I finally got my hands on a few 3rd generation eneloops!
They are already available in Japan for quite a while, but was waiting to come across some good deals.. but unfortunately that seems to take ages.. So I went ahead and bought it at the cheapest place I could find The fun part is that the cheapest are actually the special Chocolat tones, and not the original white ones.. I dont mind.. they look pretty sweet!
Today was a little stormy here in Tokyo, so I had to cut short my little trip to my favorite place in town, Akihabara. Anybody been there?
Here are some pics of the AAA`s The packaging looks really good as well, and the nice thing is that all the batts are lined up very well. as you can notice, all the cells are numbered! (like Kreisler said before, about the Glitter eneloops) Also the production date is printed. September 2011.
I finally got my hands on a few 3rd generation eneloops!
They are already available in Japan for quite a while, but was waiting to come across some good deals.. but unfortunately that seems to take ages.. So I went ahead and bought it at the cheapest place I could find The fun part is that the cheapest are actually the special Chocolat tones, and not the original white ones.. I dont mind.. they look pretty sweet!
Today was a little stormy here in Tokyo, so I had to cut short my little trip to my favorite place in town, Akihabara. Anybody been there?
Here are some pics of the AAA`s The packaging looks really good as well, and the nice thing is that all the batts are lined up very well. as you can notice, all the cells are numbered! (like Kreisler said before, about the Glitter eneloops) Also the production date is printed. September 2011.
I gotta have some of those!
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Don wrote:
"But as I said long ago, you are more likely to be killed by a dead fish dropped by a seagull in the Sahara Desert than by a lithium ion
3rd gen looks pretty close to the 2nd gen. 1800 times I dont really care about. Im not going to charge batteries 1800 times vs 1500 times, not much difference to me.
eneloops are 2000mah, GP batteries are 2500mah. Is it much of a difference and worth the difference in price?
It's not the mah, it's the ability of the battery to take high drain for long periods of time and maintain 1.1v-1.2v. Most of the high powered emitters would be considered high drain when set on high 3+amps. Eneloops have been proven to be one of the best AA NiMH at taking high drain for longer periods of time, plus they are low discharge and retain their charge when not used. Even though they are 2000mah, they can take 3 & 5 amp drains for longer and hold voltage longer than many AA batteries. Some Batteries used for RC like Sub C NiMH and other "odd sized" NiMH can have up to 40 amp drain for short periods of time, so in a flashlight pulling 6 to 9 amps, they do quite well also. Most high mah NiMH batteries prove out to be not so good at high drain and they have too much voltage sag too soon.
That is my opinion only and I am not any kind of expert on anything....
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eneloops are 2000mah, GP batteries are 2500mah. Is it much of a difference and worth the difference in price?
It's not the mah, it's the ability of the battery to take high drain for long periods of time and maintain 1.1v-1.2v. Most of the high powered emitters would be considered high drain when set on high 3+amps. Eneloops have been proven to be one of the best AA NiMH at taking high drain for longer periods of time, plus they are low discharge and retain their charge when not used. Even though they are 2000mah, they can take 3 & 5 amp drains for longer and hold voltage longer than many AA batteries. Some Batteries used for RC like Sub C NiMH and other "odd sized" NiMH can have up to 40 amp drain for short periods of time, so in a flashlight pulling 6 to 9 amps, they do quite well also. Most high mah NiMH batteries prove out to be not so good at high drain and they have too much voltage sag too soon.
That is my opinion only and I am not any kind of expert on anything....
I'm not planning to use these batteries in a flashlight but in a camera, so i don't know if for that purpose eneloops or GP are the best
eneloops are 2000mah, GP batteries are 2500mah. Is it much of a difference and worth the difference in price?
It's not the mah, it's the ability of the battery to take high drain for long periods of time and maintain 1.1v-1.2v. Most of the high powered emitters would be considered high drain when set on high 3+amps. Eneloops have been proven to be one of the best AA NiMH at taking high drain for longer periods of time, plus they are low discharge and retain their charge when not used. Even though they are 2000mah, they can take 3 & 5 amp drains for longer and hold voltage longer than many AA batteries. Some Batteries used for RC like Sub C NiMH and other "odd sized" NiMH can have up to 40 amp drain for short periods of time, so in a flashlight pulling 6 to 9 amps, they do quite well also. Most high mah NiMH batteries prove out to be not so good at high drain and they have too much voltage sag too soon.
