Quick Review - Olight M3XS-UT Javelot *Mo Pics Added*

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Quick Review - Olight M3XS-UT Javelot *Mo Pics Added*

Olight M3XS-UT Javelot
Reviewer’s Overall Rating: ★★★★★

Summary:

Battery: 3x CR123A, 2× 18500: 4x CR123A, 2× 18650 w/adapter and/or sleeve
Switch: Tail Clicky w/Low Voltage LED Side Switch
Modes: Basic Modes L-M-H-Tur available from Clicky at tail And through the side switch On/Off controlled at tail, Moon accessed by holding e-switch WHILE engaging On at clicky.
LED Type: Cree XP-L Factory De-Domed
Lens: AR Coated glass coated 2 sides
Tailstands: Yes
Price Paid: Listed at $149.95
From: Olight M3XS-UT Javelot at GearBest
Date Ordered: Received for review on June 12, 2015 via DHL

Pros:

Factory De-domed flashlight featuring Cree XP-L emitter, very cleanly done
Excellent Build Quality
Outstanding Anodizing
AR glass lens coated 2 sides
Large Diameter very thick Copper mcpcb with Direct Thermal Path
Tactical grip
Tail stands
Tail clicky affords tactical mode settings, Side Switch for easy mode changes with a red LED in the center to indicate Low Voltage Warning
Fantastic throw right out of the box
Regulation circuitry shows me almost identical readings whether using freshly charged pair of 18650’s or an old pair partly used. Same thing for cheap lap pull Sanyo 18500’s. It works great, excellent output of ~4A to the emitter regardless of what cells I test it with.

Cons:

Struggling with this one, really don’t see anything I don’t like about this light!

Features / Value: ★★★★★

We’ve grown to expect high quality builds and finishes from Olight, and this light is no exception. Fit and finish is superb, anodizing is the typical flat black found with HAIII coatings. The design is very nice on this Javelot, with cooling fins along the sides of the e-switch area. I’d liked to have seen the side opposite the switch filled with these cooling fins also to aid in finding the side switch with your fingers in the dark, but all in all the ergonomics are really nice.

The M3XS-UT came in a fitted plastic carry case, padded with cut out foam lining that have fitments for the accessory o-rings and such. Nice package, pertinent information is on the cardboard like outer coverings on the box. The light came with no dents, dings, or scratches.

Olight has been paying attention, and this light really rocks straight out of the box!

I measured 2A at the tail on the pair of LG HE-4’s I tried, rested and partially used. Fresh cells show 1.95A at the tail, similar readings on the 18500 flat top lap pulls.

My light box shows…

3 lumens at an almost un measurable 0.01A that fluctuates to all zeroes
99.36 lumens with a tail reading of .07A
651.36 lumens with a tail reading of .73A
and 1252.35 lumens with a reading of 1.95A

These almost exactly mimmick Olights claims and are exceptional for the de-domed XP-L emitter. Tint on mine is a slightly warm white without green or rings. Very nice!

Throw measures out to 251.25Kcd on my meter, matching the claimed 250Kcd from Olight. Smile

And at 610 yds…

Design / Build Quality: ★★★★★

Design on this light is unique. Futuristic even, and may not appeal to everyone. But it’s strong suit is that Olight did the legwork for us, initially. As far as I know, this is the first factory de-domed Cree XP-L light. And it’s done very cleanly! The addition of the low voltage warning light and side mounted e-switch makes for very easy operation.

Notice here that the bezel is unusually thin, allowing for the largest possible diameter reflector. Also note the invisible AR coated glass lens. Even though this light is similar to the legendary HD2010, and the head diameter is almost exactly the same, the reflector is significantly larger in diameter and really shows when looking at the business end of this light! Well done Olight, very nice touch!

A closer look at the factory de-dome. Yes, the beam color does show that it’s de-domed, but it’s one of the more subtle de-domed tint changes I’ve seen.

