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Wow, $32 with 15% off?

There's actually two listings.

One offers 15% off, and the other is 20% off.

That's about $25.60 before tax.  ;)

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gchart wrote:

Wow, $32 with 15% off?


There’s actually two listings.


One offers 15% off, and the other is 20% off.


That’s about $25.60 before tax.  ;)

whats the difference between the 2?

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niajef wrote:

whats the difference between the 2?

Good question.

They look the same to me.

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raccoon city wrote:

niajef wrote:

whats the difference between the 2?


Good question.


They look the same to me.

looks like theres only one way to find out Silly

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Great thread! I’ve been using a Nitecore for years that has a variable brightness white LED and blue, green, and red auxiliary ones. But I recently for a 2000K Noctigon KR4 and I’m loving this color temperature.

Any suggestions for a high end headlamp? Like best of the best, cost no object, ideally with a warmer color?

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Nice Gchart, pretty awesome chart comparison

My verdict is to Convoy H1, look at the Lumen line vs Temperature Line…I’m seen pretty well calibrated step down vs other. It managed squeeze out 750ish lumen for 40 mins and gradually adjusted below 750. The only downside I see is, its getting really hot, 85’c is the highest. I dont know that too hard, maybe for the battery life if it is expose to above 60’c. Unless the HL had manual temperature recalibration, that should solved. I think recall back, there is temperature reconfiguration..can remember though

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raccoon city wrote:
niajef wrote:
whats the difference between the 2?
Good question. They look the same to me.

15% off includes cell and usb cable.

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hasddie293 wrote:
Nice Gchart, pretty awesome chart comparison

My verdict is to Convoy H1, look at the Lumen line vs Temperature Line…I’m seen pretty well calibrated step down vs other. It managed squeeze out 750ish lumen for 40 mins and gradually adjusted below 750. The only downside I see is, its getting really hot, 85’c is the highest. I dont know that too hard, maybe for the battery life if it is expose to above 60’c. Unless the HL had manual temperature recalibration, that should solved. I think recall back, there is temperature reconfiguration..can remember though

i dont know man, the temperatures are significantly hotter than the other two, which never peaked past 55, but 84 is quite hot.

and yes, convoy had good lumen output for the first bit, but if u look at the X axis carefully, it goes down to 300lm ish around 100 mins, and completely dies before 140 mins, whereas the sp40 was at maybe 350lm at 100 mins, and remains above 250lm before min 180. so in the long run, sp40 is much better, 100lm is still useable output, and it can last past 250mins. wuben is better before min 160, but if you just want a really bright first hour, then convoy is better

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Lightbringer wrote:
raccoon city wrote:
niajef wrote:
whats the difference between the 2?
Good question. They look the same to me.

15% off includes cell and usb cable.

oh thats a no brainer then, 5% of like 32 bucks is like $1.60, for a battery, and sofirn batteries are solid too.

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It looks like the 20% off model is new for 2020 (part# 2020101602) as opposed to the 15% off one (part# H1). Their website also states “[2020 Latest] WUBEN H1 1200 Lumens Rechargeable Waterproof LED Headlamp” when buying directly from them so I assume there’s a difference. What it is I have no idea Silly

I would have thought that the older model have the bigger discount but that’s not the case.

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Wait theres an older version of the h1??

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Lightbringer wrote:

15% off includes cell and usb cable.

Although only the 15% off has a pic of the cell and cable, in the text description, both the 15% off and 20% off say they come with the cell and cable.  :THUMBS-UP:

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.. but if you want to have really hi cri – warm white – efficient – stabilized mode – light weight (<50g ) headlamp you have to DIY . There is no cheap solution on market. Aspiration Zebralight or better ( i do not know better, except few custom builds like H04 with E21A) ;))

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raccoon city wrote:

I'm hoping that the Lumintop HL3A goes on sale again.

I've changed my mind about the Lumintop HL3A.

The brightest model is only about 500 lumens over any significant length of time, according to this review:

https://zeroair.org/2020/03/18/lumintop-hl3a-flashlight-review/

(The "2800 lumens" doesn't last very long at all.)

The Wuben H1 keeps on looking better for my needs.

It's only about 500 lumens as well, but somewhat cheaper (on American Amazon.)

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Wuben H1 have no warm led, if you dont need warm led you can just get D10 for 10$ ;))

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".. but if you want to have really hi cri – warm white – efficient – stabilized mode – light weight (<50g ) headlamp you have to DIY . There is no cheap solution on market. Aspiration Zebralight or better ( i do not know better, except few custom builds like H04 with E21A) ;))"

 

(Sorry, but I cannot quote your post properly for some reason...)

I don't care about high CRI.

 

EDIT:

I am not sure if I want a 5700K headlamp.

(I didn't realize that was cool white.)

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Looks good, but for few dollars more you can get H04 Wink

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Quadrupel wrote:

Looks good, but for few dollars more you can get H04 Wink

I cannot find a lumens runtime graph for the H04 XM-L2, which comes in neutral white.

For about the same price, I can get the Lumintop HL3A, which I can find a lumens runtime graph for, which also comes in neutral white.

I'd rather have warm white, but I might have to settle.

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Photon Master wrote:

Any suggestions for a high end headlamp? Like best of the best, cost no object, ideally with a warmer color?

Acebeam H30 5000k with red+nichia aux-leds.

