【New】The Next Generation Of 18650 li-ion Rechargeable Battery?

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【New】The Next Generation Of 18650 li-ion Rechargeable Battery?

Tell Me What’s your imagination of the next generation of 18650 battery? Big Smile

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LUMINTOP Next Generation LM34 18650 li-ion additionally add a new function – micro-USB charging input port, it can be charged only by one USB cable anytime and anywhere when you have USB power device.

No need charger – LUMINTOP LM34C Micro-USB 18650 li-on battery – The subversion of charge mode


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Just did a little review on similar cells from Brinyte
HKJ has done a analysis of the Mecarmy version.
Like the idea!

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The Miller wrote:
Just did a little review on similar cells from Brinyte HKJ has done a analysis of the Mecarmy version. Like the idea!

Really? Already on the forum?

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Yes my Brinyte review
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/48699

In it a link to HKJs review

Can you comment on the possibility to use both a normal charger and tgr build in charger at the same time I experimented with?
What are your and your engineers opinions on that?

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Sure that it’s not a 18_7_50 cell?

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Sure that it’s not a 18_7_50 cell?

Haha Big Smile , Actually it is only 1.9mm long than the common 18650 battery with protected circuit board~ It is Ok to suit most of 18650 flashlight~

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Heheh more a 19700 or 18700
But the protected 3400 Panasonic cells and many other longer and sightly thicker protected cells are called 18650 while indeed 18700 or 19700 would be a better name.

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Heheh more a 19700 or 18700 But the protected 3400 Panasonic cells and many other longer and sightly thicker protected cells are called 18650 while indeed 18700 or 19700 would be a better name.

18650 only suit for the original cell ? Facepalm

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Nah
18 mm diameter
65 length
0 shape

The Panasonic protected cells and many others are longer and a tad thicker
But the general consensus seems to be anything from
18 – 19 mm diameter
65 – 71 mm length
Round cells
Are named 18650 since people would probably get confused and well I really like being able to explain to people “Tesla uses these 18650 cells, they pack quite the punch” since people get it then. And I like doing this even while holding a protected cell Wink so just stick with it lol

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Lumintop wrote:
Flashy Mike wrote:
Sure that it’s not a 18_7_50 cell?

Haha Big Smile , Actually it is only 1.9mm long than the common 18650 battery with protected circuit board~ It is Ok to suit most of 18650 flashlight~

Since there is no standard for “common 18650 battery with protected circuit board” – could you tell us the exact total length of your cell?
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Flashy Mike wrote:
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Flashy Mike wrote:
Sure that it’s not a 18_7_50 cell?

Haha Big Smile , Actually it is only 1.9mm long than the common 18650 battery with protected circuit board~ It is Ok to suit most of 18650 flashlight~

Since there is no standard for “common 18650 battery with protected circuit board” – could you tell us the exact total length of your cell?

The total length is 70.7mm ~

Pls check details here:http://www.lumintop.com/lm34c-usb-rechargeable-18650-li-ion-battery.html

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And how much does the charging circuit add to the price? I doubt this is the next generation of liions….

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I like the idea – they charge at the regular USB current? what if they get connected to USB 3? Can they go up to 900mAh or even 1.5A?

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I don’t really see the point.
When you have the battery out, isn’t it easier to just put it in the charger, than fiddle with these tiny usb connectors that are not made to withstand hundreds of plugs/unplugs anyway?
No indication of charge and extra long battery that won’t fit anywhere as a “bonus”.
Useless gadget.

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it might be useful for travel purposes, when the light you are traveling with doesn’t have a charging port and you don’t want to carry an additional charger or power supply unit.

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The big plus (for me that is, ignorng Brinyte stating it should not be done) is the fact that I can charge them with 1000mA (a normal charger) AND 750mA (the build in charger) to have a total of 1750mA thus much faster charging.

Another really big plus is the fct that I do not need a charger in the car. I have a little car adapter for charging of phones and tablets and an inverter to charge notebooks and that too has a USB out.
These can be used with the USB cable already in the car, so as a matter of fact the Brinyte cells hav given me more spac in the glove compartment Thumbs Up

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But, when you wanna charge 4 batteries, you need 4 cables and someting with 4 usb ports, not very likely to be had by most users.

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koyotee wrote:
But, when you wanna charge 4 batteries, you need 4 cables and someting with 4 usb ports, not very likely to be had by most users.

You would just use w regular charger of you had for to charge. You can use external and internal charging with them

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Still, not worth the price difference.

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Lumintop wrote:

The total length is 70.7mm ~

Pls check details here:http://www.lumintop.com/lm34c-usb-rechargeable-18650-li-ion-battery.html

We need standards.

A 18650 battery that is 70.7mm is or should not be labeled 18650.

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Well people like higher numbers
So a flashlight labelled 18650/18700 capable and a cell labelled 18700 could seem better then that 18650 cell Big Smile
I fear it would be more confusing for the general public but I think that the first who offers 18700 flashlights and cells could also sell more just because it had higher numbers on it.
But who would take the gamble?

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The Miller wrote:
18 mm diameter 65 length 0 shape

No, no, no:
10mm diameter
650 1/10mm in length

IC*R*18650, IM*R*18650, IN*R*18650 : The R means round

PS: Why do I have the line with Bold, Italic, etc. when it do not work!

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Ah OK
(The _ & * do not like numbers)

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The Miller wrote:
Well people like higher numbers
So a flashlight labelled 18650/18700 capable and a cell labelled 18700 could seem better then that 19650 cell Big Smile
I fear it would be more confusing for the general public but I think that the first who offers 18700 flashlights and cells could also sell more just because it had higher numbers on it.
But who would take the gamble?

I understand your comment and reasoning, but it assumes the buyer or consumer is not smart enough to comprehend the dynamics of the batteries being used.

If the amount of profit made by selling ‘protected batteries’ to an unsophisticated public is a guide, then who knows what other great ‘new’ batteries will be released.

The ‘lowest common denominator’ is not a principal I would like to see in innovative flashlight or battery design.

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HKJ wrote:
No, no, no:
10mm diameter
650 1/10mm in length

IC*R*18650, IM*R*18650, IN*R*18650 : The R means round

PS: Why do I have the line with Bold, Italic, etc. when it do not work!

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The main reason I favor single cell flashlights is the ease of carrying a spare battery to change in the field if needed.

In this case a battery with a built in terminal for charging would also need a power-bank or charger; I would not find this a convenience.

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The numbering is intentionally ‘nominal’ to allow for slight variations from different manufacturers, but IMHO a 5mm or more difference isn’t nominal and should be noted through use of a different number. Had they started with different more true descriptions (which they should have done) it would work, but now it would just confuse the average person even more. At least we’re smart enough to check for the length before buying Wink

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I don’t need it either. A spare battery does the job for me! Steve

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This could be useful for a trip when you don’t want to carry additional chargers, just the light and one battery. However it uses a panasonic NCR-B which is not good for high powered flashlights.

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I like the concept of having the micro USB built into the battery. It adds portable micro USB rechargeability to flashlights that don’t have a built in micro USB port.

My main concern is length – 70.7 mm is a bit long for some flashlights. It’ll either really crunch down on the springs, or won’t fit at all.

I don’t really “need” micro USB rechargeability for my use cases, but I might pick up 1 or 2 of these just to try out.

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