Notice that they didn’t put a colored finish mask on the top of the fire retardent g10 layer on the mcpcb, not necessary I suppose on a proprietary use item.

Sure makes it necessary to keep the black plastic centering ring though, or the aluminum reflector would short out on the exposed traces. ;

The overall size and fit in the hand is very nice. With the large block portions for grip as well as the tactical ring I don’t expect this one to have any issues with slippage in use. I wish the tactical ring were in a fixed position or threaded on tight, but it rotates freely, albeit not loosely.

The tailcap and easily removable tactical ring. The tactical ring is also hard anodized aluminum. Not threaded but retained by the tail cap.

They say something about a new expandable switch contact for use of the various cells, I see the new mechanism but am not sure I should try to take this one apart. It works with the cells I’ve tried, and that’s the main thing. Wink

The driver in this one is different than the one in the previous model, with a neat little spring plate to ensure a good solid ground, or so it seems…

The driver is a 2 board style, with a very hefty FET on it, like the one’s we used when we first build the FET drivers. Nice!

Square threads abound, and already greased as well, same as with other versions of these lights from Olight! Well done, nice touch. Wink
And like the others, it has O-rings in all the right places. Nice fitment on them as well.No glue on any threads in this light, but the bezel was on so tight I was beginning to think it was glued.

I wonder how long I’ll be able to leave those 2 R050 sense resistors alone? Hmmmm……. Big smile

Battery Life: ☆☆☆☆☆Unknown at this time

Light Output: ★★★★★

I’ve got to say that light output is very nice on this one! With the current level at recommended max for the emitter, it’s really doing a good job getting the light down range. Well designed reflector as well as very well made and the high quality AR coating on the lens ensure this is true.

On the Box……………….My Measurements

High…1200 lumens…………….1252 lumens

Med…..600 lumens…………….651 lumens

Low…….80 lumens………………99 lumens

Moon…….3 lumens……………..2.86 lumens (:P)

1000M Throw……………………..1003M Throw

250Kcd…………………………….251.25Kcd Lux taken at 5M

Summary: ★★★★★

All in all this is a very nice light. With a superior build quality and outstanding reflector, the factory de-domed XP-L is really cranking out the light. The new side switch is a very nice addition, although not made in a manner we’re familiar with. It’s center is filled with a red LED that warns of low voltage, also a nice touch but I have yet to run a cell down far enough to see at what point this function kicks in. Will try to do that and get back to ya with this information.
Battery run times are something people question, and it’s always such a variable… how strong is the light? How large the capacity on your choice of cell? This one, like all the rest, will run according to what you feed it.

I have to say that I give this light a big thumbs up. Highly recommend it!

Thank you Karen at GearBest.com for providing this light for review. Excellent service, quick delivery, well packaged with extra foam wrapping around the box. Well done!

Very pleased with the upgrades that Olight gave this light over the M2X-UT, nice step up in performance, UI and added features such as the low voltage warning. Glad to see Olight is paying attention! Thank you!

Dale

I took some measurements and Voltage/Current readings this evening, so here’s a bunch more pics as I went about doing this… (keeping them at the end for continuity Wink )

The overall diameter of the head/bezel

Diameter of glass AR lens

Diameter of reflector

Height of reflector

Diameter of driver

And here’s the new trick in the tailcap, a thick gold plated wire that makes contact with the INSIDE of the battery tube. This allows the tail cap to have full ground at any position with the various cell combinations, instead of relying on it sitting on the end of the battery tube like most lights. Slick! Smile

I slipped up and didn’t get a forward voltage reading for moon mode, here’s the current at the emitter in moon…

Voltage then current in the other 3 modes… Low first

Then Medium

Then High

All the forward Voltage and Amperage readings were taken with a pair of Samsung 26C lap pulls in the light, rested sitting at 4.15V. I soldered a 20ga lead in between the negative lead from the driver and the negative pad on the mcpcb such that a loop was formed (about a 4” length of wire) then read the current through my clamp meter. So this is actual current at the emitter, as is the forward Voltage with my leads on the soldered pads.