Best of the best I say. All its missing is throw, but lights very wide area for 100m. After getting mine every other headlamp just feels not so good. Acebeam spoiled me. Smaller one, maybe Fenix HM65R superraptor, but other led makes your eyes bleed because again cold tint and we don’t take too kindly to those around here. Big Smile

There is also very high output lights too like Lumonite Leader (+500€) if you need more lumens, but 5500k leds without high cri for that price its just stupid. I can give you 20 € for that though, deal, no? Then Lupine Betty RX14 (+900€) is one too and other expensive models from both makers. Didnt find any info about what leds they are using. Nice beamshots and regulation atleast.

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Quadrupel wrote:

Looks good, but for few dollars more you can get H04 Wink


I cannot find a lumens runtime graph for the H04 XM-L2, which comes in neutral white.


For about the same price, I can get the Lumintop HL3A, which I can find a lumens runtime graph for, which also comes in neutral white.


I’d rather have warm white, but I might have to settle.

h04 run time

its not that impressive, i think it depends on how much you need. if you need consistent 450-500lm ish, then wuben is the way to go, however, if you’re ok with maybe 200-300lm, then sp40 is much better

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The sp40 may be the only headlight available with 3000k (shipped from china). No moonlight but a simple UI and micro USB. Can’t keep the clip on while in the headlight strap and that applies to most headlights. The Wowtac a2s is a strong contender at 30 bucks. I think the Armytek pro series including the brand new C2 has got to be the best all around headlight and with the clip on the tail end you can keep it on in the head strap. The UI sounds impossible when you read it but once you’ve done it a few times it’s very simple. We don’t know for sure that the new one is high CRI but it likely is. “Warm” and “white” labels/options. 3 moonlights, 3 turbos, 3 in the middle. 3500mah high drain battery. Magnetic charging, magnetic base. Wide smooth beam pattern. Plus other things that you don’t get in others. I don’t know what more you could ask for.

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niajef wrote:
raccoon city wrote:

Quadrupel wrote:

Looks good, but for few dollars more you can get H04 Wink


I cannot find a lumens runtime graph for the H04 XM-L2, which comes in neutral white.


For about the same price, I can get the Lumintop HL3A, which I can find a lumens runtime graph for, which also comes in neutral white.


I’d rather have warm white, but I might have to settle.

h04 run time

its not that impressive, i think it depends on how much you need. if you need consistent 450-500lm ish, then wuben is the way to go, however, if you’re ok with maybe 200-300lm, then sp40 is much better


Sir, you comparing hi-cri with crap-cri ? What is Osram P6? I cant find data sheet for it even.
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RC says that CRI doesn’t matter for this application. And some of us can’t tell 70 CRI apart from 95 CRI (myself included).

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Quadrupel wrote:
niajef wrote:
raccoon city wrote:

Quadrupel wrote:

Looks good, but for few dollars more you can get H04 Wink


I cannot find a lumens runtime graph for the H04 XM-L2, which comes in neutral white.


For about the same price, I can get the Lumintop HL3A, which I can find a lumens runtime graph for, which also comes in neutral white.


I’d rather have warm white, but I might have to settle.

h04 run time

its not that impressive, i think it depends on how much you need. if you need consistent 450-500lm ish, then wuben is the way to go, however, if you’re ok with maybe 200-300lm, then sp40 is much better


Sir, you comparing hi-cri with crap-cri ? What is Osram P6? I cant find data sheet for it even.

Why must we care about cri all the time? Im not colour blind, i know what its supposed to be, i aint trying to paint in the dark, just need to see what things are where

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Yes in some applications light is light.

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MoreLumens wrote:
Photon Master wrote:

Any suggestions for a high end headlamp? Like best of the best, cost no object, ideally with a warmer color?

Acebeam H30 5000k with red+nichia aux-leds.

Best of the best I say. All its missing is throw, but lights very wide area for 100m. After getting mine every other headlamp just feels not so good. Acebeam spoiled me. Smaller one, maybe Fenix HM65R superraptor, but other led makes your eyes bleed because again cold tint and we don’t take too kindly to those around here. Big Smile

There is also very high output lights too like Lumonite Leader (+500€) if you need more lumens, but 5500k leds without high cri for that price its just stupid. I can give you 20 € for that though, deal, no? Then Lupine Betty RX14 (+900€) is one too and other expensive models from both makers. Didnt find any info about what leds they are using. Nice beamshots and regulation atleast.

Thanks for the great advice! I just went on Acebeam’s site and saw the H60 FULL SPECTRUM HEADLAMP:

“ Acebeam H60 utilizes the new SunLike TRI-R technology for high CRI (>97) and TLCL ratings with spectral distribution as close to the sunlight as possible”

https://www.acebeam.com/h60

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I still wait these:
https://budgetlightforum.com/node/72015

Especially H95, but if there is H90 and H95 coming, what about next step? H100? Shocked

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MoreLumens wrote:
I still wait these:
https://budgetlightforum.com/node/72015

Especially H95, but if there is H90 and H95 coming, what about next step? H100? Shocked


Ha those are crazy looking. Daddy want
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MoreLumens wrote:
I still wait these:
https://budgetlightforum.com/node/72015

Especially H95, but if there is H90 and H95 coming, what about next step? H100? Shocked

goddamn those spider eyes…

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I bet at some point someone will have a LEP headlamp. Like the Acebeam W30 flashlight

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