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Beam0, aren’t these questions moot since there appears to be a new UI and you can’t buy the old ones any more?

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Beam0, aren’t these questions moot since there appears to be a new UI and you can’t buy the old ones any more?
No, the new UI only changed the 3-mode group from MED-HIGH-STROBE to LOW-MED-HIGH, ramping should still be the same.

New UI:

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JasonWW wrote:
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I can get the OTR M3 full kit for about $9 more, but only in CW right now.

You can? Where?

I only see it for $18 more.

Post #923 – scroll down about halfway – it’s next to the Convoy L6’s:
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1255023#comment-1255023

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If you turn it off while it’s ramping, it turns on and continues ramping.

So the “ramping memory” comes on at the level you stopped ramping at, but doesn’t stay there? It just starts ramping again from that point?

If that’s what it does then ramping memory on this is pretty useless.

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Once you leave the ramping mode, the memory is lost.

Then how is there ramping memory?

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Once you leave the ramping mode, the memory is lost.

Then how is there ramping memory?


It’s not “ramping memory”, it’s memory in general.
You have to turn the light off while in ramping mode, then it will turn on at the same level it was turned off at.

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If you turn it off while it’s ramping, it turns on and continues ramping.

So the “ramping memory” comes on at the level you stopped ramping at, but doesn’t stay there? It just starts ramping again from that point?

If that’s what it does then ramping memory on this is pretty useless.


Your missing the details. I didn’t say it was stopped. I said the light was turned off while it was still going up and down. Whatever the light is doing when it’s turned off, it continues doing when turned back on.

If it’s in the ramping mode and stopped at a certain level and you turn it off, it will turn back on at that same certain level.

Does that make sense?

As it was said before, the ramping feature of this light is not very good. I would much prefer a simple low, med, high. Like 10 lumen, 150 lumen and 500 lumen. That’s all you need. Right now it’s like 150 lumen and 500 lumen. It could use a lower level.

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If it’s in the ramping mode and stopped at a certain level and you turn it off, it will turn back on at that same certain level.

Does that make sense?

Yes it does, sounds like it memorizes the ramping level you stopped at, but confused because you wrote this:
JasonWW wrote:
Once you leave the ramping mode, the memory is lost.
Facepalm

So for example lets say you are in ramping and stop by a single click, then press and hold .5 second to turn off -
then when you press and hold .5 second to turn back on, it will come on at the level where you previously stopped the ramping?

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It does not register a double click from off. It see it as 2 seperate clicks.

A double click from off turns it on at the last used level then advances it to the next level.

You answered earlier that you cannot enter ramping mode with a double click from off, so what mode does it enter “at the last used level” with a double click from off?

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It’s ok if you don’t want to answer more, If I’m still confused I won’t ask about it anymore, I’ll just find out how it works when it arrives. Smile

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As it was said before, the ramping feature of this light is not very good. I would much prefer a simple low, med, high. Like 10 lumen, 150 lumen and 500 lumen. That’s all you need. Right now it’s like 150 lumen and 500 lumen. It could use a lower level.
Sounds like the upgraded UI will have that lower mode. L-M-H

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beam0 wrote:
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If it’s in the ramping mode and stopped at a certain level and you turn it off, it will turn back on at that same certain level.

Does that make sense?

Yes it does, sounds like it memorizes the ramping level you stopped at, but confused because you wrote this:
JasonWW wrote:
Once you leave the ramping mode, the memory is lost.
Facepalm

So for example lets say you are in ramping and stop by a single click, then press and hold .5 second to turn off -
then when you press and hold .5 second to turn back on, it will come on at the level where you previously stopped the ramping?


Both of my quotes are true. They do not contradict each other.

If you are not in ramping mode, then how can you turn the light off in ramping mode?

If your not in ramping mode, then that means you are either at the low, high or strobe level. So if it’s low and you turn the light off, it will turn back on in low.

Btw, it won’t turn on by a press and hold. Turn on is a single click. It’s turn off that is a press and hold.

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beam0 wrote:
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It does not register a double click from off. It sees it as 2 seperate clicks.

A double click from off turns it on at the last used level then advances it to the next level.

You answered earlier that you cannot enter ramping mode with a double click from off, so what mode does it enter “at the last used level” with a double click from off?


Do you know what I mean by “last used level”? It is whatever you were in when you turned it off.

Let’s say you were on low, then turned it off. A double click is just 2 clicks. So the first click turns it on in low and the second click switches it to high.

Let’s say you were on high, then turned it off. A double click is just 2 clicks. So the first click turns it on in high and the second click switches it to strobe.

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I’ll make a video of it showing the modes and memory functions.

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Despite JasonWW has been answering some questions about the UI (thanks Jason!), I will reply to the questions you placed directly to me:

beam0 wrote:
MascaratumB, Thanks for your answers.In an earlier post you wrote:
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It doesn’t go that UP nor that DOWN while in the “steppless dimming” mode, so it is like a no-no!

What exactly did you mean by that?

