Review: EagleTac D25LC2 Clicky 12-mode

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Review: EagleTac D25LC2 Clicky 12-mode

EagleTac D25LC2 Clicky 12-mode

kreisler's Overall Rating: ★★★★★

 

Summary:

Battery: 1x 18650, or 2x CR123A/RCR123/16340
Switch: Reverse clicky
Modes: 5 brightness levels + 7 blinkies
LED Type:

 for CW: XM-L U2, XP-G2 R5 or XP-G S2

 for NW: XM-L T6, or XP-G R4

Lens: Glass
Tailstands: Yes
Price Paid: 40€
From: NKON
Date Ordered: July 2012

 

Pros:

  • 10 yrs warranty from a prospering US-flashlight brand
  • emitter and tint options, premium beam
  • very bright, 550+ OTF lumens confirmed
  • #2 industry-leading efficiency and brightness stabilization, no PWM
  • immense runtimes on Turbo/Hi, immense!
  • 5 brightness levels, moonlight mode can be turned off
  • supports wide range of operating voltage
  • brightly advertised tough modern driver pun intended
  • 1-piece head design with copper direct touch technology
  • ultra compact and light-weight
  • good looks, stainless steel bezel
  • overall nice build quality, construction and fit'n finish
  • great switch
  • fast safe disassembly, lens user-replaceable
  • secure yet easily removable sturdy pocket clip, anti-roll
  • reversible pocket clip
  • reverse polarity protection
  • tailstands perfectly
  • comfortable carry breakaway lanyard ring
  • comes with quality accessories, also after-market (diffuser lens, diffuser tip, deep carry pocket clip, sheath)
  • not overpriced. fair price, affordable.

Cons:

  • too many blinky modes (my niece loves them)
  • no tactical momentary activation (impossible with 12 modes)
  • threads not anodized (for natural reasons)
  • D25C can toggle mode memory (Fenix, Quark dont have mode memory)
  • gets hot fast (because of superior thermal path)
  • production quality same as Olight or Fenix factories, i.e. not worse/better
  • like 4Sevens, Eagtac avoids complete ANSI/NEMA FL-1 Standards

 

Introduction:

According to their official website EAGTAC LLC was founded in 2009, Washington (office location), USA, and may be an Arizona U.S. based company. Similar to other US-based flashlight brands such as 4Sevens, Shiningbeam, Streamlight, Zebralight and PowerTac, the products are manufactured and assembled in China. For example brands such as 4Sevens (Dave), Shiningbeam (Bryan), iTP and Olight (Christina) are produced by Olight China (Dave). Coincidentally 4Sevens, Eagtac (Dan) and PTS (Mike) share some common history and business relations, and one might assume that some EagleTac parts are produced by Olight China too but that's another story so let's not go there. In any case, currently the largest ET importers/distributors/dealers in the USA are Eagletac-USA (Mike) and illuminationGear (Tod).

While EagleTac as a US-brand made in China was known from the very start and appreciated by authorized dealers, re-sellers and forum boardies from all over world, especially in the US and EU countries (UK, GermanyRussia, ..) as maker --designer and producer-- of affordable high-end throwers for personal use and tactically oriented precision flashlights for professional use (law enforcement, police, tactical gear aficionados, military fields, search and rescue teams), only recently did they make a broader appearance in the scene and left a footprint in so many new potential buyers' minds.

Even without the introduction of their best-selling EDC series, the D25 Mini's & Clicky's, there are so many little details about this brand and their products which in most cases turn a simple EagleTac user to an ardent EagleTac fan. Truly exciting are:

  • the 10 yrs of warranty, service and performance guarantee
  • the very likable clear product line and compact catalog (it's growing tho)
  • the continuation and evolution of old strong products
  • the first to release models with updated LEDs
  • the separate availability of updated LED modules and upgraded heads
  • the manifold LED options for throw, flood, tint or even color LEDs, IR, UV
  • the thoughtfully designed well built great performing end products
  • the rich set of included accessories plus the optional
  • the premium-feel packaging (similar to the old 4Sevens retail packaging)
  • the beautiful modern website (new since Nov 2011) packed with product info
  • the fair price point below Fenix pricing and much below 4Sevens
  • cant think of any aspect which sucks

By looking at the above list one can tell that ET works hard to do it right in every respect, keep the pace of technological advances, and literally excel and convince the audience. ET is also going to be the first of its class (among Xtar, Fenix, Solarforce, Nitecore, Jetbeam, Klarus) to release Protected 18650's 3400mAh based on Panasonic NCR18650B. Not there yet but ET seems to be at the forefront of closing the gap behind Zebralight's #1 industry-leading circuit efficiency.

As it appears this is going to be the very first official EagleTac flashlight review on this forum, my home, BLF. Rarely does this budget lights forum see a Fenix, Sunawayman or 4Sevens review originally written by a senior BLF reviewer. On BLF, we enjoy the inexpensive, well built and hard driven China-made flashlights and when they break, we disassemble the parts, exchange the driver and LED, do some further modding optimizations and done is the resurrected budget light flashing brighter than any premium stock light. Eric's unforgotten UF2100 group buy comes to mind .. and for sure nobody expected any great runtimes or efficiency from it. So i shouldnt be wondering why there hasnt been any other EagleTac flashlight review before on BLF, the more am i pleased to be the first (Sept 2012) to do so: the premiere introduction of the brand and of a highly recommendable 1x18650 flashlight suitable for EDC. Yes, you saw it already, i gave it a 5stars rating. If i thought that this flashlight werent worth this high score, I wouldnt take the trouble to review it -- and i didnt even get started till now hehe.