That is my opinion only and I am not any kind of expert on anything....
I'm not planning to use these batteries in a flashlight but in a camera, so i don't know if for that purpose eneloops or GP are the best
It really depends on charge retention - but camera flashes draw heavy current from the cells. As Old-Lumens has said, Eneloops are good at heavy draw, other LSDs may or may not be.
For normal use in adequate light the higher nominal capacity will probably win especially if you are taking lots of pictures. I you don't use the camera regularly, it depends on self-dischage rates - which may vary. I've not tried the GP cells but if I can find them for a sensible price (i.e., less than the same number of Eneloops) I'l put some on test for a while. It will take a year or so to get final results. If the GP cells are cheaper than eneloops I'd try a set, if they cost more I'd wait till someone else tests them.
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The numbers from my light tests are always to be found here.
eneloops are 2000mah, GP batteries are 2500mah. Is it much of a difference and worth the difference in price?
It's not the mah, it's the ability of the battery to take high drain for long periods of time and maintain 1.1v-1.2v. Most of the high powered emitters would be considered high drain when set on high 3+amps. Eneloops have been proven to be one of the best AA NiMH at taking high drain for longer periods of time, plus they are low discharge and retain their charge when not used. Even though they are 2000mah, they can take 3 & 5 amp drains for longer and hold voltage longer than many AA batteries. Some Batteries used for RC like Sub C NiMH and other "odd sized" NiMH can have up to 40 amp drain for short periods of time, so in a flashlight pulling 6 to 9 amps, they do quite well also. Most high mah NiMH batteries prove out to be not so good at high drain and they have too much voltage sag too soon.
That is my opinion only and I am not any kind of expert on anything....
I'm not planning to use these batteries in a flashlight but in a camera, so i don't know if for that purpose eneloops or GP are the best
I have used eneloops (1st & 2nd gen) for about a 1.5 yrs. for my canon 7d dslr (6 aa batteries in the battery grip) more than I use the li-ion battery that came with the camera. Eneloops last longer with my camera gear imo. I also use the 2500mah exxeloops for my speedlite 430ex ii flash and have never had a problem....ever.
You can't go wrong using eneloops.
Eneloops are THE best aa/aaa nimh batteries, period.
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Don wrote:
"But as I said long ago, you are more likely to be killed by a dead fish dropped by a seagull in the Sahara Desert than by a lithium ion
Ive been using 2nd gen 2000mAh Eneloops in my point and shoot digicam for ~1.5y, works great! Was eating primaries like theres no tomorrow, while with Eneloops it stays up and running almost like forever, unless you do HD/FullHD recording, that eats up them faster than regular picture taking with or without flash.
Edit:
Just checked HR-3UTGB prices on ebay.com:
26$ for 4 pieces of Disney themed and 17$ shipping fee to EU.
I wonder why it takes them so long to release 3rd gen outside Japan?
I like Eneloops, but if you go looking for a bargain on them, you might end up with fakes. Be very careful. If you want to save a little money, there are other brands of LSD NiMH's that are still way better than normal NiMH's that self-discharge in a month. Definitely get LSD batteries, get Eneloops if you can afford them.
On photo forums Eneloops reign, except for pros who will charge non-LSD batteries the night before the shoot and benefit from their larger capacity before self-discharge has gotten the time to do any substantial damage.
Other than having plenty of eneloops in my camera bag, I always make sure I have an extra set or 2 of freshly charged maha powerex 2700's to use with my flash. They last longer than eneloops and even though they aren't lsd's, I had a set of 4 powerex 2700's that held a 100% charge for 30 weeks. Not too shabby.
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Don wrote:
"But as I said long ago, you are more likely to be killed by a dead fish dropped by a seagull in the Sahara Desert than by a lithium ion
I've been buying Eneloops for several years , and if you want 100% guaranteed authentic cells , you need to buy from Thomas Distributing.
