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Imalent DT35 vs DT70? Which one and why

DT35: 8000 lumens, 1000 m throw
DT70: 16000 lumens, 700 m throw

Which light would you go for? I already have a tm16gt and am wondering which of these I should get next. I would opt for an Acebeam X65 but they are $500(anything similar available for less money?)

Also for both of the Imalent lights, does anyone know approximately how long they stay at the max rated lumens for? Anyone have an output graph?

Thanks

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I am very reserved about the lumen and throw, there are no throw measurements or runtime graphs as of yet. But we sure have lots of hype from the discounters.

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Aren’t those pretty new?

FWIW I am considering the DN70, compact flood light. Got one in my Amazon cart… getting ready to pull the trigger.

I can’t tell though if it can unscrew the tailcap or head to terminate battery contact. Mechanical lock out is not a deal breaker but its pretty high on my list of priorities as a backpacker and outdoor user.

I would be shocked if this light is an honest 3800 Lumens. If it is it sure won’t be for long, with a 6V emitter and single 26650.

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If both lights do what they’re supposed to do, I’d get both; discount price is great. I’m really worried they are just a piece of junk. One member here told us to stay away from these lights who got the DT35. I believe he’s the same guy (need to double check) who got four HaikeLites and was pleased with them. So HaikeLite was ok, but not the Imalent… Go figure…

Edit: the member is DayLighter

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Yeah I bought both of them, with DT70 is still in custom somewhere in US, received DT35, first impression it’s a nice compact light,
works only with protected button top Facepalm
No spring in the tail , can only be open from the top, problem is without the bottom spring, some of the batteries is uneven and didn’t make contact, thus causing issues with the turbo mode.

When I finally get it to work, ( for briefly few secs ) it has a nice tight beam but I really doubt the 8000 lumens claim.
I already known they always over rated their lumen claims, but nevertheless they do build nice lights.
I have few of their not so friendly budget lights Big Smile

Hopefully, DT70 will go over 10000 lumens, at least more than haikelite, which btw can be bought for 3 of them for the price of DT70.But it’s a Christmas gift for myself Wink
I’ll try to post a mini review of DT35 soon along with comparison beam shot with Nitecore TM16GT.

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DayLighter wrote:
Yeah I bought both of them, with DT70 is still in custom somewhere in US, received DT35, first impression it’s a nice compact light,
works only with protected button top Facepalm
No spring in the tail , can only be open from the top, problem is without the bottom spring, some of the batteries is uneven and didn’t make contact, thus causing issues with the turbo mode.

When I finally get it to work, ( for briefly few secs ) it has a nice tight beam but I really doubt the 8000 lumens claim.
I already known they always over rated their lumen claims, but nevertheless they do build nice lights.
I have few of their not so friendly budget lights Big Smile

Hopefully, DT70 will go over 10000 lumens, at least more than haikelite, which btw can be bought for 3 of them for the price of DT70.But it’s a Christmas gift for myself Wink
I’ll try to post a mini review of DT35 soon along with comparison beam shot with Nitecore TM16GT.

I posted a question somewhere else as well, but is there no compliance at all in the battery tube for the cells? I mean, I understand if you have four cells, it’s likely that one cell is not going to make proper contact. But this means all DT35/70 will have this issue; you must be lucky to have four cells that have really the same length… Sounds like a bad design to me then…

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you already own a good-range-flashlight. one year ago we talked about the “beast” TM16GT…..

i think the short range-dt70m should be the light that you are going to buy:-)

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Hikelite wrote:
Haikelite just couldn’t clone my name and add it a Chinese twist? Nike – Naike

HaikeNike? Explains the shoelace though… hehe.

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Maybe you want to wait for DT70Vn? btw if you want crazy bright light, there’s a member here is selling TK75 modded by vihn using 4 XHP 70, that’s a real eye scorcher…with Fenix deep reflectors it should throw well too, just don’t expect the runtime will last Big Smile

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freeme wrote:

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Haikelite just couldn’t clone my name and add it a Chinese twist? Nike – Naike

I don’t care. Smile

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gyros-pita wrote:
you already own a good-range-flashlight. one year ago we talked about the “beast” TM16GT…..

i think the short range-dt70m should be the light that you are going to buy:-)

This is what I was thinking. And even the DT70 has a solid 700 m throw.

I think I will wait for more reviews, especially considering the reports of battery tube issues.

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DayLighter wrote:
Yeah I bought both of them, with DT70 is still in custom somewhere in US, received DT35, first impression it’s a nice compact light,
works only with protected button top Facepalm
No spring in the tail , can only be open from the top, problem is without the bottom spring, some of the batteries is uneven and didn’t make contact, thus causing issues with the turbo mode.