The WWW offers a bunch of fine, short, neutral, objective, factual D25LC2 reviews, in all kinds of languages. My take will be to guide you to those inet sources, keep my own work short (well.. we will see.. hehe) and write from an enthusiast user's point of view. So much has already been written on the inet regarding the D25LC2, beginning with the freaking great product pages by the company itself, that i wont waste our time by re-re-regurgitating the obvious.

 

Some Background Info:

The whole D-series, Mini's and Clicky's, was announced during summer 2011 within the 2011 product catalog PDF when the former ET website, a horrible looking and frustratingly neglected outdated flashlight brand website, was still online. In September 2011 the aluminum versions of the D25 Minis were released --soytnly reviewed the D25C Mini a month later-- which surprised the market by the optimized compactness (diameter, length, weight) and good looks. In particular the official ET webpage photos on the then new ET website made the Minis look very attractive. The D-series lights are still looking good, i.e. in RL and not only on the company photos. However this fact is a mystery and somewhat surprising to me .. because if you think about the why's, it is hard to understand why. At the end of day these EDC lights have a simple slim round tube format with no high profile design. Maybe it is the lengthy stainless steel bezel or the nice pocket clip design, maybe it is the harmonic proportions of the total form factor or the length ratio between body and head. In any case, the D25 Minis stirred quite some interest among old ET users because Eagletac was till then not known for good looking lights or EDC lights or beautiful webpages or retail packaging. Eagletac's brand was a synonym for tactical, professional portable lighting, and their products were a tad too serious to appeal to a larger audience. Then the marketing department decided to revamp the brand's image and word hard to expand the ET customer base. While 4Sevens' rebranding to Foursevens didnt seem to have any significant effect or impact on the scene there is no single doubt that Eagtac (and also Nitecore, wow) made a profitable transition from the Old to the New. As can be inferred from the many ET-related posts and threads on CPF in 2012 as opposed to say 2011, ET did successfully enlarge their following. D-series lights can ;=) be acquired at prices in the exact middle between premium Fenix and budget Romisen and are thus the next step up from the budget level. Shoppers coming from the opposite end, namely the premium level, didnt hesitate long and bought several models from the same series. In a recent forum poll, 78 boardies had bought 117+ lights from that series [19]. Why would so many people buy another D-series light?, think about it. I myself own several copies too and plan to buy more (and gift away my used ones hehe) if ET continues to offer updated LED's or evolutionized D-series models. And i am more than confident that in the next few years this series will still be part of Eagtac's sales program and not have dropped out of their catalog. Imho it is one key of success and consumer's satisfaction for a brand to hold on to popular models, offer incremental updates, technological improvements and never abandon them. When consumers revisit the company's website after years, they would still see their old D-series light in the catalog and learn that it was never discontinued but further supported to a D25LC2 Mk III release. This is actually what happens in the car industry and what Maglite does: their 2xAA Mini Maglite, launched in 1984, still exists in the same format, only with updated LED and electronics. People love it and continue to buy it, the upgraded model.

Next came the Titanium offering of the 2 smallest members, D25A and D25C, in December 2011, with CW LEDs U2 or S2. Especially Eagtac's picked XP-G S2 emitter is lauded for its beautiful coolwhite tint .. a clean white tint with no greenishness (well and if you ever get an ET light with an unpleasing tint, then simply return it to the authorized dealer and get a FREE replacement. ET aint no better produced than Fenix Made In China factory produce and we all know how greenish and badly centered Fenix emitters can be!). Some buyers were still holding back because in January during SHOT Show 2012 the company was fair enough to show off samples and announce the release date of aluminum D-series Clicky's. Users arent very grateful for grating twisty Ti threads so these Mini Ti's were a moderately successful seller only and prices for them dropped when the more popular Clicky Ti's became available 6 months later in June. Meanwhile, introduced in April, the D-series could finally take off on its victory lap. Most of its boost and sales boom goes back to the impact of selfbuilt's extensive review [3]. His review even beat everybody's darling lights iTP A3, Xeno E03, Quark and all Zebralights in replies popularity and is only beaten in the past 12 months by the legendary Nitecore Tiny Monster TM11. Clearly, in 2012 the EagleTac D25 is an often mentioned and well-selling flashlight of its class: compact EDC non-budget China-made production light. Discussion of this product will continue, ET has already updated the webpages with specs for the new XP-G2 emitter options.. 

 

Features / Value: ★★★★

The great and many features of my light are listed and summarized in best manner on the Eagletac website. The company put much effort in compiling the info together with top quality photo material and pointing out the various design details. I can hardly add to the wealth, clarity and precision of the descriptions found there. Therefore i urge the reader to study the following webpages, since they contain all essential and interesting info regarding the features and value of the product. The 11 URL's are probably more helpful for your purchase decision than this lengthy blablah review!

