Klarus G20 - single cell xhp70 - 3000lm

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Klarus G20 - single cell xhp70 - 3000lm

Looks like a real nice xhp70 pocket rocket.

Lately my attention has been diverted to flashlights with the xhp emitters. There are several single-cell pocket size models I’m considering and this one is at the top of my list ATM.

Here are the ones I’m looking at (in order of highest output as rated by Mfg.):

Klarus G20…………..xhp70 3000lm
Nitecore TM03………xhp70 2800lm
Acebeam EC50…….xhp70 2500lm
Olight R50…………..xhp50 2500lm
BTU STR01…………xhp35 2000lm

If anyone knows of any other xhp single-cell pocket size models please post!

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The xhp70 N4 emitter in the Klarus G20 is cool white 1A (6000-6500k)

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I’ve received a copy of the User Manual from Klarus to fully understand the UI.

Quick access to TURBO from off is Press and Hold either switch (exits turbo when released) but you can get turbo (on without holding button) by scrolling up through the levels.

It also has quick access to LOW from off by one click of the tail switch. The normal operation starts on LOW.

From the manual:

Instruction:
Independent Dual-Switch Control:
Tail Switch and Side Switch can both control power on/off and mode adjustment

On/Off:
Single click for power-on, hold switch for 1 second to turn power off

Switch Mode:
While flashlight is on, single click to switch to the next output in order of Low-Med-High-Turbo modes

Mode Memory:
Side Switch will return the flashlight to previous used mode when used to power on the light. Strobe/SOS settings are not memorized. Tail Switch has no memory function.

Strobe/SOS:
Double click at any time to enter Strobe mode, double click again to enter SOS mode. Single click at any time to exit.

One-Touch Turbo:
Hold Tail Switch or Side Switch to enter Turbo mode instantly. Release switch to exit.

One-Touch Low:
When in power-off mode, click Tail Switch once to enter Low mode

Lock-Out:
Hold both Tail and Side Switches for 2 seconds to enter Lock-Out mode. To exit Lock-Out, click any switch 3 times rapidly. The flashlight will blink twice to signal Lock-Out mode entry and exit. When in Lock-Out, pressing any switch will flash the Side Indicator Light 3 times to signal Lock-Out.

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Intelligent Temperature Control:
Intelligent Temperature-Control System will automatically adjust the output of the flashlight based on current temperature registered in the flashlight to avoid overheating. This system will protect the LED and internal circuitry against damages and prolong the life and safety of the flashlight.

 

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One touch turbo and 2 amps charging are great features for me.
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I believe there’s also an Olight R50 Pro with a XHP 70 in the works (saw from CPF).

All these lights look very interesting to me. I only have one “thrower” but am interested in these after seeing the first Olight R50 reviews/impressions coming out.

One thing I notice is it seems like the Klarus G20 has a shorter throw (by spec) though..

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Nitecore TM03 uses a proprietary 18650 battery to achieve its output.

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Oh . My. God!
I. WANT. THIS. BOMB!
What’s the price?

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The Klarus G20 seems to have a very attractive feature set. The UI is well thought-out. A charger built-in. Lots of battery capacity.
This might be a good light for camping and trekking at night.

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3000 my ass… for 10s? Big Smile

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Silent_Star wrote:
Oh . My. God! I. WANT. THIS. BOMB! What’s the price?

http://www.banggood.com/Klarus-G20-CREE-XHP70-N4-3000LM-26650-Outdoor-Search-EDC-LED-Flashlight-p-1069420.html

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sp5it wrote:
3000 my ass… for 10s? Big Smile
Please explain your statement of 10s, is there a review/test showing a drop after 10s?

I see it has “Intelligent Temperature Control” So it will “automatically adjust the output of the flashlight based on current temperature registered in the flashlight to avoid overheating”

So this starts dimming after 10s? Do you know aprox. what it steps down to after 10s?

The run time on Turbo is 45min. (Mfg. specs.)

 

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Charga wrote:
Silent_Star wrote:
Oh . My. God! I. WANT. THIS. BOMB! What’s the price?

http://www.banggood.com/Klarus-G20-CREE-XHP70-N4-3000LM-26650-Outdoor-Search-EDC-LED-Flashlight-p-1069420.html

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It’s not budget, but it’s the lowest price single cell pocketable xhp70 production light I know of.
(And the price is even less after BLF discount code of course)

Klarus G20…………..xhp70 3000lm…….$98
Acebeam EC50…….xhp70 2500lm……..$119
Nitecore TM03………xhp70 2800lm……..$129

 

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We need a coupon.

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We need a coupon.

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sidecross wrote:
Nitecore TM03 uses a proprietary 18650 battery to achieve its output.

What is the difference between proprietary and normal ones ?

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There is definitely one step missing between 650 and 3000.
I ask myself why.

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sp5it wrote:
3000 my ass… for 10s? Big Smile

I’m also skeptical about the runtime at that lumen output. If the Nitecore TM03 has a runtime of 45min at 1300lumens, there’s no way the Klarus can output 3000 for 45mins. I don’t think there’s a boost driver that would be efficient enough to reach that level and if it did, the amount of current it would use just to maintain 6v would drain even the highest mAh rated batteries very quickly. I’ll wait to see some reviews before I jump on this one.

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beam0 wrote:
sp5it wrote:
3000 my ass… for 10s? Big Smile
Please explain your statement of 10s, is there a review/test showing a drop after 10s?

