Convoy L6... XHP70 Beast!

[maukka]

Got my L6 w/ 3A 5000K LED and love it! Creamy neutral white which renders trees and grass very nicely.

Beamshot comparison below. I tried my best to adjust Adobe Camera Raw settings to match what I saw. Every image is converted from raw with the exact same settings but with the saturation turned down a bit not to exaggarate the color temp differences.

[jochemalex]

@J-Dub74

@jochemalex

Has anyone bought the Convoy L6 XHP70 N4-3A from FastTech? im wondering if its really the n4-3a. Thats would mean 5000K light with the brightness of the 6000k one, right? However, I didn’t see it in the list of options on the first page so I am having doubts.

I’m glad you mentioned this. To my knowledge Simon did not source any N4 3A emitters. It’s unlikely that a special deal was worked out though not impossible. I have contacted both Simon and Fasttech for clarification on this. If their listing is correct then that’s a sweet deal. If not, I have asked that it be corrected. The difference between the two would mean nothing to the average person but BLF is not comprised of average people and at the very least I want to see Convoy products listed accurately. I will post here when I have more info.

Have you gotten any feedback on this yet?

[Texas_Ace]

@maukka

Got my L6 w/ 3A 5000K LED and love it! Creamy neutral white which renders trees and grass very nicely.

Beamshot comparison below. I tried my best to adjust Adobe Camera Raw settings to match what I saw. Every image is converted from raw with the exact same settings but with the saturation turned down a bit not to exaggarate the color temp differences.

I like the high CRI K60, I was actually just telling J-dubs that the L6 would be amazing with a High CRI bulb, even more so then a lot of other lights IMO. It has the lumens to spare first off plus it is so widely versatile a High CRI LED would really pay off.

[sidecross]

@maukka

Got my L6 w/ 3A 5000K LED and love it! Creamy neutral white which renders trees and grass very nicely.

+1

Edit: mine is a 3C and it is much to my liking.

[teacher]

@jochemalex

@J-Dub74

@jochemalex

Has anyone bought the Convoy L6 XHP70 N4-3A from FastTech? im wondering if its really the n4-3a. Thats would mean 5000K light with the brightness of the 6000k one, right? However, I didn’t see it in the list of options on the first page so I am having doubts.

I’m glad you mentioned this. To my knowledge Simon did not source any N4 3A emitters. It’s unlikely that a special deal was worked out though not impossible. I have contacted both Simon and Fasttech for clarification on this. If their listing is correct then that’s a sweet deal. If not, I have asked that it be corrected. The difference between the two would mean nothing to the average person but BLF is not comprised of average people and at the very least I want to see Convoy products listed accurately. I will post here when I have more info.

Have you gotten any feedback on this yet?

I checked out the FastTech site and I found the N2 - 3A emitter advertised. LINK Here

Have they changed the ad since the above was written?

I find they have both the N2-3A & N4-1C advertised today.

[J-Dub74]

@teacher

@jochemalex

@J-Dub74

@jochemalex

Has anyone bought the Convoy L6 XHP70 N4-3A from FastTech? im wondering if its really the n4-3a. Thats would mean 5000K light with the brightness of the 6000k one, right? However, I didn’t see it in the list of options on the first page so I am having doubts.

I’m glad you mentioned this. To my knowledge Simon did not source any N4 3A emitters. It’s unlikely that a special deal was worked out though not impossible. I have contacted both Simon and Fasttech for clarification on this. If their listing is correct then that’s a sweet deal. If not, I have asked that it be corrected. The difference between the two would mean nothing to the average person but BLF is not comprised of average people and at the very least I want to see Convoy products listed accurately. I will post here when I have more info.

Have you gotten any feedback on this yet?

I checked out the FastTech site and I found the N2 - 3A emitter advertised. LINK Here

Have they changed the ad since the above was written?

I find they have both the N2-3A & N4-1C advertised today.

Yeah, sorry everyone I guess I forgot to post that. Fasttech’s listing was wrong. There are no N4 3A from Simon. They also posted a beamshot picture with the words “provided by manufacturer” across it which was…let’s say a “mistake” to be nice. The beam shots were not provided by Simon but taken from stephenk’s review of the L6. I contacted all three parties and the listing has been corrected and the photo removed.

Cheers,
J-Dub

[teacher]

@J-Dub74

Yeah, sorry everyone I guess I forgot to post that. Fasttech’s listing was wrong. There are no N4 3A from Simon. They also posted a beamshot picture with the words “provided by manufacturer” across it which was…let’s say a “mistake” to be nice. The beam shots were not provided by Simon but taken from stephenk’s review of the L6. I contacted all three parties and the listing has been corrected and the photo removed.

Cheers,
J-Dub

Thanks J-Dub. :+1:
So is FastTech’s ad correct now? N2-3A or N4-1C are the choices they advertise.