"Official D25LC2 Clicky webpages:" wrote:
  1. http://www.eagletac.com/html/d25lc2rc/index.html (D25LC2 Clicky intro)
  2. http://www.eagletac.com/html/d25lc2rc/specs.html (extensive specs sheet)
  3. http://www.eagletac.com/html/d25lc2rc/features/output.html (beamshots)
  4. http://www.eagletac.com/html/d25lc2rc/features/efficiency.html (circuit design)
  5. http://www.eagletac.com/html/d25lc2rc/features/control.html (user interface)
  6. http://www.eagletac.com/html/d25lc2rc/features/details.html (nice features)
  7. http://www.eagletac.com/download/gallery/d25lc2rcstd.zip (download pics)
  8. http://www.eagletac.com/download/gallery/d25lc2rchd.zip (download pics HD)
  9. http://www.eagletac.com/download/readme/d25rc.pdf (download manual)
  10. http://www.eagletac.com/html/d_series/compare-d-rc-series/index.html (comparison to other Clicky's)
  11. http://www.eagletac.com/html/d_series/d25_clicky_series.html (Clicky series overview)

Whatever you would possibly want to know about the D25LC2 Clicky can be found on the above 11 official webpages or in the below 22 annotated references which contain even more textual and visual material than the already packed official webpages and downloadable resources. For a full summary of the product features please check again the list of Pro's at the top of this review. 