And here’s a shot of the Family, left to right… M3X Triton, M2X UT Javelot, M3XS-UT Javelot. Smile

Sweet little lights one and all, with the Triton being converted to an MT-G2, the M2X-UT has an FET driver. All together still can’t touch the big brother, as my Olight SR-90 has an XHP-70 in it at 96CRI, making 4620 lumens. :bigsmile: Me? I’m liking my Olights, A LOT!

Edited by: DB Custom on 06/21/2015 - 23:48
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Nice review. Thanks so much. 

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Dale excellent review on what appears to be a really good torch. Smile

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Dale Thanks for the Very Good Review.

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Thanks Dale. I did not really have to read this. The bills in the mail. Wink

 

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Any issues with the step-down? Is it temp-sensitive? 

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Thank you Dale so much for this very good review, and like you said

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Glad to see Olight is paying attention!

Mine is still in processing status on GearBest,and hope they will send it soon…
Those 2 R050 sense resistors !!! hm hm
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Thank you for this very nice review Smile

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Thanks Dale,,,,,,It seems like a very impressive light. I am guessing,,iirc that w/ the 2 × 18650 configuration it is the same size as the M3X?

Here is a quote from Olight that may help answer Rusty Joes question.

This is what I asked the OLIGHT REP:

1.How long does this maintain 1000 lumens/250Kcd? 2.Step down to 720 lumens is in 5 minutes? 3. Are you able to [like my M2Xvn and M3X stock] CONTINUALLY return to MAX output without heat being an issue?

HERE IS HIS ANSWER:

Yes it will step down after 5 minutes. You can continually go back up to the 1200 lumens as long as the temperature sensor does not trigger the step down.

Solitude breeds contemplation which creates clarity. 

Environment molds a person. Perseverance changes them. 

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250 kcd at 2A driven XP-L? Crazy Smile It would be really  cruel to mod this light.

But it really does not need step down after 5 minutes. It would have perfect sense if driven with 4A driver but 2A?...

"All in all this is a very nice light. With a superior build quality and outstanding reflector, the factory de-domed XM-L2 is really cranking out the light."

You mean on XP-L right?

Very nice review from real pro.

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luminarium iaculator wrote:

250 kcd at 2A driven XP-L? Crazy Smile It would be really  cruel to mod this light.

But it really does not need step down after 5 minutes. It would have perfect sense if driven with 4A driver but 2A?…

“All in all this is a very nice light. With a superior build quality and outstanding reflector, the factory de-domed XM-L2 is really cranking out the light.”

You mean on XP-L right?

Very nice review from real pro.


It’s a buck driver, so the tail is only 2amps, but the emitter is getting much higher than that.

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DBCstm wrote:
I measured 2A at the tail on the pair of LG HE-4’s I tried, rested and partially used. Fresh cells show 1.95A at the tail, similar readings on the 18500 flat top lap pulls.

Now Dale, since this is a buck driver your measurement is misleading, that is the input current, since iy is bucking from 8.4V down to 3.5V you need to measure the output current. Let's see the output current, 4A, 5A?

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Thanks for great review

Hope it will be my first thrower

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Havent you read the text,or just watching pictures LED is getting 4A !!!

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There are 2 cells handling the load here, so 2A at the tail (at twice voltage) and 4A at the LED.

Thanks,
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Plan on getting some up-top readings this evening. It’s been a bad day, sorry, just bear with me. Wink

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Thanks for good review! :bigsmile:

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Nice review!! many thanks Wink

You could say the measures reflector?

Thanks!

Sorry for my bad English…

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Nice review, Dale!  Looks a lot better in your pics than on the product pages.  The anodizing looks dark and nice and flat.  Any chance of an in hand pic to get an idea how small or large it is?  I'm imagining it's smaller than I'd think.