When I finally get it to work, ( for briefly few secs ) it has a nice tight beam but I really doubt the 8000 lumens claim.
I already known they always over rated their lumen claims, but nevertheless they do build nice lights.
I have few of their not so friendly budget lights Big Smile

Hopefully, DT70 will go over 10000 lumens, at least more than haikelite, which btw can be bought for 3 of them for the price of DT70.But it’s a Christmas gift for myself Wink
I’ll try to post a mini review of DT35 soon along with comparison beam shot with Nitecore TM16GT.

OMG please, the curiosity about that dt35 is killing me Tired

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Just got the DT70 today, they both are the same dimension and length ( DT70 is 1mm longer) probably just my light..
Unfortunately for m, somebody broke the seal on the box and the batteries were down to 3.12V,and the other 3 is around 3.4V and the manual are missing too, did someone from the custom or DHL play around with this light? Flat Stare

Didn’t really get to try the light yet, as both light are very sensitive regarding the batteries, my sanyo GA won’t wotk, even sanyo GA button top won’t work either.

Tried it with protected panasonic 3400B, it work briefly like maybe 5 secs before it shut down and refused to turn ON again. Facepalm
So.. I had to charge the Imallent batteries and maybe I’ll try it again before I go to sleep and compare it with Olight X7.
Well.. in theory it supposed to be brighter than Olight X7 or HaikeLite MT03 since they both only have 3 XHP70

Now how am I supposed to figure the mode on this light? Sad

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DayLighter wrote:

Just got the DT70 today, they both are the same dimension and length ( DT70 is 1mm longer) probably just my light..
Unfortunately for m, somebody broke the seal on the box and the batteries were down to 3.12V,and the other 3 is around 3.4V and the manual are missing too, did someone from the custom or DHL play around with this light? Flat Stare

Didn’t really get to try the light yet, as both light are very sensitive regarding the batteries, my sanyo GA won’t wotk, even sanyo GA button top won’t work either.

Tried it with protected panasonic 3400B, it work briefly like maybe 5 secs before it shut down and refused to turn ON again. Facepalm
So.. I had to charge the Imallent batteries and maybe I’ll try it again before I go to sleep and compare it with Olight X7.
Well.. in theory it supposed to be brighter than Olight X7 or HaikeLite MT03 since they both only have 3 XHP70

Now how am I supposed to figure the mode on this light? Sad

G'Day DayLighter, smile

 

Get the DT70 user manual from:

http://www.imalent.com/Item/Show.asp?m=3&d=529

 

Best Regards,

George

 

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“Imalent DT35 vs DT70? Which one and why”

1. Both.

2. For various reasons. The DT70; to add another item to my collection, to share a performance slot with the TK75Vn Quad 70.
The DT35; to add a multiple XHP35 light of its size class to my collection.

The answer to “Why?” for me is because an item does what nothing else in my collection does (such as the X65) or because I am adding another item to my collection to share a niche with items that I already have, because I am interested in that particular niche.

3. When? After I read some reviews.

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keengeorge wrote:

G’Day DayLighter, smile

 

Get the DT70 user manual from:

http://www.imalent.com/Item/Show.asp?m=3&d=529

 

Best Regards,

George


 

Thanks. The light has memory mode, so I can switch it on on low.

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DayLighter wrote:
I’ll try to post a mini review of DT35 soon
Please

I will wait for it, especially with regard to the fact that works only with protected button top

I do not have batteries protected, I hate them. They already they have put my life at risk

Sorry for my bad English (gogole transtorla)

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DayLighter wrote:
Just got the DT70 today, they both are the same dimension and length ( DT70 is 1mm longer) probably just my light..
Unfortunately for m, somebody broke the seal on the box and the batteries were down to 3.12V,and the other 3 is around 3.4V and the manual are missing too, did someone from the custom or DHL play around with this light? Flat Stare

Didn’t really get to try the light yet, as both light are very sensitive regarding the batteries, my sanyo GA won’t wotk, even sanyo GA button top won’t work either.

Tried it with protected panasonic 3400B, it work briefly like maybe 5 secs before it shut down and refused to turn ON again. Facepalm
So.. I had to charge the Imallent batteries and maybe I’ll try it again before I go to sleep and compare it with Olight X7.
Well.. in theory it supposed to be brighter than Olight X7 or HaikeLite MT03 since they both only have 3 XHP70

Now how am I supposed to figure the mode on this light? Sad

Any updates?