Relevant or noteworthy D25LC2 Clicky user references: wrote:
  1. 2012-04-25  : Eagletac D25 clicky serie D25C2 D25LC2, video in German, quick product presentation and demonstration of UI, good for very first impression of D25LC2's nice compactness. jojo was the very first on the WWW to provide user-created material. pioneering efforts.
  2. 2012-05-15 Mev : EagleTac D25LC2 Clicky (Cree XM-L U2) Review, short impersonal review. has few high quality photos of the main flashlight parts. short objective dry description of obvious details of the flashlight parts, is wrong about memory mode. kind of a "shortened summary" of the above ET pages. white wall beam profiles for Turbo/Hi/Med/Low, no Moonlight. since all of his white walls shots are plain green, they could be used for qualitative beam profile comparisons and as indication of brightness levels or beam artifacts between different flashlight models reviewed by Mev but not for indication of tint or tint tendencies of (t)his reviewed flashlights, unfortunately. the core of Mev's work lies in the runtime tests and brightness graphs and measurements. he lists own lumen and lux measurements for Turbo/Hi/Med/Low/Moonlight, lists runtime measurements for Turbo/Hi/Med, has brightness graphs for Turbo/Hi/Med on both 1x18650 and 2xCR123.
  3. 2012-05-29 selfbuilt : Eagletac D25 Clicky Series Round-up Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2 - XM-L & XP-G)
  4. 2012-05-29  : Eagletac D25C "Clicky" Family Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2), by selfbuilt, video introduction of the D-series lights, explains common features, the UI, highlights selected distinctive details of each model since they are not merely scaled models, finds the lights petite and impressive for their light output. this table top quick review is helpful to get a first real-life impression of the looks and relative dimensions of the series members. for special notes and detailed analysis of various aspects of the light's build quality and performance the reader is referred to the written full review. 
  5. 2012-05-30 rastigo : Eagletac D25LC2 Clicky reviewed, one of the many cpf threads where the OP shares how happy and satisfied he is with a just gotten newly bought flashlight product. key title words reviewed and poll lead to a good amount of initial attention but when it becomes clear that both the "review" and the poll suck so hard, comments by the participating members go astray. has some funny or amusing moments.
  6. 2012-06-21 gearhounds : Eagletac D25LC2 Clicky XP-G S2 Review, compares to Mini which was reviewed by same author, compact review text with some personal insight and original thoughts, ideas for product improvement, nicely compiled product photos, detailed description of flashlight parts as shown in the photo. review doesnt contain any test results, own numbers or technical measurements but focuses on the informative value of beam shots. 43(!) singular beam shots at night (outdoor/indoor) taken at different distances to provide qualitative impression of the illuminative power, the throw capability, the mode spacing, and the perfect white tint of the XP-G S2 emitter. Compare these photos with corresponding beam shots to realize the brightness difference between other flashlight models reviewed by the same author. if one finds singular beam shots helpful, then this work ranks as best of its kind.
  7. EagleTac D25LC2 Clicky Review - A Layman's Perspective
  8. 2012-07-11 goingprepared : Eagletac D25A D25A2 D25C D25LC2 Clicky Flashlight Review, unlike real video reviews such as nutnfancy's experience reports just a neutral videographic presentation of the series showing the package contents and the basic operation of the light with no further revealing info by an enlightening insider pun intended or from a critical flashaholic's standpoint. 2nd half of the video demonstrates how much brighter one model over the other is. also runs li-ions in D25A and D25C. since goingprepared does similar video presentations of many other brand name lights it could be possible to qualitatively compare the brightness and beam profiles of different flashlight models. personally i find these presentations of extremely limited help or usefulness sorry no offense.
  9. 2012-07-17 virtuovice : Flashlight review / EagleTac D25C2 Clicky, "Hello flashlight people,.." Japanese hardcore user of hunting knives and flashlights doesnt like the holster, compares to Quark, thinks that Eagtac has more throw and lumen, points out fabrication similarities, likes lanyard ring, no moonlight mode or memory, 4Sevens loses outdoor beam comparison. explains why he likes or dislikes certain features and his personal opinion or preference should prove helpful for the prospective buyer. nicely made comparison with a clear winner.  
  10. 2012-07-22 virtuovice : EagleTac D25C2 Clicky / XM-L U2 or XP-G S2, owns 4 similar lights, outdoor beam comparison of Fenix PD31 vs. S2, and S2 vs. U2. explains how the beams differ or are rather similar and which light has the better beam in his opinion. you can see the greenish tint of the Fenix and the superiority of the S2 beam. as walking light though he likes the U2 much better than the S2 because of the brighter spill area. helpful comparison if one wants to see live action of a XP-G versus a XM-L LED shining against dark objects such as street asphalt and trees.
  11. 2012-07-23 virtuovice : EagleTac D25C2 Clicky among Turbo head flashlights., first does a table top comparison of 3 popular brand name flashlights with turbo heads Klarus/Jetbeam/Sunawayman, interesting enough to see since he obviously makes heavy RL use of all these lights including the sheaths and long lanyards, beam differences and imperfections are pointed out of Jetbeam, focuses then on direct comparison between Klarus and Eagtac. because of the turbo head Klarus wins it for throw and real tactical applications. bottom line is, the 2 lights are made for different purposes and it is like comparing apples and oranges.
  12. 2012-07-25 candle lamp : Eagletac D25LC2 (XM-L U2, 1x18650, 2x(R)CR123A) Review, a good work by an ambitious Korean reviewer which went largely unnoticed with ~1400 views and 9 replies on cpf. detailed descriptions of the flashlight parts with numerous informative photos and closeups. maybe the best series of photos of its kind. describes minute design features, details on pocket clip, reversibility, threads, battery adapter, lens coating, lanyard attachment, weight, handiness, battery fitment, holster, UI and PWM. presents brightness-vs-runtime graph for 1x18650 and 2xCR123 on Turbo/Hi/Med. No repeated runtime tests performend and quality of used cells questionable. very good visualization of output levels when toggling moonlight mode. shows that D25C's moonlight is lower than D25LC2's moonlight. since the author does standardized beam shots of many high quality flashlights, the 2 given outdoor beamshots on Turbo mode suffice to demonstrate how poorly the XML throws. lacks further beamshots and graphs typically encountered in his other reviews.
  13. 2012-08-02  : Обзор EagleTac D25LC2 Clicky, review in Russian, shows full disassembly of head and of tail, time lapse animated gif of runtime on Turbo mode, mini table of ampere and lux readings, lots of high quality product photos of part details and closeups, concise text of an otherwise very ambitious reviewer writing from a critical user's standpoint with much thought, experience and insight. beamshots directly comparable to his many other works. translate.google.com results in funny Engrish text dont laugh.
  14. 2012-08-05 virtuovice : My favorite EDC flashlights so far, shows again his 4 similar EDC lights, explains for each model what he likes and dislikes, essential practical aspects of pocket clips, likes simplicity in the UI's, switches maybe from same factory but ET switch has the edge over others, indoor beam shot comparison in a screening hall, clever juxtaposition of 2 throwy lights Fenix vs. S2, and later on 2 floody lights Quark vs. U2. while difficult to discern differences, still helpful to learn that there are differences. after watching the series of virtuovice videos one would know whether the throwy S2 or the floody U2 suits one's needs better.
  15. 2012-08-26 Dr O : D25LC2 as a headtorch, the OP is a serious and experienced user of headlamps and showcases the famous Fenix headband, nutnfancy's favorite product of this kind!, as perfect accessory for the D25LC2 because of the compact dimensions, the low weight and especially the incredible runtimes on Turbo and Hi. It does beat for example the weight and runtimes of a Fenix LD20 loaded with 2x Eneloop.
  16. 2012-09-08 GoingGear.com : Flashlight Comparison 2.2: Pt 87 - Eagletac D25LC2 Clicky XM-L, quick outdoor beam shot video at night in the open field as part of a series of similar beam shot videos. after watching several videos of the same series one has got a good appreciation of what flashlights or the Eagtac EDC XM-L U2 lights can do out in the field and what they cant do. easy to see that the D-series XML is all flood compared to the other flashlights of the Flashlight Comparison 2.2 series. unfortunately the D-series XP-G2 and XP-G S2 are not included in this otherwise comprehensive video series
  17. 2012-09-16 Tyler___Durden : Looking at buying a EagleTac D25LC2 Clicky. Peoples thoughts?, interesting thread of a female non-flashaholic who put impressive effort and thought in coming to a well-founded purchase decision. She asks intelligent questions, step after step, receives plenty of guidance and advise from experienced flashaholics and Eagtac users, and gradually gets closer to the final choice of products to be ordered from recommended dealers. discussion includes needed acquisition of suitable not necessary budget accompanying items such as li-ion charger and batteries. her energy and interest make it apparent that she could have found through the jungle of purchase options on her own by herself, anyway it is a delight to see the mostly male community giving her a hand in a joint effort to help her make the right and happy choices tailored to her clearly specified RL applications.
  18. 2012-09-16 shelm : EagleTac D25-series: Which models did you buy?, poll on cpf to determine the most popular models among the D-series. the flagship in this series, the D25LC2 Clicky, seems also to be the most often sold model. Sales data reveal that the Minis sell far less well than the Clickies. contact me if you need a BLF quote on this or other ET flashlight product.
  19. 2012-10-08 kreisler : Review: EagleTac D25LC2 Clicky XM-L U2, humbly acknowledging the ambitious and successful review efforts of previous reviewers and that their work cant be emulated by any means let alone surpassed he prefers to gather notable existing sources of third-party info regarding the product à la literature research and evaluate their utility. does a great job in doing so. a unique and fantastic approach of reviewing a flashlight: a review of flashlight reviews!! incredible that dude, kreisl once more an original hero in the flashlight scene! duh
  20. 2012-10-26 Match : Review: Custom Eagletac D25LC2 xp-g2, an original BFL review with lots of products photos, output numbers, original OTF lumens measurements and fantastic mouse-over outdoors beamshots at night. His intriguing review treats the D25LC2 Clicky XP-G2 R5 CW not with the factory default 1.5A XP-G driver but with the factory custom XM-L 2.0A driver. More current makes the XP-G2 torch less efficient but brighter and throwier. Modders with the XM-L factory torch edition and a separate bare XP-G2 emitter could "simply" swap the emitters and get the same result. Since then fellow forum hoppers got interested in acquiring this special version too, which lead to some dealers beginning to sell it more officially after the principle of demand and supply.
  21. 2013-02-10 ynotjf : Comparison review: EagleTac D25LC2 XP-G2 R5, ..(comments pending)..