The best deal is their 16 Pack on Amazon for $38. You can also order from their site but you have to pay shipping, if you order through them on Amazon you get FREE shipping.
All their batteries come with free battery holders too, which is GREAT.
So far I've bought 3 Maha chargers, and around 100 eneloops from them over the past 2-3 years.
They are hands down the best company to get eneloops from, No point in dealing on ebay and trying to score them a couple bucks cheaper and risk getting fake cells.
Their customer service is top notch, one of my Maha C9000's power supply went dead 6 months after I bought it from them, I called them and they sent me a new one overnight free of charge!!!! You can't beat that.
I finally got my hands on a few 3rd generation eneloops!
They are already available in Japan for quite a while, but was waiting to come across some good deals.. but unfortunately that seems to take ages.. So I went ahead and bought it at the cheapest place I could find
The fun part is that the cheapest are actually the special Chocolat tones, and not the original white ones.. I dont mind.. they look pretty sweet!
Today was a little stormy here in Tokyo, so I had to cut short my little trip to my favorite place in town, Akihabara. Anybody been there?
Here are some pics of the AAA`s
The packaging looks really good as well, and the nice thing is that all the batts are lined up very well.
as you can notice, all the cells are numbered! (like Kreisler said before, about the Glitter eneloops)
Also the production date is printed. September 2011.
The Eneloop 2005-2021 info thread
Sweet, cant wait for 3rd gen AA's to appear with cheap shipping world wide!
Don't eat them! They're not really chocolate.
They sure look good though.
I'm looking for rechargeable AA nimh for my camera, what eneloops should i buy/where?
ChibiM, how much did you get them for?
I like: walks on the beach, sushi and things that are paisley.
I gotta have some of those!
Don wrote:
"But as I said long ago, you are more likely to be killed by a dead fish dropped by a seagull in the Sahara Desert than by a lithium ion
Those you can actually buy.
www.nkon.nl should cost you less in postage than they cost me.
Their prices are good compared to UK prices and your postage should be less.
The numbers from my light tests are always to be found here.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ApkFM37n_QnRdDU5MDNzOURjYllmZHI...
Excellent supplier for EUROPE, but their Eneloop are not 3rd GEN I'm afraid...
eneloops are 2000mah, GP batteries are 2500mah. Is it much of a difference and worth the difference in price?
3rd gen looks pretty close to the 2nd gen. 1800 times I dont really care about. Im not going to charge batteries 1800 times vs 1500 times, not much difference to me.
That is my opinion only and I am not any kind of expert on anything....
My PayPal address: oldlumens (insert the @ sign here) gmail.com
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I'm not planning to use these batteries in a flashlight but in a camera, so i don't know if for that purpose eneloops or GP are the best
It really depends on charge retention - but camera flashes draw heavy current from the cells. As Old-Lumens has said, Eneloops are good at heavy draw, other LSDs may or may not be.
For normal use in adequate light the higher nominal capacity will probably win especially if you are taking lots of pictures. I you don't use the camera regularly, it depends on self-dischage rates - which may vary. I've not tried the GP cells but if I can find them for a sensible price (i.e., less than the same number of Eneloops) I'l put some on test for a while. It will take a year or so to get final results. If the GP cells are cheaper than eneloops I'd try a set, if they cost more I'd wait till someone else tests them.
The numbers from my light tests are always to be found here.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ApkFM37n_QnRdDU5MDNzOURjYllmZHI...
I have used eneloops (1st & 2nd gen) for about a 1.5 yrs. for my canon 7d dslr (6 aa batteries in the battery grip) more than I use the li-ion battery that came with the camera. Eneloops last longer with my camera gear imo. I also use the 2500mah exxeloops for my speedlite 430ex ii flash and have never had a problem....ever.
You can't go wrong using eneloops.
Eneloops are THE best aa/aaa nimh batteries, period.
