DQG 18650 EDC--World's Smallest 18650 Flashlight

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You encouraged me to try it, but at this moment I can't get the board out of the head anymore Frown. anyway, here's how the disaster looks:

On the left side of the board is where the part is ripped off, the part still sticking to the foam is seen bottom right next to the flashlight head. Now that I see the picture, it appears like the complete solder pads were ripped off with the part. It's beyond repair after all Frown

Getting a bit off topic now, let's talk about happy stuff again, the 18500 DQG.... Smile

she is not dead yet.

thanks for the picture. there's a good chance you can repair this one. it does take some skill and good eyesight Smile

 

the 18650 dqg looks like such a nice light, the chinese have done it again.

the 100ma low mode is too much for me but that won't stop me from buying two.

 

 

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I wonder if I could mod an 18650 DQG.

I’m thinking something along these lines:
1. Replace star with 20mm triple XP-G2 R5 neutral 5000k and put appropiate optic on top.
2. Remove driver and replace with contact plates for direct drive.
3. Add QTC at head for brightness control.
4. Run on IMR 18650.

EDIT: hm. maybe this idea won’t work with this light. With the LEDs mounted on the driver board there wouldn’t be enough separation from the top of the batteries.

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Nice, it's really short.

Now it would be awesome to have a ~5cm long 16340 with XM-L2, That would be a really small powerful EDC.

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FX-32 wrote:

Nice, it’s really short.

Now it would be awesome to have a ~5cm long 16340 with XM-L2, That would be a really small powerful EDC.


The mini 01 is about 6 cm long so there we have a nice pocket rocket.
But the great on this is the capacity of a 18650 which is about five times a 16340 or 14500
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Werner wrote:
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Nice, it's really short.

Now it would be awesome to have a ~5cm long 16340 with XM-L2, That would be a really small powerful EDC.

The mini 01 is about 6 cm long so there we have a nice pocket rocket. But the great on this is the capacity of a 18650 which is about five times a 16340 or 14500
That's true, But I was thinking in something shorter can be made using integrated driver in LED's board and TIR optics. Obviously you will get less runtime, but it's nice to have a really small option. Personally, I don't use my EDC for too much time to have a 18650's capacity, for that reason a 16340 is enough for me. It can be shorter and brighter than an AA or AAA EDC.

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Actually, I like BLF Mini more than for example iTP A1 because it is a tad longer – easier to operate.

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she is not dead yet.

thanks for the picture. there's a good chance you can repair this one. it does take some skill and good eyesight Smile

got the board out, succesfully resoldered regulator, both modes worked again, assembled the light, TIR pressed board out of pill, took it apart again, tried to solder board to pill, something got too hot/got messed up (no idea), light is back to only low mode.

Now she really and utterly is dead. I did learn how to solder tiny bits though Smile :

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djozz wrote:

got the board out, succesfully resoldered regulator, both modes worked again, assembled the light, TIR pressed board out of pill, took it apart again, tried to solder board to pill, something got too hot/got messed up (no idea), light is back to only low mode.

Now she really and utterly is dead. I did learn how to solder tiny bits though Smile :

 

looks like you had a lot of fun tonight. are you ordering a new driver now ?

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djozz wrote:

neverfeltbetter wrote:
djozz wrote:

d*mn, just tried to remove the led/driver board of my DQGIIIAAA to make a picture of the led sitting on the driver board (I removed it before, so no calamities expected) and while removing the foam insert a current regulator was ripped off the board with it (##@!!!). Stopped there but now it won’t switch to high anymore. Too tiny to solder back I’m afraid….

Result: no nice picture to show you, and no working flashlight *sigh.

This is an expensive hobby in the end…

show us a picture :~ I just took a look a mine and with a very fine tip you should be able to solder the missing stuff back to the board.