D25LC2 Mini, not Clicky (Less popular and why would anyone want a twisty 1x18650 please? instructive for the XP-G S2 LED):

  1. 2011-09-06 : Eagletac D25 mini
  2. 2011-09-10 : Video review EagleTac D25LC2 mini 344 ANSI lumens max. at night www.msitc-shop.com
  3. 2011-09-10 Lampentroll : Review Eagletac D25LC2
  4. 2011-09-10 vinhnguyen54 : Eagletac D25A, D25A2, D25C, D25C2, D25LC2
  5. 2011-09-19 : EagleTac D25LC2 Mini
  6. 2011-09-20 : EagleTac D25LC2 Mini & Fenix PD31
  7. 2011-09-21 gearhounds : Eagletac D25LC2 Mini Review
  8. 2011-09-27 rookiedaddy : Random talks about EagleTac D25 Series
  9. 2011-10-10 goingprepared : Eagletac D25A D25A2 D25C D25C2 D25LC2 Review
  10. 2011-10-23 : Обзор EagleTac D25LC2 mini
  11. 2011-12-10 : EagleTac D25 mini LED Flashlight
  12. 2012-01-03 marxde : Review EagleTac D25 Familie
  13. 2012-02-10 : Eagletac D25LC2 review 493 lumens XP-G S2
  14. 2012-02-22 BigBluefish : EagleTac D25LC2 Tint

 

Design / Build Quality: ★★★★

On my unit the XM-L U2 LED is acceptably well-centered, the big hotspot is free of stains or corona artifacts and the floody beam profile looks beautiful, just perfect. The CoolWhite tint with a fine lime hue on the lower current-driven modes is exactly the same as known from Eagletac U2's or other flashlight models/brands with U2's. This doesnt come surprising because U2 is made by Cree, and Cree is the same company. haha. From the many user reports on the WWW one can gather that Cree tint lottery affects also premium flashlight companies incl. Sunawayman, Klarus, Fenix and Zebralight. Eagletac too but maybe to a more confined and predictable degree because of the many user reports:

  • Eagletac XM-L U2 CW: dont expect perfect pure white. most likely your tint will have a very fine lime hue but that's standard with U2's and acceptable. if it is bad and you think that you got a greenish lemon, return your sample to the dealer no questions asked.
  • Eagletac XM-L T6 NW: expect a very warmish tint reminding of late evening sunsets. yellowish-orange tint should be uniform across the beam profile with no detectable greenishness in hotspot or corona. if the tint is irregular inform your dealer for a replacement greetings to kreisler. has high CRI.
  • Eagletac XP-G S2 CW: expect a truely coolish white. looks high-energy, artificial pure white. no  greenishness or lime. all user reports are highly positive regarding this emitter.
  • Eagletac XP-G2 R5 CW: expect a creamish white, with an interesting cool Wink tint shift from non-PWM to PWM. compared to the Eagletac XP-G S2 CW or as observed in other XP-G2 lights, this white is definitely not a pure artificial white but rather a tinted white, a "natural" white, beige, yet with no greenishness, lime or yellowishness. users rave about the consistently likable XP-G2 tint in general and in the D25-series lights in particular. offers good color rendition. outside the creamish corona tint may have purplish tendency.
  • Eagletac XP-G R4 NW: oh please. give us a break will ya. lets ignore and not bother.
  • Eagletac X*-* ** **: yep yep, more emitter choices to follow i am confident. expect ET to support or improve this quite successful Clicky flashlight model in the following few years. if you think of buying a Quark, better buy some Eagletac. well, at least think about the advice. hehe

The switch, as has been noted by many reviewers, is of excellent quality. Tactile feel is really good (unlike Jetbeam BA20), switch responds very well (unlike Fenix PD20) and is failsafe and flicker-free (unlike Xeno E03). The boot cover is recessed --at least on my sample-- therefore tailstand a perfect breeze.

