My Ti Tool and my Cu Tool are gonna die!
OMG! I not yet received and I am regretted. With battery welded, that is disposable
Sorry, that is a capacitor.
Exactly my thoughts. Being a Ti version, I was hoping for this to be some kind of permanent keepsake item.
While I appreciate that the flashlight is able to tail stand, I would much rather have a simple mechanical clicky switch if this is the alternative.
Would the other (Al/Cu) Tools’ switch lego with the Ti Tool?
Received fast, packaged well and operates as described.
Excellent work Rey, thank you.
You are right on 99% Dale, I may start a new thread with proper sized pics which shows how I completely tore this switch down and fought through the glue with my specially invented tool. Ha, what a job it was…
That battery is welded like you would see sheet metal workers do when building heating air ducts, if that makes sense, I have taken a small lever bit I have and pry’d up on it from the board and it seemed to be spot weld somehow underneath also, I can get a picture of that out with my handy little pocket cam, surprised I able to set the lens right on the part and get pics that close.
I’ll try and do that pic of the battery right now,
Got a few pics and while looking at one I noticed something I wouldn’t have seen had it not been for the pics macro, I was looking at the spring and noticed something so decided I’d get a pic for you guys, also decided I might as well do whatever and sacrifice my switch since I have a couple more that should be here any day now and this switch never worked right since day one, at least that’s what I thought, a real pain for what I though it was supposed to be anyhow, and it’s patented none the less, also pics of all the switch parts, and the TOOL ha ha it worked, took a month to come up with something small enough to get in that switch and strong enough to deal with the glue, along with a little heat from micro torch, mini vise and a lot of determination. Bye the way I think looking at that battery pad that it must be glued, was to easily pry’d up and the spot welds are the killer, those won’t be undone easily, wonder about a way to bypass the battery completely?? And make this into a clicky reverse, tried to put a normal tool switch in last night and their to long, almost but need to have a board like this, or drill out the other end of the body tube, I’d mentioned that once the emitter is out that copper piece, you can’t insert a battery into the body through the head end like a normal light, it only allows for a nipple from a battery eneloop to get past and connect with the emitter board…
Yes they do, but with either the Cu or Ano and big rubber switch boot it doesn’t look good, but it works good, I also had one tool that came with two end switch types, one the clicky switch and the other just a ano cap with a spring, so it’s a twisty and that was the best, but all Lumintop tool switches fit but I’m trying to find something that looks better, like a ThorFire Ti I saw with push switch end just don’t know what the threads are like and don’t want to just buy a light to look at the switch for this Ti, somebody here will come up with a fix, I’d bet money on that, this is really a low down move by Lumintop, and to promote this light as Patented Switch like it’s something real special and it’s just a problem
Edit: I have thought about using the regular tool switch with the big rubber and make a new metal switch cover the same diam as the rubber boot, that would look a little better
Wait so if I understand all this tailswitch stuff correctly, this light is designed to be disposable (or at least to have a disposable tailcap/switch assembly) and will have to be replaced at some regular interval due to it containing a non-user-serviceable extra battery hidden in there. That makes no sense. What am I missing here? Has anyone measured the current draw from that little button cell to maybe get a rough calculation of its lifetime? Is Lumintop going to send us all new tailcaps when those batteries die?
My point of view… looking and thinking from one outsider…
Because of that user non serviceable battery, inside this tail cap with glued thread, this light is designed with scheduled expiration time and leaves out of being a collectible item. If it were not for its price, in my opinion high, I had bought it as a collectible.
Luckily I did not buy it.
Take a breath. It’s a rechargable battery. Charges from the main battery.
A capacitor or battery is common in electronic switches.
See, that’s why I asked if I was missing something. I’m very familiar with seeing capacitors in these sorts of circuits but I don’t generally think of these button cell batteries as being rechargeable, but that very well may be the case here. Thank you for your input.
My Nichia model had low and two medium modes when I first installed a battery.
In an hour or so the switch battery charged up and now I have all modes.
The XP-G one worked fine right out of the box.
Just got mine in the mail today. It was acting funky when I first threw a battery in it. Had medium and two high modes, so I read through the updates to this thread, and in the twenty minutes it’s been sitting, the battery in the tailcap has charged and light has all three modes as it should. Overall the light is of excellent quality. Hard to say if I like it better than the copper version or not. Both are nice but for different reasons. My only regret is not having mine engraved.
Hey Rey. Got a light today in the mail. Looks very nice but had a question. Sent you a PM.
Then things change. I take it back.
I will not buy. I hate glued threads.
Rey already said it had a CAP that had to charge up. Nothing said anywhere about charging the battery in the smart switch. And if that were indeed the case, then there WOULD be a parasitic drain charging that cell.
The item in the switch looks like
http://www.sii.co.jp/en/me/datasheets/xh-capacitor/xh414hg/
This is a good Seiko capacitor with long cycle life.
Yeah, a good japanese capacitor will last many years without a problem. My light should be arrived today. 
Well I’ll be danged! And here I thought that was a “battery”!
Thanks for clearing that up MiG0!
(In the recesses of my dark Lizard brain something was trying to get me to relate this to the “button cell” in my Citizen Eco drive watch. Also a large capacitor that looks just like a flat watch battery. Of course, I don’t know about these things aside from trying to locate a new one for my older Citizen, so… I went full DUH!)
Interesting, much better. The Lumintop site looks pretty useless for support - didn’t see any mention of customer support, just distributor sales contact info.