All I’m saying is it makes no sense to be able to increase the ceiling to max instead of having an option to enable regular turbo
But there was no turbo in muggle mode before and you can still access turbo in advanced UI. If you don’t like it, stop selling these lights or write your own firmware. There is even a flag to enable the previous behavior! Manufacturers can decide to enable it.
I just agree with Lux above. Anduril limits those models to a small population of users, having a fully operational Simple UI it would be much more popular.
I don’t have the money to buy in bulk to get my own firmware used, unfortunately.
Can’t I make a case about it though, it is an Anduril thread to discuss V2. Others have requested it if you back track through the pages.
Maybe a poll should be opened to see just how many would prefer a Turbo setting
It’s 1 line of code you need to add to revert the changes in the main UI as far as I know. Can you reflash lights yourself in the meantime?
I haven’t looked into adding turbo in the simple UI but I’m pretty sure it’s changes to a few lines of code at most.
If drivers came with accessible pads I’d be flashing my own, but most have to be removed and that’s time consuming with glued units.
If a setting won’t be added it’s no big deal to make a video for my customers showing how to configure the ramp, or even make a note who want it shipped like that.
It’s just odd that there’s no “ON/Off Turbo setting” when there’s the option to enable max ramping
A couple pages back someone posted the code to enable Turbo
Does anyone have an aswer for roostre’s question? I’d like to know as well
2C+2C to Turbo, does 2C bring you down to max ceiling or the level you were at to begin with? It would be annoying to have to ramp to your preferred level
Second double click goes back to low brightness, not turbo.
Then how do you get to Turbo?
You need to ramp up to ceiling, then you can double click to turbo. It’s a pain
I am still hoping that some of the experts here who are skilled in coding could somehow build that UI I drafted before. It would be closer to a classic UI like Sofirn's or Wurkkos's basic UIs but it could benefit from TK's Andúril code using a smoother ramping curve and better thermal parameters. Unfortunately, I am not smart enough to create such a firmware myself. Sofirn, Wurkkos and Yakorsei would be deeply interested, just to name a few manufacturers/vendors. They could either sell their lights with this simplified, classic UI or with Andúril 1/2. If they were to offer flashing pads on their drivers they could even enable users to flash their favorite UI onto their lights.
I’d be very interested. Start your own thread and maybe someone could chip in
Actually, there is already a thread of mine about these ideas...
https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/65021
It seems some experienced members might be interested in bringing this to life someday.
That looks like what I’m ideally after, thanks for the link
I consider myself a reasonably competent enthusiast flashlight user, and in the original Anduril the special modes and config menus were very much in the way for me. I literally only know how to enable stepped ramp because I accidentally ended up in it so often. Handing a light to anyone was a disaster when they immediately started randomly clicking. The simple UI is exactly what I always wanted from Anduril, and I suspect many users would agree. There’s no reason the standard ramp config couldn’t be enabled in simple UI with a flag, just like stepped ramping. You could even do the same thing with strobe modes to capture the vast majority of use cases.
The entire point of simple mode is that you can reliably lock out the absolute highest output on the light, and that when handing it to someone they won’t change that setting or another by clicking randomly. There isn’t a “enable/disable turbo” option because that isn’t a binary setting. It’s simply that the max output on Simple mode is always whatever the ceiling for it is set to (which is independent of the stepped and smooth ramp configs for advanced mode). There is no ceiling vs turbo to toggle between, and no higher output turbo with 2H from off in simple mode.
According to TK’s first post, the point of simple UI is to provide the “core functions” of “on (ramp), off, lockout, and battery check”. It’s not meant to be the same thing as muggle mode, though obviously turbo is restricted for similar reasons. As far as I can tell, the only difference is turbo_level is set to mode_max rather than MAX_LEVEL, which could easily just be a flag in the simple UI config menu.
It also says this:
I don’t see how having an additional setting for enabling/disabling turbo (how do you determine what the max output is when disabled? Max regulated would vary greatly between CC driver and FET+1 lights) is in any way an improvement over simply setting the ceiling to the desired max. I don’t mean that to be snarky, I literally don’t see why that option is being requested or what the implementation would look like.
Edit: I might be dumb… :person_facepalming: Are those asking for the toggle wanting something that enables both ceiling AND turbo for simple mode? That I could definitely understand, but I also see the current iteration being the way it is for the sake of simplicity too. Having the option as a toggle does seem like it would be nice.
Yes, if it wasn’t clear, that’s exactly what I meant. I just want simple UI to have the same ramp behaviour as advanced UI, with a separate ceiling and turbo level. That’s easy to accomplish by simply commenting out a couple lines, but I’d prefer if it were a toggle in the config menu so I can remove turbo for muggles when necessary.
What level is used for blinking voltage, temp, etc - DEFAULT_LEVEL defined in config?