You encouraged me to try it, but at this moment I can’t get the board out of the head anymore Frown. anyway, here’s how the disaster looks:

On the left side of the board is where the part is ripped off, the part still sticking to the foam is seen bottom right next to the flashlight head. Now that I see the picture, it appears like the complete solder pads were ripped off with the part. It’s beyond repair after all Frown

Getting a bit off topic now, let’s talk about happy stuff again, the 18500 DQG…. Smile

Looks like DQG AAA, Need a new driver for DQG AAA to fix it?

i can send one to you for free. I have 3 pieces DQG AAA driver left.Please PM me or send an email to sales@cnqualitygoods.com

BTW, DQG IV AAA SS version will come out next month, the UI will be Screw-off and loose-on. Maybe i should post this on DQG AAA thread. Smile

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Any idea when it will be available and how much it will be?

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Looks like DQG AAA, Need a new driver for DQG AAA to fix it?

i can send one to you for free. I have 3 pieces DQG AAA driver left.Please PM me or send an email to sales@cnqualitygoods.com

Wow! That’s is what I call awesome customer service! Kudos to you, Ric-CN!

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BTW, DQG IV AAA SS version will come out next month, the UI will be Screw-off and loose-on. Maybe i should post this on DQG AAA thread. Smile

Very nice! 8)
I always thought that this would be a better and more practical UI for Twisties and I wish more lights would come this way, but I guess that’s more complicated to implement.
…BUT: Does the light now have parasitic drain with this UI? or is it still a mechanically disconnected circuit when in off position? (was this understandable? :8) )

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I love all DQG aaa, Love

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Ric-CN wrote:
djozz wrote:

neverfeltbetter wrote:
djozz wrote:

d*mn, just tried to remove the led/driver board of my DQGIIIAAA to make a picture of the led sitting on the driver board (I removed it before, so no calamities expected) and while removing the foam insert a current regulator was ripped off the board with it (*##@!!!). Stopped there but now it won't switch to high anymore. Too tiny to solder back I'm afraid....

Result: no nice picture to show you, and no working flashlight *sigh*.

This is an expensive hobby in the end...

show us a picture :~ I just took a look a mine and with a very fine tip you should be able to solder the missing stuff back to the board.

You encouraged me to try it, but at this moment I can't get the board out of the head anymore Frown. anyway, here's how the disaster looks:

On the left side of the board is where the part is ripped off, the part still sticking to the foam is seen bottom right next to the flashlight head. Now that I see the picture, it appears like the complete solder pads were ripped off with the part. It's beyond repair after all Frown

Getting a bit off topic now, let's talk about happy stuff again, the 18500 DQG.... Smile

Looks like DQG AAA, Need a new driver for DQG AAA to fix it? i can send one to you for free. I have 3 pieces DQG AAA driver left.Please PM me or send an email to sales@cnqualitygoods.com BTW, DQG IV AAA SS version will come out next month, the UI will be Screw-off and loose-on. Maybe i should post this on DQG AAA thread. Smile Ric

Wow, that'd be great, good service, thanks, I will send you a PM right away, I am a bit clumsy sometimes but the light is dear to me.

The new version IV is a real improvement by the way, the threading is so smooth that at the moment I do not dare to put it on my keychain in fear of loosing the head, great that the switching is now the other way around!

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Wow, nice light Big Smile Hardly dunno it will work with protected cells Flat Stare
On the other hand, what part should be twisted? That SS part? Just saying, because that part should have some knurling for easier operation. I see small knurling part on the head, if that is the part you need to twist – awesome.

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SashiX wrote:
Wow, nice light Big Smile Hardly dunno it will work with protected cells Flat Stare On the other hand, what part should be twisted? That SS part? Just saying, because that part should have some knurling for easier operation. I see small knurling part on the head, if that is the part you need to twist – awesome.

It works with most protection 18650s, Like AW , Keeppower , Sanyo , Panasonic.

Yes, by twisting the knurling part on the head, you can turn it on/off and change modes.

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Wow, what a fabulous-looking torch. I want one!

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http://www.cnqualitygoods.com/goods.php?id=1846 Pound for pound, this is one of the best 18650 edc sized lights available, I’ve been loving mine since I got it.

no clip, but now that I have seen your link, I still want one of those, as well! Dual O-rings on each end, even. And, at that price, I think this will also make a terrific birthday gift for my best friend. Thanks!