There is nothing wrong with the physical quality of the light. The torch is well-designed, well-constructed, well-made, and fit'n finish of the parts, anodization, etc is impeccable. No flaws, nothing. It is what you expect and get from other quality factories such as Fenix or Olight. No surprises here, negative nor positive. Me too [9], I could easily think that this light, or the aluminum parts of it, comes from the same factory in which 4Sevens Quarks are produced, their physical quality is too similar! What does that mean, is this good or bad, 4Sevens? Well, search youtube for <foursevens quark> or <4sevens quark>, every week some arbitrary young youtuber, not necessarily an experienced flashaholic!, does a proud unboxing and raves about the physical quality of his newly gotten 4Sevens flashlight. That says it all, doesnt it? From my exposure to 4Sevens produce i can tell that their anodization doesnt hold up very well. Do we know what type of anodization 4Sevens uses? Definitely not military-grade and definitely not long-lasting at all, shame on 4Sevens! Eagletac is less expensive stuff and seems to come from the same factory .. at least the aluminum parts. If that is true, then there is no hope that the D25LC2 anodization will hold up any well. Since i am going to take very good care of this lovely flashlight and i didnt EDC it frequently enough, it is too early to say anything proven about the longevity of the anodization. Let's check user reports after a couple of months. In any case, if you already believe that physical build quality including anodization of Klarus, Niteye, Jetbeam, Sunawayman and the new Nitecore is superior to Olight produce, then you're more than right. But none of them ever dared to release a similar "fine" product optimized for compactness, too. It's an optimization problem and engineering challenge: the thinner the body tube walls, the finer will the threads become and the smaller the thread height. Do the maths yourself, 18650 means that the nominal thickness of the battery is 18mm, the D25LC2 flashlight body inner diameter is ~18.9mm to compensate for tolerances of 18650's, outer diameter at the threads area is ~21.2mm, that leaves you with ~1.15mm space in radial direction for total thread thickness, consisting of ~0.70mm remaining wall thickness and ~0.45mm thread height, 2x(0.70+0.45)=(2x1.15)=(21.2-18.9). However these are average numbers or rounded numbers. If you ever measured the dimensions of Olight produce threads with a digital sliding caliper you would know that their manufacturing tolerances are way off from Swiss precision. I am not a Chin*se machinist, and as a Geman flashlight user i feel ridiculous to re-measure the dimensions of the threads and complain about machining tolerances, because it is not my task or paid job to do so, it is the Chin*se machinist's, not mine! So i dont. Hehe sorry for the rant, I am going to stop here. When you exchange batteries you will notice that the body walls are thin and I wish that the threads looked beefier. In a way, yes, fiddling with the 3 aluminum parts of an unloaded D25LC2 flashlight makes the user think that the torch is built too light-weight or feels cheap-ish and could possibly be crushed with one's bare hands. Crazy thoughts! And to be honest, when i was new to power LED flashlights and got a LD20 as my very first experience, i myself thought wow that's light-weight and feels kinda cheap and what the heck i paid 40+€ for this cheap stuff?? i couldnt believe it how the unloaded LD20 felt physically in my hands, so cheap, argh! After loading 2x AA's the torch felt much much better, nonetheless i returned the light for a full refund because, the LD20, it felt that there was nothing to it. Not worth the asking price. So here with the Eagletac we have it again: walls are thin, body and tail feel too light, look thin, and neither of the two exude premium-ness, strength or durability. Well, that's how it is, my impression. After loading a Protected 18650 --they weigh at least 49g apiece wtf-- all is good again and former dubious impressions gone with the wind vivien leigh is beautiful forever. Should we complain about the slim walls and threads? No. This and the lack of anodization on the threads are the natural outcome when one tries to design an ultra-compact 18650 flashlight body with reversible head/tail parts. In any case, back to the tolerances of the boring and threads, expect tighter, finer machining tolerances from Made In Gemany stuff or Niteye Jetbeam produce, so only 4 stars here. And if in distant future the threads or aluminum parts fail on you, wear off, wear out, then contact EagleTac and they will have a dealer or distributor ship a FREE replacement part to you, ET's warranty service works smoothly and with no hassle, they don't give you a hard time.

 

Battery Life: ★★★★★

For the repeated runtime tests i used pairs of high-quality 18650's with different nominal capacities. Runs were terminated when brightness began to dim at a fast rate nearing the ~"50%" mark; all tests are continuous runtime tests conducted in a glass of cold water. Remaining cell voltage measured 1.0h after ejecting from torch. Runtimes on XTAR 18700 are readings from the below graphs (incl. the influence of the DMM on the driver regulation and runtimes!), all other runs were time stopped by hand with no such/any equipment (DMM, ..) connected to the torch. If in doubt, dont trust the XTAR 18700 runtimes because the connected DMM might have altered the proper runtimes by some extent.

D25LC2 Clicky XM-L runtimes (min)
batterynominal capacitycell insideTurbo (voltage)Hi1=Hi2 (voltage)Med1 (voltage)Med2 (voltage)
Eagletac 2500 blue label, cell#12500mAhKorea    
Eagletac 2500 blue label, cell#22500mAhKorea    
XTAR 18700 2600, cell#12600mAhSanyo 110 (n/a) 130=130 (n/a) untested untested
XTAR 18700 2600, cell#22600mAhSanyo 115 (n/a) untested 620 (n/a) 1080 (n/a)
Protected Panasonic 3100, cell#1 3100mAhNCR18650A    
Protected Panasonic 3100, cell#23100mAhNCR18650A    
Eagletac 3400 green label, cell#13400mAhNCR18650B    
Eagletac 3400 green label, cell#23400mAhNCR18650B    

 

For the runtime tests with the XTAR 18700 cells i also logged the tailcap current with my UT61E. Constant brightness stabilization means that the current has to rise by all means during the entire runtime because of the declining cell voltage from 4.20V, full 18650 cell, down to 2.75V, depleted 18650 cell. Unfortunately the shunt resistor phenomenon of measuring amperage in low voltage circuits with cheap DMM's does influence the delicate circuitry of the driver and you can tell from the graphs where the targeted stabilization falls out of regulation prematurely. HKJ reviews flashlights with expensive professional equipment so that his graphs represent the true behavior of the driver. While my graphs of the Med-modes seem to depict reality correctly, the graphs of Hi-mode and Turbo-mode clearly show the effect and influence of the voltage drop within the DMM. In other words, these 2 graphs dont show the true tailcap amperage lol but the tailcap amperage when the tailcap (zero voltage drop) is fully replaced by probes, leads, connectors, and a cheap DMM rofl. What we see is distorted reality.