I meant that the range between Top and Bottom is not “tremendous”. In some lights with ramping mode (Emisar D4, Sofirn SP32A, aand maybe BLF Q8 (don’t have one to be 100%)) the lowest output is super low, like a moonlight or a firefly level, and the highest output is really bright.
On this Jaxmnve M3, that difference isn’t astonishing! The lowest mode isn’t “moonlight” and the highest isn’t turbo! That is why I said it is a “no-no” : no moonlight, no turbo Wink

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MascaratumB wrote:
One thing you must be aware is the ramping mode. It is quite similar to this that freeme posted here: http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1200893#comment-1200893

In freeme’s vid it appears when ramping reaches max or min it doesn’t blink or pause, it just immediately reverses direction. So no pause when reaches min. and no blinking when it reaches max. Flat Stare Flat Stare

Yup, that’s it! It doesn’t blink and it doesn’t stop when it reaches the top or the bottom. So, that way, you don’t get a warning of when you get top nor bottom! Also, if it starts ramping up or down, it won’t stop until you press the switch to stop it.
Like I mentioned above, this light is not like the Emisar D4 or the Sofirn SP32A (or others) that have the “blinks” and that stop ramping when reaching the top or bottom limit!

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MascaratumB wrote:
when it starts ramping in one direction (up or down), even if you stop it, next time you hit the button it will ramp up or down, and it will only ramp in the opposite direction after reaching the top or bottom limit!

By this do you mean if you stop and then restart the ramping it will continue in the same direction as before you stopped? I only have one light with ramping and that’s what it does, so that seems normal to me. Do other ramping UI’s do something different?

I guess JasonWW has already answered to these questions, so I won’t reply as I might create confusion Wink
But, when turned OFF, this light has memory for ALL the levels or modes. So it will even turn ON in strobe if that was the last used mode!

Like I said before, and also agreeing with the levels that JasonWW mentioned above, I guess the new UI (L-M-H) will be much more user friendly and useful Smile

BTW, to those interested in On The Road flashlights, besides Gearbest, they are also sold here:
AliExpress: https://ontheroad.aliexpress.com/store/3081046?spm=2114.search0104.3.5.X...
Fasttech: https://www.fasttech.com/search?on%20the%20road%20flashlight
Enogear: http://www.enogear.com/pr.jsp?m22pageno=3&_pp=0_455_5#fai_22_top

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Btw, it won’t turn on by a press and hold. Turn on is a single click. It’s turn off that is a press and hold.
Ah Ha! I thought initial turn on was a long press, this is the reason why I was so confused about the double click from off !! – now it makes total sense.

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The reason I thought initial turn on was a long press is because that’s how it is described in the listing, but in the description of the new UI – (first words in the photo description of the new UI), and because there is no other description of the (old) UI.

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…So it appears the new UI is now a long press for ON instead of a single click – just like the OTR M3:

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………………………………………………………………. “long press starts at 0.5 seconds”……………………………………………………………………..

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I thought the only changes to the UI were just the 3-mode changing to L-M-H and the strobe being hidden, but now I have a feeling there is more to it.

And now I’m thinking (hopfully) the new UI might start ramping from off with a double click and hold, (it appears that way in the above photo description of the new UI: “Stepless dimming: Double click and press enter”) – and that’s why the initial turn on was changed to long press instead of single click.

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Except for the double click to turbo, initial start for this new UI would be same as the OTR M3 – (Long press 0.5 sec = ON), (Triple click = STROBE).
Then (hopefully) a double click and hold from off enters ramping (instead of double click for turbo on the OTR)

So Jason as you said earlier… this discussion may be moot because I have a feeling there are more changes than what I had thought. Thanks for the reply this clears things up now, no need to make a vid of the old UI but thanks for trying to help me understand!

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MascaratumB wrote:
Despite JasonWW has been answering some questions about the UI (thanks Jason!), I will reply to the questions you placed directly to me:…………………………………………
Thanks for your answers and info!!

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Good news, I got confirmation from JAXMNVE today that the new UI is indeed what I thought (and wrote in my previous post about it):

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From OFF:
Long press 0.5 seconds = ON (enter 3-mode)

From OFF:
Double Click = enter Stepless Dimming

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So now, using memory we can have quick access from off to low and high. Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

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I just got two of them in. I ordered two of what is described as the yellow tint on product description page. Shipping took 3-4 weeks Both showed up bubble wrapped in a manila envelope with accessories. Battery, lanyard, O-rings, spare lens, charging cord.
I have some appointments but I will try and post a few pics at least until I can make vid showing UI since there looks like may be some confusion.

The JAXMNVE M3 is on left, followed by an OnTheRoad U16, and The New Wubenlight TO10Ron the right.
All three have usb charging, 16340 cells, magnetic bases, but all have very different UI’s and emitters.
I am working up some reviews, but it will be this coming weekend at earliest.
So far I like the little JAXMNVE M3 clone, but it does have a few things that could be improved upon. But at this price point, it’s really very very nice. More soon.

