Opple Light Master III (G3) discussion thread (Cheap device for measuring Lux, CCT + CRI)

Ok, so that is further off than mine… but please remember these are not a scientific instrument. We have test equipment at work that verifies the frequency and deviation on DWDM tuned and tunable optics… the device costs thousands of dollars and have a very narrow spectral range and better be accurate and they are but this is only a general tool for a hobby use.

The problem is that most lights we have access to have never been tested in a scientific manner for CCT and spectrum, so we do not have a known reference source to compare to. Tint, CCT, CRI and DUV vary based on batches and bins of emitters and can even vary within a given bin of any emitter. Those of us who have built dozens to hundreds of lights over the years have a good idea about CCT, CRI and DUV when we pick up a light, this will confirm our ideas. If this site and others were not around that hosted pics… And lets say that someone new to lights decided to get a light and did not understand CCT and CRI and just ordered random lights. They will eventually pick a favorite without knowing what any of the numbers are, how would you know what to reorder? This is where you have to go back to the specs of the light and find out what emitter, what CCT and what CRI the emitter is. If you know the emitter and have a good idea of the CCT you can and should go the the manufacturers datasheet and verify and study what you believe. For the newer light person, this tool can give you guidance for the veteran light person, it does things like confirm why 1 light out of 10 that looks amazing edges out the other 9. One could also confirm that proper LED’s were shipped in a bulk order, to some degree.

I find that it can be very close, but it takes work. Much like reading very low amperages, you must use a tool you trust and use it consistently. For me, this is what works…

1) For quick reads, dark room as much of the hot spot as possible on the sensor from about 8 inches as long as the LUX read is around 20 to 25 thousand.
2) For a more accurate read I have built a shoebox lined with white foam. The sensor sits in one end and the light is introduced thru a hole on the other end. Still read from 20 to 25 thousand lux.

One can still read at much lower lux, but that is also a much lower drive current and remember this is known to affect things like tint of the emitter. But, this is useful as you once again can find out why that one light with an underdriven SST-20 looks so much better than the others that have the same emitter, hint… look at the color coordinates.

I really like the tool, within it’s limits. I feel lucky to have such a cheap device available to me to help draw inferences about something as subjective as light. Would I like to have something more accurate? Sure, but it has never been something that I really felt a strong desire to finance, own and learn to operate.

I am typing off the cuff hear, likely I have said something wrong… if so correct away.

AliExpress winter sale is coming in 3 days and it seems that the prices of both the G2 and G3 model will be heavily discounted. Do take note if you want to get yours hands on it before the supply runs out.

It's not heavily discounted from their regular price.

$19 - $22 are similar to their regular prices.

They hiked up their prices significantly so that the "sale" looks good.

Okay that is some shady business practices right there…. thanks for letting us know.

They are still "on sale" if you compare it to the regular price a few months ago: $32-$35 , and I even paid about $50 locally.

(edit: it was actually € 47.15 (which is about $50)

that is not necessarily correct
in the very first post of this thread:

after that I contacted them and they offered a lower price, I paid about $33

after that the price went lower around Xmas… then the sale ended, and soon the sale starts again

so, no, not shady imo… just Sales and Marketing with significant discounts

anyone who wants one, can buy it for less than I paid… And Im Really Happy I own an Opple…

definitely recommended

go here, get the sale:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003302809897.html
(not affiliated, just a fan)

I beg to differ about sales and marketing ().
The meter goes down by some 64% from the “regular price”. This is not consistent with the typical 5-10% (about so) of the Chinese New Year/11.11 sales. So I see this as price jacking.

Regardless, the ‘winter sale’ is an opportunity to get the device, which is in itself trustworthy.

I’m in Canada and there are rules regarding price jacking to create an illusion of deep discounts. As an example: Sears Canada was notified, then reprimanded, and finally fined for their ‘yoyo’ price strategy. I’m not familiar with the details and legal battle but it did make headlines and didn’t help their plight to stay alive.

And no, this is not government interference to free-market economics. It’s evening out the playing field and protecting the consumer from deceptive practices.

Too bad that they don’t ship to Germany. :frowning:

Not a bad price 34.88eu

Unfortunately they do not ship to NL as well

I can order it for you. Then I can send or you’re most welcome to visit Poland. I live 3 hours of driving from Berlin.

Plus you can tank cheaper fuel here.

Still 10 € more than AliExpress (and 6 € shipping as well).

Thanks for the offer, but Berlin is 3 hours of driving away from me. :wink:

I still have some (older) colorimeters somewhere, maybe they will work good enough with a diffuser.

According to tracking, my Opple landed in a town near mine on the 16th. It is now in a different State (Jan. 18th update). Any idea what's going on?

I purchased one and found that I needed to shine the light directly at the sensor IF the flashlight’s beam has tint shift. Using my integrating tube it would measure the light all together and be way off. The Brinyte HL16 is very cool at 7000K in the very center, but through the tube it’s around 4800K. The beam profile has heaps of yellow in the spill which is causing a wrong reading

Since a certain person began heading up the USPS, the quality of service has suffered tremendously. BY DESIGN. Trying to get that fiend out of his position has been like pulling teeth without local anesthesia. And of course, he’s “protected” until the board gets reshuffled.

Anyway, I’ve had several packages that were either shipped in state or from an adjacent state end up going elsewhere first. And I mean, unusually far. I’m in NJ. Sender was in NJ, less than 1 hour driving distance. It ended up in… LOUISIANA! There was no good reason for that. You can supply delivery instructions on a tracking number. When my package showed up in Shreveport LA, I immediately wrote a delivery instructions note. I indicated the package was misdirected, repeated my address, and then… the package ended up in a kind of “stasis” for 4 days. On the 5th, it landed back in NJ. I finally got it. No damage. Address label not only plain as day, but had been electronically printed with a bar code. There was absolutely no excuse.

[ /RANT ]

The Series 2 is still available. But I’d much rather pay a couple dollars more for the G3 Pro. I guess that won’t be back in stock until sometime in March or April.

Can someone explain all the info in the Flicker Tab. What’s the Risk Assessment and the 3 fields: Flicker Index, Modulation depth, Frequency. Then there’s the Raw Data Tab with Maximum, Minimum, Average.

Is this measuring the PWM on the graph?

Following your link, they linked a new version for that sensor, datasheet: https://ams.com/documents/20143/36005/AS7341_DS000504_3-00.pdf/5eca1f59-46e2-6fc5-daf5-d71ad90c9b2b . It would be nice if Opple used it for a new version of the Lightmaster.

Yeah they have an official distributor in Germany, so they are blocking AE sales to us. :frowning:

Don’t think we ever see 20 bucks Opples ever again with the chip shortage.

The graph shows the time signal of the lux-measurement. By FFT-Analyses (I guess), the Opple estimates the PWM frequency. Modulation depth ist the ratio between (max-min) and max in percent. Again, just guessing, haven’t seen the firmware source code.

@ Funtastic:

Dave has done some research post #50
And a link to waveform metric BenchMark

So the ‘Flicker Index’ takes into account the total light intensity over a duty cycle as opposed to ‘Flicker Percent’ which accounts only for the high/low values.