 

The following Med-modes graph looks good and correct:

The following Hi-modes graph looks nice but at t=65min the voltage drop in the DMM distorts the proper graph:

We learn from the following Turbo-modes graph that the torch goes into some kind of direct drive, starting from 2.0A, for the first 3mins before it does a step-down to 1.5A. From then on the torch goes into fully regulated mode with brightness stabilization. The current would increase from 1.5A continuously and monotonously, however my cheap measurement technique fails to illustrate this behavior my bad. At the end of the day the graph looks nice but after ~20mins the voltage drop in the DMM distorts the proper graph:

The following shows all graphs in the same picture. "H" is the upper cycle with head loosened (Lo-Med1-Hi1-..), "L" is the lower cycle with head loosened (Moonlight-Med2-Hi2-..). As other reviewers stated, there is no brightness difference between the Turbo-modes or the Hi-modes. Hi1 is as bright as Hi2. However since Med(L) is less bright than Med(H), runtimes differ by a lot:


The above graph indicates that runtimes between Hi1 (=Hi2) and Turbo differ by ~20min only. This is confirmed by the data given in the runtimes measurement grid.

 

Light Output: ★★★★★

In a qualitative comparison between D25LC2 U2, D25A U2 and T20C2 U2, all loaded with 1x4.20V LiIon, i can tell from a visual ceiling bounce comparison that on Turbo mode:

D25LC2 U2  D25A U2 T20C2 U2

In other words, there is no big difference in output between these 3 EagleTac lights. No wonder because all use the same Cree XM-L U2 emitter with the same CoolWhite tint and all run on a fully charged single LiIon cell.

Several users report that ET's official specs are underspec'ed. Since I dont have a lumens lightbox or my own database of lux measurements for a large variety of similarly bright flashlights, i cannot give exact quantitve output estimations of my unit. On Turbo, the specs say "548lm", Mev says 542lm, selfbuilt says 650, 660 or 670lm depending on the liion cell configuration in his unit.

selfbuilt wrote:

As major flashlight reviewer on CPF he tested a great deal of quality flashlights so I wont disagree here with his observation, the above quote. In any case, the D25LC2 produces a nice wall of light, I'll subscribe to that! Keep in mind that there are currently 5 emitter options available. The quoted numbers (548, 542, 660) are valid for XM-L U2 CW only. If you get a different emitter, output will be lower according to this table:

Please see the References for series of high-quality beam shots and beam shot videos. I might add my own beamshots when i buy a new camera.

 

 

 

Summary: ★★★★★

In compactness only beaten by the unattractive looking Xeno S3A no offense, the D25LC2 Clicky is the most compact 1x18650 flashlight on the entire market. This feature, and its output, runtime, build quality, looks, plus 10yrs warranty are strong selling points, and I can highly recommend its purchase. Maybe the price point is still above what budgeteers would be willing to spend on a small 1x18650 flashlight but other than that, with the D25LC2, we have a thoroughly tested efficiently running compact pocket rocket with a wide operating voltage, LED purchase options for flood/throw/tint, out-of-the-box after-market diffusers, and versatility with the reversible pocket clip, carry options and secure tailstand. Performancewise, apart from the high output of 650-670 ANSI lumen, what maybe sets this flashlight apart the most from any other 1x18650 sized flashlight is its incredible runtime on the 2 Hi modes, which in turn opens up a broad field of serious practical applications not only as primary EDC light but also possibly as headlamp, bike light, work light, walking light, or allround flashlight for house indoors, outdoors, car, etc. The 7 blinky modes might appear as overkill but they give you only more usage options in tactical or emergency situations. Ultra-compact 22.0mmØ 1x18650 lights such as this and related products (21.5 S3A, 23.5 UF2100/F12) are shorter and weigh less in total than the popular 2xEneloop AA form factor flashlights (21.5 LD22, 22.0 Quark, 23.0 P2A). If you are a 2xAA believer because of the extended Eneloop runtime, slim body, good throw and high brightness, then the D25LC2 will beat it in all categories: it is as slim but weighs only 99g in the heaviest liion cell setup, is shorter, much brighter, pocket-friendly, throws further (w/ S2 or G2 emitter) and most amazingly of all, runs much much longer with a typical 2600 Sanyo, or 3100/3400 Panasonic cell. The EagleTac fan base is growing since, be part of it and buy a D-series flashlight too! My top recommendation as EDC light!!

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A truly exhaustive ( exhausting ? ) review .

Well done .

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Thanks for the great review! Very thorough, as usual. Smile

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iv been buying and using various egaltacs for a few years now .they are ruggedly made and drivers are top notch .
very well machined lights . my first egaltec was the p10a and i loved it !!!