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yclongthrow wrote:

Any updates?

Or reviews?

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This is where I stumbled upon this light and is why I am now searching forums top to bottom looking for more info.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-aP_rcHIFE&t=1s

Hope this helps. Cheers.

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Here’s a few more links you can read and subscribe to.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/52070

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/51473

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/52790

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/51479

There are several threads on the TLF forum if your browser can translate. Might have to copy and paste the link below.

taschenlampen-forum.de/threads/review-imalent-dn70-und-sammelthread-für-passaround-erfahrungsberichte.54186

The bottom of the page will show similar threads.

The consensus is Imalent still can’t build reliable drivers.

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hIKARInoob wrote:
Also some info on CPF: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?167-Imalent

They haven’t had much good info over there so far, but this is a good thread.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?430473-Failed-DT70-be...

It seems they are reporting a lot of failures as well and being hassled about returns. $60 to ship it back, etc…

I think I’m going to stop researching this brand, because I’m no longer interested in these 4 new models. Sick

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WOW!

I almost buy the dt35, they called which it comes with 8k lumens and 1km trow……… I glad not preorder that before the reviews in german forum

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It seems like a big part of the flashlight hobby is gambling/chance. Most of the time the lights work, but if it breaks you might have to throw it away due to it being too expensive to repair under warranty or them not selling parts.

Luckily I’ve bought mostly Eagle Eye and Convoy. They will sell replacement parts very cheaply so they are pretty safe.

Serious modders could maybe replace the driver on a broken light with an aftermarket one, but you might lose features.

Ah, it sucks. Maybe Vihns lights from sky lumen are a good bet as he handles his own warranties and is in the USA. It’s covered for 6 months. After that he can fix it for a “reasonable” cost. That sounds pretty decent. IDK.

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x2… I completely avoid $$$ lights that are glued together. Replacement part availability is a big bonus too. Reliability is important to me. They just need to work first and foremost. Tint, CRI, PWM, User interface, peak-lux, max-lumens… none of that really matters if I can’t click a switch and have light. Thats why I prefer older lights, that I have used and proven to be reliable. Even if dim or less efficient by todays standards.

These Imalent lights really don’t interest me that much. From the looks if it, their UI and their complexities seems to try and engineer solutions to problems that really don’t exist while opening up QC issues.

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From the looks if it, their UI and their complexities seems to try and engineer solutions to problems that really don’t exist while opening up QC issues.

Exactly, Imalent also had the touch screen display lights a while back that didn’t work right if the screen got wet. Facepalm

At least their latest generation lights have real switches and only a tiny display. I like that a lot. No other (affordable) light tells you actual voltage. They need to test more before releasing a new design.

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Got DT70 yesterday. I find it a mixed bag with more + than negative. My seal was broken on arrival too as another member mentioned. The first thing I tried was simply sticking the flattop imr adapter from my TM28 xhp35 light into the DT70 along with 4x LG HE2 unprotected. It worked but I have to make sure the handle is pretty tight. However, this was the same thing with the included Imalent cells.

I love the tint. Coming off the ddt40 2016, this was a most welcome surprise. It’s more neutral than my K70 SD for sure. I’d guess 5,000k with somewhat rich color interactions. I had no idea about what manner of shabby beam profile to expect but was also surprised that for a cauliflower beam it has a rather clean cut appearance. I was expecting to see asymmetrical patterns with a lot of “fuzziness” and IDK what, but it simply looks nice and clean for what it is.

The UI is simple yet a bit clunky with it’s utilization of two buttons to awkwardly handle the task that one button could to seamlessly. Using my memory to explain here, ok from off click the right button for last memory. Clicking same to cycle 80, 1,000, 8,000 lumens. Long press same for off. Left button from off press hold goes straight to turbo which I measured approx 13,000 ANSI lumens liberally. Holding longer than about three second keeps mode on. Less than that, the light goes back off at release. Double click same button for strobe. Again double click for SOS and beacon.

This light’s beam actually looks fantastic IMO. Thermal properties suck though. This light weighs about 1.5oz less than my X7VN. If I guess right Olight likely has better thermal engineering on that light to stack onto the additional mass. The result is very short, yet also very pleasing runtimes for Turbo with DT70. I’m also glad that it gets hot quick as it indicates a decent thermal path away from the LEDs. Will likely keep the IMR adapter from TM28 in this light and use the Imalent cells in the TM28.

Happy and relieved after hearing a couple horror stories with this light. Let’s hope it lasts.

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That’s good to hear papaslightsaber! These lights are awesome in many ways (if they work). Indeed I hope it doesn’t fail on you.

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