EDIT: Oops, missed your last sentence. :person_facepalming:

[sidecross]

My light is ‘L6 N2-3C’ purchased through Adventure Sport Flashlights.

[atbglenn]

I ordered a spare driver from Simon. You never know when you might need to replace it. Hopefully never. For $4.78, it’s a no-brainer. What I like about the L6, besides it’s excellent performance to cost ratio, is it’s easily serviceable (it’s not glued together like Fenix and others). Parts are readily available, unlike most expensive name brands out there.

[teacher]

Mine are N4-1C & N4-5000K purchased from GearBest a couple of months ago.

This one, N4-5000K; was not advertised with a “tint designation”, it just said 5000K. ???

[sidecross]

The Convoy L6 N4-1A is listed at 6500k on: http://asflashlights.com/convoy-flashlights/92-convoy-l6-3800-lumen-cree-xhp70-1a-and-3c.html

[teacher]

Yeah, on GB the N4-1C is listed 6000-6500K.

The way the N4 is listed on GB (5000-K) I figure it is either a 3 - A, B, C, or D tint. But “figure” (or guess) is the operative word.

[J-Dub74]

@teacher

Yeah, on GB the N4-1C is listed 6000-6500K.

The way the N4 is listed on GB (5000-K) I figure it is either a 3 - A, B, C, or D tint. But “figure” (or guess) is the operative word.

That…would be another vendor typo I’m afraid. :person_facepalming:
There is no N4 emitter from Simon in 5000K.
The 5000K emitter offered by Convoy is an N2. The 5700K on the other hand is an N4. :face_with_monocle:

[BrianK]

@vestureofblood

Hi all,

I just posted some information on doing some simple mods to the L6 if anyone is interested.
Convoy L6 Mod, How to double your lux!

Thanks for the video!

If the resistor is added does it also affect the lower intensities?

[teacher]

@J-Dub74

@teacher

Yeah, on GB the N4-1C is listed 6000-6500K.

The way the N4 is listed on GB (5000-K) I figure it is either a 3 - A, B, C, or D tint. But “figure” (or guess) is the operative word.

That…would be another vendor typo I’m afraid. :person_facepalming:
There is no N4 emitter from Simon in 5000K.
The 5000K emitter offered by Convoy is an N2. The 5700K on the other hand is an N4. :face_with_monocle:

….
OK, so the N4-5000K listed at GearBest is really a N2-3A 5000K as per what is offered HERE , at what I presume is Simon’s Convoy Store???

BUT, is the N4-1C offered HERE at GearBest not the same as the N4-1C 6000K offered RIGHT HERE in Simon’s AliExpress store??

Are we confused yet :person_facepalming: …… …

[DB_Custom (Dale)]

To be, or not to be, that is the question. Unless it’s 3C or 1A or some otherwise unknown variant.

[sidecross]

@DB Custom

To be, or not to be, that is the question. Unless it’s 3C or 1A or some otherwise unknown variant.

The wings of Vultures and the art of counterfeit stir the air too.

[DB_Custom (Dale)]

The XHP-70 I bought for my SR-90 was from Cutter, reported to have been tested by them at 96CRI. If I remember correctly it’s in the 5700K range. The lumens output or binning is lower than some others but it is still producing right at 5000 lumens (4964.55) now that I have the pair of 6000mAh Trustfire 32650’s in that light. This is a very pleasing tint and power level, and I’ve only ever seen it advertised at Cutter.

The one I got, also from Cutter, that is now in my L6 was the highest binned output level available at that time. I’ve thought about modding it to more than the 6.3A it’s doing now, and really I probably will, as I don’t tend to use any of my lights for long periods so if it wants to get hot, then I can always make a heat sink for it or something.

[teacher]

@DB Custom

To be, or not to be, that is the question. Unless it’s 3C or 1A or some otherwise unknown variant.

Yep, that do be the question it appears….

It seems in Simon’s AliExpress Store the L6 has been offered at one time or another with the emitters listed below. Although at present time the only one’s available are those in BOLD

N2 3A 5000K <> N2 5A 4000K <> N2 7C 3000K <> N4 1C 6000K <> N4 2A 5700K

[DB_Custom (Dale)]

I had previously stacked a single R140 resistor on the pair of R082 already present for 6.36A from my L6 at around 4600 lumens. Just now I added an R056 to the mix and it pulls 7.42A at the emitter for a lumens output of 4971.75.

I thought about slicing the dome and going with a mirror finish reflector but chose not to in the end. I’ve not liked the tint shift in the past and these emitters have given a lot of issues with people slicing them, whether from being contaminated and not being cleaned before being powered up or whatever reason, I chose not to risk it here.

I know my cells aren’t fresh, but they should be fairly full and rested so this is probably a pretty good read on it. From all indications, 7.42A is pretty much in the sweet spot on this so unless I get a wild hair and decide to shave, this is where it’ll stay.

Edit: Assuming everyone saw the to be (2B) pun….