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I'm going to be in then. Smile

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kreisler wrote:

nono, no review. work in progress. it is going to be a giveaway!

reserved!

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So.. does this thing exist without clicky?

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So.. does this thing exist without clicky?

Sure: http://eu.nkon.nl/eagletac-flashlights/eagletac-d25lc2.html

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Nicely done Herr kreisler.

Wonderful review (as usual very thorough and extensive) and of a interesting light. Wish it was a Zoomie though.

Looking forward to seeing the completed review though, I'll be back for more Smile

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Yes, nice one Kreisler. Nice to get a bit of historical background, and fully referenced material. Reminds me of the time I was a student Smile

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Nice review thank you. Smile

Have to say I was so looking forward to this light, I have the Twisty version. But very disappointed in the final design. I thought it’d be a twisty with tail switch but retain the same design and awesome deep carry pocket clip. They did with the D25C clicky, but for some reason the D25LC2 seems to have grown more so and the awesome pocket clip is missing Sad

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NightCrawl wrote:

So.. does this thing exist without clicky?


Yes, it’s called the D25LC2 Mini and runs on 2xCR123A’s or 1×18650. They also do a slightly slimmer D25C2 which isn’t wide enough for an 18650 if you prefer primaries only (or a 16650).

I’ve got the XP-G S2 version and it’s an awesome little light, best feature is the pocket clip, sadly missing on the new clicky version.

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I’m going to be in then. Smile

WHAT? Is Kreisler doing a giveaway?

Marvelous… Smile

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I just really wish their aa version worked right on 14500s.

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nice review, work in progress and/or giveaway Smile

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Chicken Drumstick wrote:
NightCrawl wrote:

So.. does this thing exist without clicky?

Yes, it's called the D25LC2 Mini and runs on 2xCR123A's or 1x18650. They also do a slightly slimmer D25C2 which isn't wide enough for an 18650 if you prefer primaries only (or a 16650). I've got the XP-G S2 version and it's an awesome little light, best feature is the pocket clip, sadly missing on the new clicky version.

I'm either blind or looked in the wrong place, but I found the mini only with XPG, not XML.

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NightCrawl wrote:

Chicken Drumstick wrote:
NightCrawl wrote:

So.. does this thing exist without clicky?

Yes, it’s called the D25LC2 Mini and runs on 2xCR123A’s or 1×18650. They also do a slightly slimmer D25C2 which isn’t wide enough for an 18650 if you prefer primaries only (or a 16650). I’ve got the XP-G S2 version and it’s an awesome little light, best feature is the pocket clip, sadly missing on the new clicky version.

I’m either blind or looked in the wrong place, but I found the mini only with XPG, not XML.


You might be correct if you are wanting an XM-L version. Sadly while the EagleTac website looks pretty, it’s friggin awful to navigate and highly contradictory, claiming one thing on one page and something else on another.

If you are specifically after an XM-L Mini I’d suggest emailing EagleTac direct and ask them if it’s available.

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WAW,Saved me some money reading all that,didnt bother eating FOR 3 DAYS[:} or buying a news paper. Thanks for the info.Havent owned an Eagle Tac.Would consider it more now after reading your findings.Very Impressed

As a giveaway it would be kewl.Why not do a giveaway chain.The guy who gets it,gives something away to someone and so on…..

Have a rest now,ya finger tips must be blistered

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Nice detailed review, I read the rastagio review, he obviously wants to be in with the brand name boys….. I wonder what he’d make of a uf2100e with a decent cell rather than an ultrafire one Wink

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Hi Kreisler, why dont you extend your review in your 3rd post.
just ask the 2nd and 3rd poster to delete their post, so you can just expand yours

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how about copy and paste.
Im pretty sure you use a .doc document from where you copy and paste your whole review. At least that would be the safest way.
and if you edit your original file, you just need to copy and paste the original in your post.
(delete your old text, and paste your new)
when you have 2 consecutive posts, it wouldnt bother people to read it!

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I meant, copy the first half of the file in the first post.. the second part in the second post.

the problem seems like to be in the max. words per single post.
so if you just divide it somewhere in the middle, and move that section to your second post?

I guess that that wouldnt affect the thread!
for me at least, I wouldnt care to have to read a review that is split in 2 posts, as long as their are no other posts in between

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and so it shall be written and written and written!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Thanks very much! Frontpage’d and Sticky’d.

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Kreisler, you will need my address to send this giveaway light to Wink

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i am not so sure that youd want my copy ..

 

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Ok, kreisler, I admit it took me forever to read this review. I've had it bookmarked for a couple of months. By far my favorite little jewel is this:

"2012-10-08 kreisler : Review: EagleTac D25LC2 Clicky XM-L U2, humbly acknowledging the ambitious and successful review efforts of previous reviewers and that their work cant be emulated by any means let alone surpassed he prefers to gather notable existing sources of third-party info regarding the product à la literature research and evaluate their utility. does a great job in doing so. a unique and fantastic approach of reviewing a flashlight: a review of flashlight reviews!! incredible that dude, kreisl once more an original hero in the flashlight scene! duh"

An incredibly thorough review! You piqued my interest in EagleTac many months ago and guided me in my selection of the D25A Clicky Ti (thank you again). The D25LC2 will be my next 18650 purchase.

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i have this model with the coloured leds….does exist any cheaper flashlite with colored leds,which you can change by clickie system or so..? this eagle is too expensive..

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