Anduril 2 lockout moonlight modes

I wanted to check this observation on my recently flashed to Anduril 2 Q8… and I am still seeing 4 SPOTS 8 hours later.
So on this light the 1H moonlight definitely is NOT the same level as 2H
HAHA!

Lol! I refuse to admit to the number of times i’ve seen those spots. It wasn’t me! :smiley:

I can see how that is an obvious possibility.

However, i have just got my SP10 to do the same by turning off manual memory, i now the same brightness for both 1H and 2H from lockout and i assume it’s because both stepped and ramping floors are the same brightness.
I don’t see a way to set separate floor levels for stepped and smooth ramping in simple UI though so manual memory would need to be set for 2 lockout mode brightnesses.

you do it from Advanced mode.

turn on the light and select either smooth or stepped ramp, using 3C, then turn the light off

now do 10H and let go at the first flash. clic one time and just wait for the light to finish flickering… done…

same for both smooth and stepped, from off in advanced, 10H lets you set the floor of that ramp style, for simple mode
(you need to be in advaned to set the level for simple)…

now the two floors you set for simple mode, will be what you get from lockout, after you do 10C from off to be back in simple mode

Thanks. That’s what i initially thought, and it works for Advanced UI, but when i change the Simple UI floor (using 10H from off in advanced UI) it changes the floor for both ramping modes at the same time regardless of whether i’m in stepped or smooth in either simple or advanced.

And, funny enough, i’m going to quote pretty much the same bit of TK’s manual that i just quoted in the ‘What did you mod today’ thread:

“For smooth ramping mode, there are three menu options:

1. Floor. (default = 1/150)
2. Ceiling. (default = 120/150)
3. Ramp speed. (default = 1, fastest speed)

For the stepped ramping mode, there are three menu options:

1. Floor. (default = 20/150)
2. Ceiling. (default = 120/150)
3. Number of steps. (default = 7)

For the Simple UI mode, there are four menu options. The first three
are the same as stepped ramping mode.

1. Floor. (default = 20/150)
2. Ceiling. (default = 120/150)
3. Number of steps. (default = 5)
4. Turbo style. (default = 0, no turbo)”

To me that reads as one set of settings for the Simple UI.
Just in case i’m misinterpreting that, and the SP10 is slightly different to standard Anduril 2, i’m going to try it on the KR4. But that’s downstairs and i’m upstairs so may take a while… :slight_smile:

> 4. Turbo style. (default = 0, no turbo)

thanks, I did not know that :wink:

FYI according to Toykeepers Anduril 2 manual smooth ramping should default to a floor of 1 and stepped should default to a floor of 20. If that is done, then out of the box, your lockout 1H and 2H would be different levels. That said I don’t believe any of my Anduril 2 lights actually shipped that way. I had to configure the stepped floor (which is easy enough, but I agree it isn’t intuitive that those two functions are identical out of the box).

He was probably in momentary mode (5C from ON). He should probably stick to the simple UI interface. That’s how I use Anduril 2, since I have no use for the fun blinky modes.

Yeah lots of complaining. Truth is op you did something to put it into that state. ALL my Andruil 2 lights do exactly what you are asking about right out the box. I’d do a factory reset and try again since you seem to be confused.

Every single Anduril 2 light I have from Emisar/Noctigon arrived with both floors set to 1. This includes 9A driver, 12A driver, dual channel driver, and boost driver. It appears to be universal among Hanks lights that they ship this way. So I wouldn’t jump all over this guy saying he caused it. If you order a light from Hank, you will have to configure your ramp floors or your lockout momentary modes will be identical.

I can honestly say the exact opposite. When was the last time you got a light?

D4K 12A driver like a week ago. Both ramps set to floor of 1. Previous was a D1 and two dual channel D4V2s. Both identical on all lights. The floors were both 1 on the D1, and while I’m not sure what the floors were set to on the dual channel D4s (somewhere in the 10-15 range I think) the smooth and stepped were identical. Before that it was a 12V KR1, before that a standard DM11, etc., etc. Everything I’ve ever ordered from Hank with Anduril 2 has the floors set the same for both ramps.

Edit: and perhaps I should clarify I’m talking about advanced mode. I’m not sure what the floors are on simple mode as I never use it myself and only configure it for use by friends which does not involve worrying about the floor.

Yes, Hank’s flashlights are set to identical floor mostly. You can see it in the configuration files.

Excuse me, could you get off your hobby horse please.

The issues is when RESET by DEFAULT this doesn’t work. So you are 100% wrong with your last comment.

The issue is present on two lights:

-Emisar D1 Mini
-Noctigon DM11

Having to do 20 clicks or so to program something that is clearly wrong is at best a poor workaround. Because if you do another reset all of this will be lost.

As an enthusiast, I think this is poor. As a professional software tester I think this is poor design. Maybe it is the implementation Hank is doing, I don’t know. But how the lights arrive (and they weren’t cheap!!!) they are not configured correctly and there seems to be no way to actually set them up in a way that doesn’t risk being nuked should you actually need to reset them.

Tell me, how is this not a backwards step?

My Noctigon KR1 using Anduril does not have this issue, nor to any of my Astrolux lights on the older Anduril.

In my experience, not all Anduril 2 lights are the same. So, the manual may not apply 100% of the time. Some are configured differently with different settings and some have different features.

I understand your frustration, but this is to be expected when source code for the firmware is freely available for every manufacturer to fiddle with. It would be nice if manufacturers manage and document the software updates, so we can better track the updates. But I don’t think we can expect that level of thoroughness from small flashlight companies.

However, if you have some programming skills, you can configure the light to behave however you wish without having to program the whole thing.

Changing the floor of an Anduril light is no big deal.

doing 20 clics is no big deal,
there is even a way to do it with 2 clics

OP apparently missed this:

another way to get a 2H from lockout to be different than 1H, is to set Manual Memory… it just requires:
Reading the Manual, and clicking … that is the Anduril Way

Calling this an issue, as if it’s a problem or a fault is not accurate. There is also nothing backwards about it. I’m sure there are plenty of people who would prefer the floor be at the lowest level for smooth and stepped ramping.
My question is what would happen if the floor was set to 1 on stepped and raised to 10 or 20 on the smooth ramping? What would happen when locked?

1H gives whichever floor is lower, 2H gives whichever floor is higher, OR if manual memory is enabled, 2H gives the manual memory output.

Yep, I should have read through the whole thread again.

So this guy has a point I think. He is just relating it in an unproductive way with negativity instead of constructive criticism. Hank’s default configuration could probably be better. All my Anduril version 1 lights from Hank had the floor of stepped mode set higher than the floor of smooth mode, so the two lockout momentaries were different. Having just gone through my lights from other manufacturers, this seems to be the norm even with Anduril 2. Hank’s Anduril 2 lights default to the same floor on both ramps. Obviously it is a matter of opinion but I think it made more sense the old way. I don’t need moonlight as a step in stepped ramping, and it also means you have a moon and a low from lockout. It’s easy enough to set up, but I don’t know why Hank decided to go that direction with default values.

Both of my SP10’s do the same. I can live with it.