*3/13 Update the Review is in!* G700 "Chip In Fund"

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Hey guys, sorry for the delay. I tried to ship out the G700 clone Monday, but realized after walking in, that the post office was closed for President’s Day. All last week I was in my yearly recurrent training for the Lear, so I’ve had zero time to run to the post office during regular business hours.

Slim Pickens’ original G700 was received by mhanlen, and the clone G700 is on its way to him as well. We WILL be doing a side-by-side comparison Big Smile I looked at the shipping costs, and the cheapest way to get the clone from me to mhanlen, would be a flat rate shipping box. It would cost about $6.50 each way, so $13 total to get it to him, and then back to me. I took a look at Banggood, and they have the same light in stock at their US warehouse for only $6.99 with free shipping. So I took the liberty to order the light, and have it shipped for free to mhanlen (which he can keep, or ship around with Slim’s G700 to whoever else wants to do a review). I figured this would be more reasonable than spending $13 to ship a $6.99 light back and forth. And it will save $$$ to give to Slim Pickens, and mhanlen.

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Updated the second post with a makeshift expense report.

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Can’t wait for the review
Are there others who will do the comparison as well?

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The Miller wrote:
Can’t wait for the review Are there others who will do the comparison as well?

Unknown at this point. My coordination efforts are only for mhanlen’s review. If you want to talk to Slim about it, then that’s up to you guys. I’d love to see some more reviews, but I don’t have the tools for a proper review, so I’m going to bow out of that one.

The MECO light that I sent to mhanlen is his to keep (if he decides to keep it). So if he wants to ship it with the G700, then that’s 100% his decision. I’d contact those two guys, or start a thread to gauge the interest in doing more reviews on it.

I’ll let you quarterback that one, Miller Big Smile

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yes! will do!

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Hey fellows… I have both lights in my hand and plan on doing a review in the coming weeks. It should take me about 2 weeks give or take a few days- because I’m finishing up a few Nitecore things. I really don’t need either light- I’m doing this for fun really. I really don’t care where it goes next. I plan on shipping the G700 or both lights back to slim. He can decide what happens to it next, and where I ship it to.

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Cheers to Slim for furthering this, and I hope he can decide, and tell you, who to send it to next — keep those reviews rolling out, so he doesn’t have to keep paying shipping for each new reviewer. Send it around

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I think we need to send it to mhanlen for a tongue and cheek review.
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Yes that is in the making.
Who in the US wants to go next?

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I found this page interesting… its a directory listing of all of the infomercials they do for different markets…

http://tacticalsystemsmag.com/

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Sorry I haven’t read all the the posts here, but it’s too bad that the G700 isn’t being compared to the Ultrafire E17 Simon is selling. That one is much more likely to have a real Cree XM-L. The Meco has a LatticeBright LED, so it’ll make the G700 look better than it really is.

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kowshak, good find, th is makes it easer to track the names they are using, thanks.

tristan, you could be right, if we had only thought of this a little earlier in the process, the price is about the same so this would have been a better choice if the eco used has indeed LB in it.

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tristanxoxo wrote:
Sorry I haven’t read all the the posts here, but it’s too bad that the G700 isn’t being compared to the Ultrafire E17 Simon is selling. That one is much more likely to have a real Cree XM-L. The Meco has a LatticeBright LED, so it’ll make the G700 look better than it really is.

If this is true, it could throw a little wrench into our plans. I sent a message to mhanlen about taking a look at the mcpcb, to see if it says LatticeBright or LB on it. Banggood lists it as a XML T6. So we will see.

EDIT: Mhanlen confirmed that the G700 IS a LatticeBright emitter, so hopefully the MECO is as well. He is going to double check.

Crisis averted Hat

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Good grief. I hadn’t actually seen any of the crap ads for this piece of garbage, until I looked at the ones collected at the link above.
“How to stop a bear dead in its tracks” illustrated with picture of snarling Grizzly bear

It reminds me of a joke worth, er, improving.

How do you tell the species of bear from the bear poo in the woods?

Contains berries and vegetation: Black bear
Contains little bells and fragments of “700-type” flashlights and smells like pepper spray: Grizzly bear.

I’m afraid the real problem here is these “700” flashlight ads are pitched to convince illiterates, people who can’t or don’t read to find information.

Author Spider Robinson pointed out back in 1999, in a piece titled “Seduction of the Ignorant”

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John D. MacDonald, in an essay he wrote for the Library of Congress just before his death, “Reading for Survival,” put his finger on the problem: the complex code-system we call literacy—indeed, the very neural wiring that allows it—has existed for only the latest few heartbeats in the long history of human evolution. In competing with television and cinema and video games, books are competing with a system of information acquisition that predates them by several million years. Literacy is a very hard skill to acquire, and once acquired it brings endless heartache—for the more you read, the more you learn of life’s intimidating complexity and confusion. But anyone who can learn to grunt is bright enough to watch TV . . . which teaches that life is simple ….