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MRsDNF wrote:
JasonWW wrote:
Are you seeing an $18 M3 somewhere else?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mini-flashlight-USB-charging-EDC-ultra-small-hand-light-portable-16340-miniature-pocket-side-by-flashlight/32821588455.html?

Try this link.


!!!!!! You’re pockets are deeper than mine . . . the light is listed for $10k

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sbslider wrote:
MRsDNF wrote:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mini-flashlight-USB-charging-EDC-ultra-small-hand-light-portable-16340-miniature-pocket-side-by-flashlight/32821588455.html?

Try this link.


!!!!!! You’re pockets are deeper than mine . . . the light is listed for $10k

That’s just a place holder. They do that when they are out of stock. Check back later and it will be $13 again. (Or $26, depending if its on sale or not)

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I have some appointments but I will try and post a few pics at least until I can make vid showing UI since there looks like may be some confusion.

would be interested to see that

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Just received mine today, wish I could read the user manual, the light looks real nice, I’m impressed, charging it now…



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Nice that you received yours Wink

When you try it, let us know how the UI works to check if it is a new one or the old one! Wink

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MascaratumB wrote:
Nice that you received yours Wink

When you try it, let us know how the UI works to check if it is a new one or the old one! Wink


So far…

the good:
USB charged it to 4.1, I pulled it a few hrs. after the light went green.
It’s very bright!
3 modes are Low-Mid-High (not Mid-High-Strobe)

The bad:
No ramping? (EDIT) and no 3-click hidden strobe? (EDIT 2)

Thanks MascaratumB for asking about trying “from ON” it made me try again harder from ON and I got it now Thumbs Up (see next few posts)

And the strobe also works from ON (3 clicks) Thumbs Up
It’s all good! Smile

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And double click from ON? Have you tried?

EDIT: on my (old) version that’s the way it changes group modes, double click from ON!

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MascaratumB wrote:
And double click from ON? Have you tried?
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YES!

I did try that originally too and forgot to add it in my comment. But now that you asked I tried it again and after about 7-8 tries I finally double clicked it just right (from ON) to enter ramp. It seems to be a rapid double click and RELEASE

(I thought you would have to hold in the button for ramping, that’s how my other ramping lights work)

…with this light to start in ramping you don’t hold the button down, when you release it ramps on its own (without pressing / holding the switch) Then a single click to stop and hold the level, another single click re-starts ramping again.

A double click during ramping toggles back to 3-mode.
A double click from the level that you stopped ramping at also toggles back to 3-mode

Ramping is smooth and quick, there’s no flashes or stops at highest or lowest levels.
Ramping memory: If you turn it off during ramping (long press) next time on will start in ramping again.

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Sorry I keep editing that last post as I’m learning it Facepalm
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My other ramping lights you have to hold in the button for ramping and release to stop/hold

This one you release to enter, then it ramps “hands free” then click to stop/hold

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A rundown of the UI

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Nice video. I think this new UI is a big improvement over the first one. I often have trouble remembering on is a fast click and off is a long click. I get it mixed up sometimes. Lol.

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JasonWW wrote:
Nice video. I think this new UI is a big improvement over the first one. I often have trouble remembering on is a fast click and off is a long click. I get it mixed up sometimes. Lol.
I totally agree, I hate when they do that, (are you listening Olight?) it’s so confusing, especially when you have a bunch of different lights. Make it the same for on and off !

Although I prefer the other way around: Single click for on and off, long press to scroll the levels. I love it when you can just click the damn thing on and off, so simple, it just feels right, like an old maglite. I think that’s my favorite UI, it’s what the Thrunite TC20 has.

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Note: Not sure if Olight has changed that, my S15 / S20 / S30 are pretty old, but they all have that crappy UI.

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Thanks for the video Dirty_Pierre! It helped to solidify beam0 posts above about the UI! Much better than the light I have, that has the “old” UI!

The ramping seems “Crescendo”, as it doesn’t stop on bottom or top and it is not controlable by the user, although Crescendo has “blinks” to let one know it has reached the top or bottom!

I wish I was able to mod this light’s driver, it is pretty nice…

Thanks for the demonstration!

beam0 wrote:
JasonWW wrote:
Nice video. I think this new UI is a big improvement over the first one. I often have trouble remembering on is a fast click and off is a long click. I get it mixed up sometimes. Lol.
I totally agree, I hate when they do that, (are you listening Olight?) it’s so confusing, especially when you have a bunch of different lights. Make it the same for on and off !

Although I prefer the other way around: Single click for on and off, long press to scroll the levels. I love it when you can just click the damn thing on and off, so simple, it just feels right, like an old maglite. I think that’s my favorite UI, it’s what the Thrunite TC20 has.

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Note: Not sure if Olight has changed that, my S15 / S20 / S30 are pretty old, but they all have that crappy UI.

Hum, I have the S1R Baton (16340), and I like 2 things on its UI: you can jump to the Turbo 1 (600lm) with double click from OFF, and can enter Moonlight with press and hold. That way, despite you may have forgotten the last used mode, you can always start on the lowest mode Wink

Actually, I wish other lights had the same UI! (direct access to ML and Turbo are a very big plus for me)

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