“REVIEW”: Lumintop FWAA – 14500 – Anduril 2 – Triple Nichia 4000K & 5000K [Pic Heavy]

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nocturne wrote:
…my question is, were the flashes an intentional design choice? Or unavoidable? …

The flashes during ramping are an intentional design choice. They are there to alert the user when swapping to FET mode.

Removing the flashes isn’t easy, but it’s probably doable. You would need to program out the flashes in the firmware, then reflash the MCU.

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Firelight2 wrote:
Removing the flashes isn’t easy, but it’s probably doable. You would need to program out the flashes in the firmware, then reflash the MCU.
I looked into that can of worms and decided to just switch to stepped mode.. it does not have the FET flashes

nocturne wrote:
I think I understand what the flashes are when ramping
congrats on the new job

yes the midramp flashes mean FET, top flashes just mean top

but ramping is so fast that if I try to get the highest output before the double flash for FET, I end up somewhere between 75 and 150 lumens on my meter..

I get 130 lumens on step 11 of 12 with a 200 lumen ceiling… iow, only the 12th level is above FET..

I have the advantage of being able to measure lumens…

bottom line is the FWAA FET boundary seems to be around 150 lumens, but there is no way I can hit that with smooth ramping.. I either overshoot or undershoot

so.. to me, the double blink is just an exercise in frustration

plus its inconsistent.. as there is no double blink in stepped mode… I cant hit 150 in stepped either, but I can come closer, consistently, using a step I know is below 150 lumens

I just use stepped to avoid the double flash, most of my use is below FET level anyway

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nocturne wrote:
I haven’t posted in some time… got a job is all. Exhausting. I don’t remember it being so tiring to work FT, say, even 6 years ago. I just read that new report about metabolism dropping quickly as one ages… must be that. Anyway, missed you all, and will continue missing you Smile
Congrats on the job! What’s your domain and role? Sleep. Gotta get more sleep. That’s just the way it is as we age. If we starve ourselves of sleep, we lose energy AND we encourage health problems. Buy yourself a new mattress and pillows. Don’t skimp. You sleep every single day on that stuff, so it should be the best you can afford!
jon_slider wrote:
I just use stepped to avoid the double flash, most of my use is below FET level anyway
I avoid stepless ramping when I can. I am chuffed that Anduril can let us define as many steps as we want. With this, I can hit the brightness I need with ease. When it’s stepless, I can’t decide where to stop! A bit OCD, I guess. LOL Wink
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Fireflies lights that i have do not have the flashes during ramping… something i noticed but can’t say for sure (i have several, but have not checked to make sure) although i don’t mind either way.

Sometimes it’s nice to know where you’re at and sometimes it’s nice to be smooth jazzy.

Kind of wish there was a fade in out to memorized level ala klaurus. With adjustable fade speed. Need to upgrade my coding game first unless somebody?

I have some non flashlight lamps like that. Just saying, since we’re talking ramping.

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Linking here to document the mod on my FWAA, towards a bastardized FW1AA Big Smile

https://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1797587#comment-1797587

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MascaratumB wrote:
Linking here to document the mod on my FWAA, towards a bastardized FW1AA Big Smile

https://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1797587#comment-1797587

I’m just curious… what’s the point of doing this? I mean of course it’ll be more of a thrower, but aren’t there other AA lights already in existence of the same form factor with decent throw?
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xevious wrote:
MascaratumB wrote:
Linking here to document the mod on my FWAA, towards a bastardized FW1AA Big Smile

https://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1797587#comment-1797587

I’m just curious… what’s the point of doing this? I mean of course it’ll be more of a thrower, but aren’t there other AA lights already in existence of the same form factor with decent throw?

Hum, it will not be a “thrower” per se, it will only have a more narrow beam, if compared with the FWAA triple.

As for the size, the smallest AA light with clicky switch is the DQG Slim Ti, and I’d say that this is the second smallest now! All the other AA lights do not have this form factor! I would bet that it will probably be smaller than the upcoming FW1AA

The DGQ doesn’t allow UI configuration, nor does it allow “turbo” or firelfly modes, or even the blinkies! This one will allow.
I could have kept the original light and change only the LEDs and optic, but then…there would be no fun!