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Nice review, I’m waiting for mine to arrive. The GB makes it one of the best deal of the year.

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I added some 20 pictures to the end of the OP, and of course I forgot a few things. I didn’t measure the thickness of the AR lens, forgot to get an forward Voltage of the Moon mode, and didn’t get the in hand shot.

Yes, it’s smallish and lighter then you might expect, but with the very thin bezel giving a large diameter reflector that is sort of surprising. Looking at it from the emitter end, it’s all business!

I’ll get an in hand shot, maybe comparing to a family member… brb

A fuzzy in-hand shot (sorry) And a comparison shot…

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I am pretty sure your last picture at the END of your review of the M3X, M2X and the M3XS, the M3XS does NOT have its extender on. With the 2 × 18650 setup I believe the M3X and M3XS Javelot are very close if not the exact same size?

I am sorry that I always seem to go back to this!! The M3XS Javelot is an awesome accomplishment for a stock light. What holds me back w/ lights like this is my Two2 versions of the M2Xvn[XML2 U3/XPG2] are so much more compact and are 290Kcd and 385Kcd respectively. I only paid $20 more than the M3XS Javelot is for MSRP-$150.

I still use my M3X sometimes in my rotation. But it is such a long light in comparison the ones I just mentioned and others that give as much and more output in a much smaller package.

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Thanks xed888, I saw that in the pics! It’s fixed now. Smile

And I fixed the lack of a link to GearBests website, it’s in the top of the OP now, under the listing of where I got the light.

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Yes, I left off the extension as I like it more compact. I’m using a pair of 18500’s. Wink

Edit: I found I can do this with any ol pair of cells as the regulation circuitry in this light holds the output very constant. So I have no issue using cheap lap pulls here, same out front performance.

Are your Vinh modified lights doing 4A to the XP-G2 or XM-L2? This one is making a de-domed 1200 plus lumens, from the factory. Sure, I could bump the resistors and replace the AR glass with UCLp and see some gains, but why? I can’t see the half-mile plus this one already throws, no need to do anything to it as it’s fresh from the factory awesome without going to any trouble at all. Nice for a change, to not have to make the modifications.

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DBCstm wrote:
Yes, I left off the extension as I like it more compact. I’m using a pair of 18500’s. Wink

Edit: I found I can do this with any ol pair of cells as the regulation circuitry in this light holds the output very constant. So I have no issue using cheap lap pulls here, same out front performance.

Are your Vinh modified lights doing 4A to the XP-G2 or XM-L2? This one is making a de-domed 1200 plus lumens, from the factory. Sure, I could bump the resistors and replace the AR glass with UCLp and see some gains, but why? I can’t see the half-mile plus this one already throws, no need to do anything to it as it’s fresh from the factory awesome without going to any trouble at all. Nice for a change, to not have to make the modifications.

Out of interest, which 18500 do you use with this light? Would unprotected Sanyo 18500s fit?

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Unprotected Sanyo’s are what I’m using, I got a dozen of them out of a laptop battery pack some time ago. They work find. You always have to check that the 2 cells will actually touch each other in the tube, or the light won’t work of course.

I almost bought a pair of AW protected cells for it, but decided I didn’t need to go to that expense as what I have here works fine. Wink

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DBCstm wrote:
Unprotected Sanyo’s are what I’m using, I got a dozen of them out of a laptop battery pack some time ago. They work find. You always have to check that the 2 cells will actually touch each other in the tube, or the light won’t work of course.

I almost bought a pair of AW protected cells for it, but decided I didn’t need to go to that expense as what I have here works fine. Wink

Thanks for the info!

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Now yes! Super complete all information Shocked …. Many thanks for updating data Smile

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NikolaS wrote:
Havent you read the text,or just watching pictures LED is getting 4A !!!

Pictures are updated. Thanks for that.

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XHP 70 with the stock driver? Possible?, since it's a buck driver??

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