I see it has “Intelligent Temperature Control” So it will “automatically adjust the output of the flashlight based on current temperature registered in the flashlight to avoid overheating”

So this starts dimming after 10s? Do you know aprox. what it steps down to after 10s?

The run time on Turbo is 45min. (Mfg. specs.)

After 45 min on turbo it will be melted.
What do you expect of this small light without cooling fins? I am pretty sure it will go into regulation very fast.
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firedome wrote:
sidecross wrote:
Nitecore TM03 uses a proprietary 18650 battery to achieve its output.

What is the difference between proprietary and normal ones ?

The proprietary battery means it is a battery that is specially made for and specifically dedicated to this flashlight, a normal 18650 battery will not operate the light properly.

This is what I dislike about Nitecore TM03.

 

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illumino wrote:
There is definitely one step missing between 650 and 3000.
I ask myself why.
Agreed, and thanks for pointing that out, somehow in my excitement I overlooked that fact. There needs to be a mode level of around 1200lm – 1400lm.

Out of any other cons this is the worst one, I also have to wonder what they were thinking. I’m not so excited for it now.

 

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beam0 wrote:
The run time on Turbo is 45min. (Mfg. specs.)
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After 45 min on turbo it will be melted.

Haha, of course I was never expecting it to run 45 min. on turbo, Smile I thought about not including that spec. in my reply so someone didn’t think I was. I only included it to inform of the Mfg. spec.

My main question was regarding sp5it’s reference to 10 seconds, although now I’m sure he was merely being sarcastic of the short turbo runtime. Big Smile

I fully understand (as everyone should) all of these small pocketable xhp70 lights are designed for only short bursts of turbo.

 

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Guys, I suppose that UI and thermal management are similar to G30, this means that you turn on turbo mode and it will reduce current very slightly while light is getting hot, no steps at all.

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beam0 wrote:
illumino wrote:
There is definitely one step missing between 650 and 3000.
I ask myself why.
Agreed, and thanks for pointing that out, somehow in my excitement I overlooked that fact. There needs to be a mode level of around 1200lm – 1400lm.

Out of any other cons this is the worst one, I also have to wonder what they were thinking. I’m not so excited for it now.

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Maybe not perfect, but I’m liking the mode levels better on the Acebeam EC50:

And the Acebeam EC50 has NW 5000k option Smile , a big plus for me that isn’t an option for the other two pocket-able size xhp70 flashlights.

The size of the Acebeam is about the same as an Eagle Eye / BLF X6 but slightly longer (+10mm)
So it’s larger than the Klarus.

It’s compact size is what attracted me to the Klarus.

 

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beam0 wrote:
illumino wrote:
There is definitely one step missing between 650 and 3000.
I ask myself why.
Agreed, and thanks for pointing that out, somehow in my excitement I overlooked that fact. There needs to be a mode level of around 1200lm – 1400lm.

Out of any other cons this is the worst one, I also have to wonder what they were thinking. I’m not so excited for it now.

Yup. I saw the pre-release for this light and was excited at the offer until I saw that mode spacing. Then I wasn’t sure if it would require press to hold as the only option for access to turbo. If this was the case then it would be 100% no go. Good thing at least it can access turbo without holding but it is still ridiculous to have 3,000 lumens turbo and 650 lumens high mode. I’d say at least 1500 lumens for high and would settle for 1,000. Not sure about this light.
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Also, Acebeam is soon to release the EC50 V2 which will be 3,000 lumens turbo.

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What is the parasitic drain from each switch? – the electronic side switch and tail switch?

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Silent_Star wrote:
Oh . My. God! I. WANT. THIS. BOMB! What’s the price?
i got mine from bg for a very good price WAFFLE REMOVED AS REQUESTED i love it Big Smile

for anyone who wants to know, here’s the dimensions

klarus battery 71.34mm long 26.55mm wide

battery tube 27.36mm wide (inside), 34.49-35.92mm at the base

total depth 81.38mm , depth to spring (uncompressed) 68.37mm

Warning
all the above where taken with a fairly expensive digital vernier, but due to differences in manufacturing may be subject to changes

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I don’t think you re supposed to be posting the prices or the code. That’s part of the deal right?

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kiriba-ru wrote:
Guys, I suppose that UI and thermal management are similar to G30, this means that you turn on turbo mode and it will reduce current very slightly while light is getting hot, no steps at all.

And where it will stops?
On 900 lumens max. Except if use it in Yakutsk. There will be no lumens reduce on turbo, 3000 limens steady output.
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tru3s1lv3r wrote:
sp5it wrote:
3000 my ass… for 10s? Big Smile

I’m also skeptical about the runtime at that lumen output. If the Nitecore TM03 has a runtime of 45min at 1300lumens, there’s no way the Klarus can output 3000 for 45mins. I don’t think there’s a boost driver that would be efficient enough to reach that level and if it did, the amount of current it would use just to maintain 6v would drain even the highest mAh rated batteries very quickly. I’ll wait to see some reviews before I jump on this one.


Absolutely right.
But how many people even know what is efficiency and boost driver?
Everybody read only specs and cares about numbers.
I am wondering that nobody ask what is color temperature and CRI of led.
And finally, to buy flashlight without full info, review with beam shots and run time chart is to become rabbit for tests by your own will.