And besides all this, the fun of modding and doing something a) useful, b) usable and c) different, thrills me Beer

Again, comparing sizes…nothing gets near these FWAA lights, even if mine is now modded!
Jaxman E3 > Tool AA V2.0 > Skilhunt M150 > FWAA modded > DGQ Slim Ti > FWAA

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jon_slider wrote:
Mkphc wrote:
My problem is with the “soft retention”
No, cutting the bend off wont increase the grip of the clip.

I agree the clip does not have strong retention. Maybe in the future there will be a better option. The clip location does not ride on any knurling, the grip is only against smooth surfaces. The clip is also not deep carry enough, for my liking.

you could try bending the clip to increase pressure, but it wont solve the lack of deep carry, and it will still be riding only on smooth surfaces of the light. So I dont think bending will produce meaningful change, but here is a visual for you to consider:

Meanwhile, Ive been entertained experimenting flipping the body (right pic), which I like. I also experimented flipping the clip (middle pic), which I also like, but the light wont turn on that way.

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Wow, I really like the middle option, to bad it will not work.

EDC rotation:
KR4, SST-20 FA3 4000k (favorite!)
FW3A, Nichia 4000k sw40 r9080 (second favorite)
FW1A, LH351D 3500k (third favorite)
FW1A, XP-L Hi 3A
FW3A, LH351D 3500k
FW3A, SST20 FD2 4000k
FW3A, Cree XP-L Hi 5A3
Emisar D4V2, SST20 4000k
Emisar D4V2, brass E21A 3500k (night light of choice)

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here is another option:

requires using two lenses (I put the sapphire lens on top of the glass lens)

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got a new toy (tool), for measuring CCT, CRI, Tint, and Flicker…
Opple Light Master Pro

FWAA w sw35

at 0.3 lumens:

at 14 lumens:

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Got mine this morning, it’s properly small unlike many AA lights, very nice. Very, very floody though, I chose 219Cs 4000K but should probably have gone with SST-20s. I think I’ll try slicing them to improve that a bit, as well as the tint, regarding the later here are measurements with the default advanced UI steps :

L1

CCT = 3781K (Duv 0.0013)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 94.0 [ R9 = 75.5 ]
IES TM-30-15 Rf = 87.54 Rg = 95.84

L2

CCT = 3808K (Duv 0.0014)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 93.9 [ R9 = 74.5 ]
IES TM-30-15 Rf = 87.68 Rg = 95.94

L3

CCT = 3806K (Duv 0.0015)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 93.8 [ R9 = 74.2 ]
IES TM-30-15 Rf = 87.66 Rg = 95.90

L4

CCT = 3873K (Duv 0.0046)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 91.3 [ R9 = 61.4 ]
IES TM-30-15 Rf = 88.55 Rg = 96.06

L5

CCT = 3911K (Duv 0.0049)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 90.4 [ R9 = 56.9 ] IES TM-30-15 Rf = 88.54 Rg = 96.05

L6

CCT = 3897K (Duv 0.0036)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 91.0 [ R9 = 58.5 ]
IES TM-30-15 Rf = 88.29 Rg = 95.95

L7

CCT = 3896K (Duv 0.0015)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 92.0 [ R9 = 62.5 ]
IES TM-30-15 Rf = 87.84 Rg = 95.71

L2 no lens

CCT = 3892K (Duv -0.0013)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 95.0 [ R9 = 81.1 ]
IES TM-30-15 Rf = 88.23 Rg = 97.17

L3 no lens

CCT = 3895K (Duv -0.0008)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 94.8 [ R9 = 80.1 ]
IES TM-30-15 Rf = 88.06 Rg = 96.92

As soon as the FET turns on the tint degrades, it can be seen quite easily.

The lens adds roughly +0.0025 which is pretty bad Sad

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random update

I really like my Cu FWAA host

present incarnation w led swap, sapphire lens and o ring under the button

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FWAA 219c 4000K

Installed the O ring mod in the tailswitch, and added a few dots of glow paint to the mcpcb

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the 219c tint is Peachy, and it renders skin tones much better than LH351d

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