Keep making those video reviews, and remember — half the viewers are below average. Poor suckers are being ripped off totally.

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Looking at the emitters close… the G700 definitely has a Latticebrite and the Meco looks to have the same. So it will be a fair comparison.

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Sorry, I wish I had read this thread before the Meco light was ordered. The reason I know it is a LatticeBright is because I bought one awhile ago from Banggood and it was confirmed to be a LatticeBright on the “Fake Cree LED” thread.

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Oh boy….. here is the latest flashlight “de jeur”. It is an X800 so we can be confident it is much better than the G700 model https://www.shadowhawkflashlights.com/ss1/index.php?AFID=12&SID=YH

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we could already tell by it’s packaging that these was a serious lights.

Wow. They must hire those guys who write spam email to do their fake website reviews. “Sponsored by” indeed:

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THIS IS AN ADVERTISEMENT AND NOT AN ACTUAL NEWS ARTICLE, BLOG, OR CONSUMER PROTECTION UPDATE.

THE STORY DEPICTED ON THIS SITE AND THE PERSON DEPICTED IN THE STORY ARE NOT ACTUAL NEWS. RATHER, THIS STORY IS BASED ON THE RESULTS THAT SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE USED THESE PRODUCTS HAVE ACHIEVED. THE RESULTS PORTRAYED IN THE STORY AND IN THE COMMENTS ARE ILLUSTRATIVE, AND MAY NOT BE THE RESULTS THAT YOU ACHIEVE WITH THESE PRODUCTS. THIS PAGE COULD RECEIVE COMPENSATION FOR CLICKS ON OR PURCHASE OF PRODUCTS FEATURED ON THIS SITE.

What did they change? Oh, the number “7” has been replaced by the number “8” in the white paint on the outside.
That’s, what, a 12.4 percent improvement in brightness?

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What did they change? Oh, the number “7” has been replaced by the number “8” in the white paint on the outside. That’s, what, a 12.4 percent improvement in brightness?

While I’m sure the G800 is equally unimpressive as the G700, the G800 is a clone of the Ultrafire E26 which can take a 26650. The G700 is a clone of the Ultrafire E17 and is a 18650 light.

While many feel the build is better on the E26 (which I agree) the switch design is not a good as the E17. The omten 1217 switch will drop right in the E17.

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Just to update everyone… I am working on this, although I’ve been a bit busy. This will be by next review, and I should be done with it early sometime next week. Sorry it’s taken a little longer than I’ve expected… but I’ve written the script for it and tested that crap battery that has come with it… It tests at 1600 mah and only wants to charge to 4.08v.

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Thanks for the update!
Thorough work!
Can’t wait to see the video!

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Thanks for the update mhanlen. I think I can speak for everyone here when I say that we’re all looking forward to the review. However, we all want the review to be 100% complete, so if that means that it will take extra time, I’m sure we all understand!

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Yes + a lot

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Update: My review should show up sometime a bit later today. Keep your eyes peeled! Or stay far, far away!

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Ooh yes! Can’t wait we are about to eat so I will grab a tablet and hopefully watch it then!

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The G700 review is in! Updated in the OP

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Yea funny review!
Though when you said something in the order of “how to get info on good flashlights?” near the end, mhanlen, I did expected that to be followed by “browse to BLF and supscribe” not just “subscribe to my channel”
But eh you certainly have some moves bro Wink

Where are they going now?

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How about reviewing the cell & charger as well ?
I would be pretty sure that the cell would show up to be a used laptop pull & would imagine that the charger would prove to be less than ideal for charging 18650 Li-ions like most of the chargers supplied with these type of cells & zoomie lights.
Maybe get HKJ involved ?
The more bad press these rip off merchants get the better as far as I am concerned as they are making a massive amount of profit from unsuspecting buyers.
As the light can be bought individually for around $5 including shipping I would guess that bulk buying the light, cell & charger plus the crappy plastic box can“t be costing them more in total than maybe $10 ?

Ian

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The Miller wrote:
Yea funny review!
Though when you said something in the order of “how to get info on good flashlights?” near the end, mhanlen, I did expected that to be followed by “browse to BLF and supscribe” not just “subscribe to my channel”
But eh you certainly have some moves bro Wink

Where are they going now?

I have no idea where they’re going next. I do give BLF shoutouts in my reviews. If you Google Budget Light Forum, there’s a video of mine on page 1 in “all” and “videos.” Those are for lights put together by members here. I didn’t this time, but I do give BLF referrals.

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