Have two lights - Wizard C2 LH351D Warm and Skilhunt H02 XML-2 Neutral White.
I am not very picky, and these both suit me completely and seem approximately the same shade.
Plan to buy also a Convoy H1, 75 degrees but there is only a color temperature.
Please tell me what temperature to choose, that would be like these two lights?
4000K, 5000K…?
Not sure exactly which were used in those two lights…might be mentioned in a good thorough past review. Generally “neutral” white has been around 5000K. This just came about after years and years of only cold white 6000K+ being available in most lights sold and before neutral/warm became more widely available. Sometimes companies state “warm” for a temp that is more along the “neutral” lines.
If I were you I’d probably order the 519A emitter in 5000K temp and it will likely be around the same temp with much nicer tint and color rendition…very nice on the eyes. I love the 4500K temp in that emitter and that’s noticeable warmer but not “warm” really…very nice. It might be a bigger difference than what you’re used to though, depending. The 219C options will be very similar to the LH351D overall…not sure what bins Simon has for the 219B but generally that emitter has tended toward a rosier tint which a lot of people like (not all 219B bins are like that, though). The 519A has proven to be a fantastic emitter in lots of different configurations even though it’s a very new model.
Agreed. For OP-oldman777: If I have to hazard a guess, warm white would be 4000k or below, and neutral white would be 4000-5000k.
Personally if I would only have 1 or 2 lights, I would try to stay in the 4000-5000k range. And if possible stay with Nichia 219b or 519a LED like Correllux suggested.
I noticed both of your lights have angled head? If you like angled small light and don’t mind the weight then check out Convoy H2 https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803388357558.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt&\_randl_shipto=US. I have nothing but praise for them. Do keep in mind they are a little too heavy if you are going to wear on forehead. I would recommend to stay with 4500k version for the perfect middle ground.
If you like bright more throwy light like these M21B/E/F with Getian GT-FC40 LED then I would highly recommend the 4500k version.
Thanks for reminder. I believe mine is the post-armageddon :person_facepalming: version of the light where Simon has lowered the current. No smoke so far on Turbo.
Thanks for your advice.
About ten years ago, I was fond of light for various purposes. Now this is only for minor indoor repairs. I think that 4500K-5000K is what I need.
Oh you’re a seasoned veteran. :+1: I’m sure you’ve already noticed newer Convoy lights like M21E and F have integral USB-C charging and side button. Both features I like very much; particularly the side button, easier to use for me.
The Convoy Nichia light S21D should have a new version in a few weeks that also has side button and USB-C charging.
Yes, I still follow the novelties from time to time but buy only if necessary… I have a pair of lights with a side button Nitecore EA1 and EA11.
I also tried to use the USB charging, but it turned out to be not convenient for me.
When I do something and my battery was discharged, I quickly replace it with already charged and continue to work.
I always have a few battery pieces in a charged state.
I love my Convoy H2 with Nichia 219b, it is a fantastic headlight for evening walks, with great sustained brightness and throw (OP reflector, not TIR). The weight means you need a good headstrap though.
(Repost from the other Convoy thread as it is actually a lot more relevant here.)
The trio of FC40 Convoy lights were tested for temp during a Turbo “run-down,” @ room temp 26° C. I tail-stand the lights and start at Turbo level, then measure temp in next 30 minutes by pointing IR gun at the flashlights’ head, about 1 cm away. S21D was also included in the test.
The S21D with 519a immediately heated up to 60 C (limit of my IR gun), within ~5 minutes. The other lights (M21B x 2, M21F, and M21E) reached equilibrium at around 20-25 minutes. Temps at the end, 30 min after Turbo start:
M21B w/ B35AM: 42 C
M21E w/ FC40: 44 C
M21F w/ FC40: 50 C
M21B w/ FC40: 57 C
Glad I did the test; didn’t realize that there is such a large temp difference between the larger M21E versus M21B. I have all 3 so it doesn’t matter but if I have to pick one out of these 3, for me this is another reason to pick M21E over the other 2 FC40 lights.
S21D with 519a too hot to handle inside house, and better outdoor. M21B also is on the hot side.
I tried to measure at the lens and also the LED directly after taking lens off, but it was too hot, beyond limit of the IR gun (60 C).
Well Convoy H2 (if that’s what you’re asking about) and Coast XPH30R are the two heaviest headlamps I own, at 4.4 oz with battery. Short term wear there’s no problem, but for long term ~30-45 min wear, headlamps around 4 oz and up tend to make my forehead uncomfortable. But this is just me, YMMV of course.
For example in comparison my Sofirn D25L is 3.7 oz and Skilhunt H04R RC w/ Nichia 519a is 3.4 oz with battery. Skilhunt is like a little light weight jewel.
OTOH everything else about Convoy H2 I love: beautiful 219b 4500k LED, very bright (subjectively A LOT brighter than Skilhunt and Sofirn), great sustained brightness, throwy beam. All factors combined make it a fantastic headlamp for walks. Personally I would recommend either Olight or Skilhunt headbands with overhead strap for this light, and not Convoy’s own headband. I plan to compare these lights in my other Convoy Nichia thread in future.
The Convoy metal switches seem similar among Convoy lights so I am not sure if M21B’s switch will be much different from what you have?
Convoy metal vs rubber switch: personally I find both full press and half press much easier with metal switch, but don’t know how applicable that is to your situation on a bicycle.
The M21E w/GT-FC40 4500K LED looks like a great value. Has pricing been consistently around $28.50 USD? Also, what 21700 cell are you using with it, cannga?
@xevious sorry I don’t follow the cost so don’t know if there have been sales or not.
I did test with (IIRC) Littokala versus Samsung 40T and found no difference in Turbo start brightness. The Wurkkos TS30S with that monster LED SBT90.2 is the only light I have that shows Samsung 40T having a huge advantage.
Yes M21E is my favorite and most used light. 330 m throw + brightness + good Ra and R9 + beautiful Nichia-like color rendering. There’s really not much more I could ask for. Unique in today’s market place IMHO; you won’t regret it.
Thermal mass is yet another plus as seen in my home test below.
Yeah, the M21F appeals to me more visually, but the M21E has such a nice thermal management advantage. I splurged for a D1 (SFT-40), but I’ve been wanting to have a GT-FC40 to play with and the M21E is so attractively priced.
Btw, did you compare the TS30S to a Convoy equivalent/similar in characteristics / price, such as L21B, L7, or L8? If so, how did it stack up?
I was comparing Wurkkos with Convoy L8 and it was a touch choice. Any larger host like L8 will have better throw (but possibly/likely smaller hotspot) and thermal mass advantage. Wurkkos won because of its much lower price, smaller size, and lower weight (the last 2 factors significant consideration for me). No regret at all as the Wurkkos actually fits in my khaki pants’ side pocket (NOT tight pants, loose) and therefore gets used a lot. I don’t like “too large” lights but obviously YMMV.
version of the light where Simon has lowered the current. No smoke so far on Turbo.