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Does this flashlight have a low-voltage stepdown or sth like that so we can use unprotected cells, too?

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Ric, given the TIR and same driver, how would the throw and beam compare between the U3 and a XPG2?

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Ric, do you have a release date and estimated price? i was waiting to get one of these, but the wait is getting too long, and i need an edc

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It will be released by the end of the month. Price tag.. he said it will be worth the quality, considering the DQG AA is 31$ in NW, I guess this one will be around 50$.

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NightCrawl wrote:

It will be released by the end of the month. Price tag.. he said it will be worth the quality, considering the DQG AA is 31$ in NW, I guess this one will be around 50$.

The price might be acceptable to some, but thats at least twice what Id be willing to spend for a light like this. Im sure there are many others that would agree…

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NightCrawl wrote:

It will be released by the end of the month. Price tag.. he said it will be worth the quality, considering the DQG AA is 31$ in NW, I guess this one will be around 50$.

The price might be acceptable to some, but thats at least twice what Id be willing to spend for a light like this. Im sure there are many others that would agree…

I am the first who agrees… If that’s the cost i need to go for other deal. Too expensive for my customs policies.

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totilde wrote:
FlashPilot wrote:
NightCrawl wrote:

It will be released by the end of the month. Price tag.. he said it will be worth the quality, considering the DQG AA is 31$ in NW, I guess this one will be around 50$.

The price might be acceptable to some, but thats at least twice what Id be willing to spend for a light like this. Im sure there are many others that would agree…

I am the first who agrees… If that’s the cost i need to go for other deal. Too expensive for my customs policies.

i agree – $30 is my max for edc lights…if a light is lost or dropped $30 isnt too bad to replace

Would you mind keeping the wrong flashlight?
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I’d pay $31 for this.

I wish there was an option of having a higher current driver though. If I only want 500 lumens I might as well stick with a AA light which will weigh less and take up less space in the pocket.

If I’m going to go to the trouble to carry around an 18650 light I want it to be able to output high lumens, even if only for a few minutes at a time due to overheating. I’d prefer the option for a 2.5 or 2.8 amp driver.

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I hope it’s under $30. If so, I’ll order one.
Even if it is great quality, for me the function of this sort of light doesn’t warrant that price tag. On top of that, it has relatively simple optics which should lower costs a little. Not having glass up front means eventually having to change the TIR or live with a ‘fuzzy’ light.

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2A is enough for this kind of small light!
I know my h600w heats quickly on turbo (645 lumens, probably 2A too) and it is similar in size but have cooling fins
But please make this affordable, I’m still a student and have income of ~60 euros a month only Sad
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And now, a friendly announcement: (ie: cynical sense of humor): Perhaps the few that were so eager to spend the big bucks (before the price is even announced) can help offset what the light might be worth to the vast majority. Ric, please go ahead and collect from the $50 crowd first, as they are most willing to pay right away. Some might even buy the shoes off your feet (sight unseen) if you post your shoe size.

That, or please feel free to donate all that money burning holes in your pockets to the FP Avgas happiness fund. I will guarantee that your contributions will be well spent providing utter bliss to myself and many other air junkies. :bigsmile:

All in good fun… Wink

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FlashPilot wrote:
And now, a friendly announcement: (ie: cynical sense of humor): Perhaps the few that were so eager to spend the big bucks (before the price is even announced) can help offset what the light might be worth to the vast majority. Ric, please go ahead and collect from the $50 crowd first, as they are most willing to pay right away. Some might even buy the shoes off your feet (sight unseen) if you post your shoe size.

That, or please feel free to donate all that money burning holes in your pockets to the FP Avgas happiness fund. I will guarantee that your contributions will be well spent providing utter bliss to myself and many other air junkies. :bigsmile:

All in good fun… Wink

Don’t bother posting shoe size, I’ll buy em sight unseen Wink

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I’d like to see it with XP-G2 for better throw and three modes 0,05A-0,35A-1,5A in that order. With or without memory. That would be perfect EDC light.

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