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**P60 design**

Hey guys im looking for some help on a custom P60 drop, i found a pic from CPF with measurements but id like to see if there correct ?

the reason for this is that id like to have a run made at a reasonable cost (not sure on cost yet) depends on the design i will have these done in copper and aluminum 

i think a 20mm optic will be most used ? correct me if im wrong <<???

im looking for a design that will fit a 20mm optic and if u dont want to use a optic u can use a reflector

here is the pic i found i dont have a good drop in to measure from so i need some help Smile

 

 

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I can’t be of much help, but I would be interested if the price is right

Edit: I can measure one when I get home

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i see that some are around $80ish for a complete one but it will be way cheaper than that

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Yeah I would just want the empty heatsink in aluminum

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Ok I measured a standard P60 shell without the spring.

A=26.28mm
B=21.57
C=14.37
D= 2.27
E=21.70
F=27.62

Those match pretty well with the graphic

The “B” value can be made bigger for better thermal contact. On a Solarforce L2m that area of the light is 22.35mm wide, on a wf-502b it is 23.93mm.

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I think the 26mm / 26.5mm optics would be more appropriate than 20mm?

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yea your correct wight i must been thinking about my other HS, for the bottom should i have it to fit a 20mm board and use a brass ring to fit a 17mm driver if needed ?

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nitro wrote:

yea your correct wight i must been thinking about my other HS, for the bottom should i have it to fit a 20mm board and use a brass ring to fit a 17mm driver if needed ?

The bottom of this assembly extends into the battery tube IIRC. There is not enough space for a 20mm driver, so you should stick with 17mm.

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thanks wight im brain storming with out a host in my hands, the mail man has mine Smile

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yes, wight remembers correctly. the angled bit at the bottom has to fit past a retaining ledge in the host. it has to stay a 17mm driver and the heatsink will need to be stepped/angled accordingly

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A triple 17dd P60. Me like Smile

"Whoa that's a bright light!" ... Yea I guess.

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Chazzy wrote:
A triple 17dd P60. Me like :)

 

that's what im shooting for, 

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i would like to get yet another p60 host for testing this hs any recommendations on what to buy ??

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IMO Solarforce is the only cheap brand which sells P60 hosts and can also be counted on to have consistent tolerances. All your other options which are consistent enough for snug mass produced heatsinks are either expensive or really expensive.

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imo a solarforce host is a must-have for a flashlight enthusiast. A wf-502b costs ~$5, a solarforce l2 costs ~$12. Having both, it’s amazing what that extra $7 gets you. The solarforce is completely worth the money.

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What about doing a quad version? Quad XPL + DD?

I like the silver plated ones that was produced just awhile back but all that copper is too heavy. I’d be interested in some aluminum ones.

L2T is one of my favorite host from Solarforce. I believe the P1 has lots of plastic and may not be the best choice for a hot drop in.

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illuminos wrote:
[snip] I believe the P1 has lots of plastic and may not be the best choice for a hot drop in.
Correct, for those who want that shape the P1D is the way to go. Same lines, but in solid aluminum.

As far as a quad XP-L, I think the general idea is the same here as the problem with the X6 quads… better to build an EE X6 w/ Cute-3 and domed XP-L emitters. You’ll get more light [by skipping the dedome which is required for 24mm quads], less heat, and it’s apparently a solid host.

Nitro is either going to have to pick a height or produce a sandwich. All these different optics have different heights:

  • reflector
  • 20mm Carclo triple / 24mm Carclo quad
  • 20mm Khatod triple (deeper)
  • 20mm single
  • 26.5mm single

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My vote is for either one of the carlco triple or quad

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Let's have a re-interest in the p60 lights.. they seem to have lost their love recently.

I'm still wanting that blue l2p

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These will be pretty much the same as the ones Mattaus did recently I assume?

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yea i just read his thread but something just like it

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I’ll be watching this post because I also looking for a reasonable price for custom P60 dropin.
Can’t wait to see the progress Smile

PS:
AFAIK, there’s a little difference on Solarforce host vs Surefire one.
That’s why Solarforce’s dropin need a spring to be attached.

I'm switching my BLF account into LumenZilla. Thanks!

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sandalian wrote:
I’ll be watching this post because I also looking for a reasonable price for custom P60 dropin.
Can’t wait to see the progress Smile

PS:
AFAIK, there’s a little difference on Solarforce host vs Surefire one.
That’s why Solarforce’s dropin need a spring to be attached.

I don’t understand what you are saying. Solarforce and Surefire both normally use a spring. Here is Surefire’s P60: http://www.surefire.com/p60lamp.html

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wight wrote:
I don’t understand what you are saying. Solarforce and Surefire both normally use a spring. Here is Surefire’s P60: http://www.surefire.com/p60lamp.html

Here’s the case, sometimes the big/outter spring need to be removed/added to fit Surefire host.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?261307-Solarforce-L2m...

I don’t know the problem is in the dropin or in the host, I only have one Surefire host and already sold my Solarforce host. So I can’t check it for comparison.

I’m sorry for putting a link to other forum here.

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The link to CPF is fine, nobody minds.

I skimmed the thread. From what I can see, most of those folks are discussing Surefire dropins being small (and thus not working in 18650-bored lights like the Solarforce). That doesn’t prevent larger dropins from working in a Surefire though. Only jp2515 mentions the “remove the spring” thing.

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I remember that I still keep an L2 body (body only) at home.
I’ll check it and post it here later.

FYI there’s a great deal here http://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/product_detail.php?t=FB&s=1&id=19
Just $9.9, I hope it’s still available.

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I think it would be cool if someone with access to or have the resources of CNC milling machine to make and sell an affordable (this is BUDGET Light Forum after all) custom P60 dropin module that houses around a 20mm optic (single or multiple) so that we can build our own high quality dropin like a Malkoff M60. Maybe someone could put together a group buy for something like that?

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im working on it that's the point of this thread Wink i try to keep it budget but like the x6 u got to buy the copper material (expensive) and paying the machine shop for labor ext...........once my solarforce hosts gets here im ready to make them

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nitro wrote:

im working on it that’s the point of this thread Wink i try to keep it budget but like the x6 u got to buy the copper material (expensive) and paying the machine shop for labor ext………..once my solarforce hosts gets here im ready to make them

Alright, now we’re talking… Count me in if you do. Though honestly I wouldn’t mind having some made in Aluminum or Brass (like the Malkoff M60) if they’re more cost effective.

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I would definitely be interested in one of these. I have an empty L2N host that is screaming for a de-domed triple XP-L with a FET driver.

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