Interested, L2 preferred but depends on the price. I hope it will be interesting.
XM-L2 interest only and driver DD on high as per 18sixfifty review.
Count me in assuming the same DD driver.
Iām in
There is a lot of group buy fatigue right now. I sure feel it. This one, though, seems to have the best potential value because of the cell capacity, heat sinking, and throw (I hear). I may be wrong because I don't really follow multi-emitters. Anyone have an thoughts/info I should be aware of?
I would say the 12 XM-L I modded here is way better.
The head of the light in this GB is only 74mm according to GearBest. That is the same as a typical 9 XM-L light, if not smaller. Since its using 12 emitters, you will get smaller reflectors, and less throw. With a 12 emitter light you already have enough floo IMO. I also think the reflector design is bad, and not optimized.
The 12 XM-L light I linked to uses 6 18650 cells instead. Offers better runtime and potentially more oomph at lower weight per mAh.
Ofcourse, its preference when it comes to formfactor and such. The 12 XM-L stubby will also have more amps running through it since its only 2 cells in series, and that can be a con.
Personally, if I wanted a toilet plunger with a head size of less than 80mm, id rather have a 9 emitter light. Easier to make a more usable beam, and still enough emitters to make it overheat in no time if you make it into a hotrod.
Not a fan of the design of this light either. Looks like they took the battery tube from a completely different light. Just looks wrong to me.
If people are going not going to mod it, and get the "good powerful driver", then this is probably great value.
If they are going to mod it in order to get rid of blinky modes, or fix the annoying next mode memory, then they might as well look for the better host. A 9 XM-L light can usually often be bought for as low as 50$. With a GB, probably lower. A zener modded fet driver can be built for around 7$, and max output does not need to be 100% if that is too much. That could give you similar performance, but with better throw and lower price for a modded light.
Just my opinion...
I think you meant flooders? If not, this is certainly not the right thread. :D
I prefer multi emitter flooders with an emitter number that can be divided on cell number (in series) and end up with a nice even number. Easy to mod with FET driver in case the stock driver is junk. Which it usually is.
J12 and 18 does not fit that criteria. But there are ways around it. Ouchyfoot have some interesting mod threads.
A 9 XM-L light can normally be picked up for 49$. Example. If you can get a coupon on top of that, you could be looking at closer to 45$. I cant verify build quality, but usually most of those lights are very similar as far as my experience goes.
May not be the right thread for discussion other lights either...
I don't mind the OT, keep on talking.. :)
The light RacerR86 linked to seems to be a decent mod host. Nothing wrong in that, and I appreciate hearing mod ideas for it (or any other light for that matter).
I started working on this GB when another member brought this light into my attention, and I instantly saw the potential: Powerful driver (7000lm with XML version as stock), pretty good design, and possibility for budget friendly price. On the other hand, it has some flaws and possibilities to improve.. So trying to iron out those flaws was considered to be a good idea, or at least worth trying => if we manage to make this happen, also the non-modders can enjoy a >7000lm light with usable lower modes (spacing, PWM).
Thanks for your efforts. the
For non modders a very bright light for budget amount$
Very good food for thought. Thank you RaceR86 for that response.
Interested in the model 18sixfifty reviewed, with XML2s. No XML2s is not a dealbreaker, but it must be the same or better driver and output light like the one 18sixfifty reviewed from lightscastle, I have no interest in at all otherwise.
Was the reflector the same as this one 18sixfifty? I seem to recall the review with a different reflector, indicating this may be a different light?
Sorry guys. I need to opt out of this one. Seems like a heck of a light, but not quite what I'm looking for at this time.
The GB preparation is going forward. The manufacturer is willing to make changes (at least adjust modes and fix the mode memory) if we take enough lights. Initially we have discussed the limit being 20pcs, maybe 50pcs, depending on our requirements..
I think four modes with wide spacing would be good compromise. Three is too little, five is too much - at least for me. I don't like the KD 5-mode driver, as the modes are too near to each other.
Maybe something like 1%->15%->50%->100% (100lm->1000lm->3500lm->7000lm)
Another thing is that we will probably go for L2 version. It's won't be that much more expensive.
Anyways, the negotiations will continue and I'll keep you updated. :)
Interested. Please add me to the list. I note that the same claimed make and model number is also listed by FastTech with XM-L2 LEDs and a $1.30 lower normal price.
http://www.fasttech.com/product/1519900-ultrafire-lw-12l2-12-cree-xm-l2-t6-5-mode-8800lm
I have purchased from them with good luck so far. Any dealer preferences among members? Could negotiations by _ the _ with both sellers give a advantage regarding price or features?
Personally I would prefer XM-L2 LEDs and a modified UI that includes a <1% low output mode and no strobe or SOS. Four or 5 levels with level below High set for max continuous output and include a turbo timer and battery under voltage protection.
interested also, especially if xml2
Negotiating with different dealers but with same manufacturer would be quite tricky and lead to severe misunderstandings => I'd prefer keep negotiating with Gearbest. Dora has done fantastic job here so far. :)
[quote=Richwouldnt] a turbo timer and battery under voltage protection. [/quote]
Would be nice, but given the time constraints, most probably won't happen.
I might be interested in one.
please PM me for the price 
Is this GB still going??
No worries. It hasn't even started yet.