on the two 26500s to about 7.75V. It gets hot! fast!
The switch was the last component to fail but I ordered some Omten switches from Mountain Electronics. I called the company for a replacement lens (melted it in a freak circumstance) and they’re also going to send a replacement tail cap!
I like that I can run it on 9 6 AAs, 2* 18500s or 2* 26500s. The zooming mechanism is a twisting one and the flood is WOW! but it doesn’t quite zoom to a precise square. It’s actually a fairly solid host.

Mike_C · February 15, 2018, 10:23am

Agreed. Hopefully the FastTech one is still the same. I have a stash and haven’t needed to order for quite some time. It’s too bad the FastTech one doesn’t have the best tailcap though, I found the Banggood ones to have the best ones, and they where slightly larger. It looks like that Ebay one has the slightly larger tailcap. At that price I’d get a couple just to see if they are the good tailcaps, only if they shipped to Sweden.

beam0 · February 15, 2018, 3:08pm

Interesting light, where did you purchase it? Home Depo sell that brand but I didn’t see that model there. I googled “iProtect XHP50 nothing came up, then tried iProtect1400, saw it at Academy sports and BassPro ($40-$45) But the description shows: ”Runs on 6 AA batteries” And none of the listings show XHp50 or what the emitter is. (or am I looking a a different light?)

https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/iprotec-outdoorsmen-1400-flashlight

If it is the same light, what did you do to fit 9xAA instead of 6? Also the descriptions show nothing about Li-ion, so that’s something you tried on your own? Interesting about 26500, I haven’t paid attention to that size, did you find some respectable 26500 cells?

Not sure I understand exactly what mods you’ve done, are you using the stock driver? What does the added partition board do?