Don wrote:
"But as I said long ago, you are more likely to be killed by a dead fish dropped by a seagull in the Sahara Desert than by a lithium ion
Ive been using 2nd gen 2000mAh Eneloops in my point and shoot digicam for ~1.5y, works great! Was eating primaries like theres no tomorrow, while with Eneloops it stays up and running almost like forever, unless you do HD/FullHD recording, that eats up them faster than regular picture taking with or without flash.
Edit:
Just checked HR-3UTGB prices on ebay.com:
26$ for 4 pieces of Disney themed and 17$ shipping fee to EU.
I wonder why it takes them so long to release 3rd gen outside Japan?
ty guys for your help, gonna buy me some sets of eneloops 2000mah i think!
Just a few days ago I received the standard white AA and AAA Eneloops from here:
http://www.voelkner.de/search/fact-search.html?SID=e7562f92752e1c4d65529c22b81b0f5b&keywords=eneloop&queryFromSuggest=true
They are the 1500 cycles version. Shipping to Slovenia was 10 EUR, by DHL.
You won't be disappointed.
Don wrote:
"But as I said long ago, you are more likely to be killed by a dead fish dropped by a seagull in the Sahara Desert than by a lithium ion
I like Eneloops, but if you go looking for a bargain on them, you might end up with fakes. Be very careful. If you want to save a little money, there are other brands of LSD NiMH's that are still way better than normal NiMH's that self-discharge in a month. Definitely get LSD batteries, get Eneloops if you can afford them.
Here some pics of the cells and packages.
AA package
AAA
AA close ups.. (pics dont really justify! ,colors are much nicer when you see them in person)
The Eneloop 2005-2021 info thread
Don wrote:
"But as I said long ago, you are more likely to be killed by a dead fish dropped by a seagull in the Sahara Desert than by a lithium ion
On photo forums Eneloops reign, except for pros who will charge non-LSD batteries the night before the shoot and benefit from their larger capacity before self-discharge has gotten the time to do any substantial damage.
Other than having plenty of eneloops in my camera bag, I always make sure I have an extra set or 2 of freshly charged maha powerex 2700's to use with my flash. They last longer than eneloops and even though they aren't lsd's, I had a set of 4 powerex 2700's that held a 100% charge for 30 weeks. Not too shabby.
Don wrote:
"But as I said long ago, you are more likely to be killed by a dead fish dropped by a seagull in the Sahara Desert than by a lithium ion
The chocolate ones look more like camouflage batteries than chocolate
Can anyone tell me if these appear to be real? (clicky)
They are about $20 a 4 pack here, so $6 for 2 sounds like a good deal for me.
Hard to tell if they are fake. On eBay I would assume they are fake unless you know someone else who has gotten genuine ones from the same seller.
I would buy only from reputable seller who has sold these to someone who can confirm that they are genuine.
How would they tell if they were genuine or not if they had them?
I bought 1 anyway, Ill post detailed pics when I get them to see if anyone can spot anything unusual.
Hmm they have sold a lot and there are no negative feedback for them.
Ill post pics when I get them to see if you guys can spot anything wrong as I don't have genuine ones to compare them to.
Or maybe I can try to compare them to ones in a shop.
I've been buying Eneloops for several years , and if you want 100% guaranteed authentic cells , you need to buy from Thomas Distributing.
The best deal is their 16 Pack on Amazon for $38. You can also order from their site but you have to pay shipping, if you order through them on Amazon you get FREE shipping.
All their batteries come with free battery holders too, which is GREAT.
So far I've bought 3 Maha chargers, and around 100 eneloops from them over the past 2-3 years.
They are hands down the best company to get eneloops from, No point in dealing on ebay and trying to score them a couple bucks cheaper and risk getting fake cells.
Their customer service is top notch, one of my Maha C9000's power supply went dead 6 months after I bought it from them, I called them and they sent me a new one overnight free of charge!!!! You can't beat that.
Here's the link to buy from them on Amazon
16 Pack New Version Sanyo Eneloop 2000 MAH AA
You can also get other quantity's of AA and AAA and charger/battery combos (including the new eneloop XX 2500mah version)
If you want top notch customer service, genuine eneloop cells, then Thomas distributing is the only ones I can recommend.
I'm sure others will agree with me
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