Coronavirus **personal experiences** thread

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After reading that a coronavirus patient in New York survived by using Chloroquine

cliff notes:

The New Jersey health care worker James Cai, who was the state’s first coronavirus case says:

“When I tested positive for coronavirus, Chinese doctors recommended I be treated with the antimalarial medicine chloroquine”

“Most medical providers here don’t know about it,” Cai said.

“Fortunately I have the resources to access the information, or I would be dead and gone by now”

So, I asked my doctor about chloroquine access.

the standard response from my USA Medical Doctor was

“there is no clinical research, that is just anecdotal”

I recall years ago the establishment doctors said the same thing about using cannabis to cope with nausea induced by chemotherapy

So, I wonder how the New Jersey coronavirus patient gained access to the treatment…

Could this be like buying Tadalafil from India without a prescription for $2, instead of Cialis from Walgreens in USA, with a prescription, for $200?

having hit the conventional roadblock, I began by googling
“buy chloroquine online from India without a prescription”

one of the results was this article, in which TheDonald misrepresents the establishment FDA wisdom:

Americans are turning to one of Africa’s most common prescribed drugs to battle coronavirus

“This Thursday (Mar. 19) during the White House press briefing on coronavirus Covid-19 in the United States, US president Donald Trump surprised some observers in the medical sciences world when he revealed the US Food and Drugs Administration had approved the use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine for the treatment of the coronavirus in patients.”

The FDA actually has not approved chloroquine for coronavirus…

It seems the Chloroquine access question is a matter of “”grass roots”:https://www.thewailers.net/wailers-roots-rasta-reggae-rebels/” research, preceding the FDA regulatory process.

disclaimer, I do not play a Doctor on the Internet
this is not medical advice
I am not affiliated with the FDA, nor do I sell farmaceuticals online

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A quick question for those in the know (actually, two, or three) :

. Does high energy UV radiation kill viruses?

. Will ionized oxygen kill viruses?

. Is copper anti-viral?

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I was going to post a video from big Clive which shows him using a CAT infrared phone that give you pinpoint forehead temperatures from a distance, but it’s now been made private , I suspect he may have been urged to make it not available for some reason :wink:

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UV yes
Oxygen no (it only kills anaerobics, not aerobics)
Copper yes

alcohol also works, and imo is the most practical

as an example
imagine I want to disinfect the interior of my car

do I,
close my eyes, and or wear UV blockers and sunscreen, while shining the UV
or
plug a negative ion generator into the cigarette lighter socket
or
rub my copper flashlight all over the interior,
or
spray isopropyl alcohol, or soak a rag in alcohol, and wipe down the interior?

Can you see how the spray alcohol is the easiest application to reach and treat all the surfaces, even the airspace? While also having much lower risk of injuring the operator than UV.

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Rubbing your copper flashlight all over the interior of your car will do absolutely nothing to kill the Coronavirus.

A week or two it was in the news results of some study that showed how long the Coronavirus can survive on various different surfaces:

Suspended in air - 3 hours
Copper - 4 hours
Fibrous material - 24 hours
Hard material (metal, plastic) - 3 days

So yes, Copper is anti-viral and will kill Coronavirus, but briefly rubbing it across particles stuck to your car will do nothing productive.

The fraction of a second contact with the copper of your flashlight as you rub it over your car’s interior is far less than the 4-hours required for copper to actually kill the virus. Doing so would only kill viral particles which actually stuck to your light and stayed there. Most viral particles will probably not adhere to the copper and will stay stuck to your car surfaces. Or even worse, the act of rubbing your flashlight over them might dislodge them into the air where you breathe them in.

The best way to disinfect your car is probably using alcohol wipes or Clorox wipes. Lysol also works, but I think that takes 10 minutes of soaking to take effect so probably isn’t practical for your car.

If I could find hand sanitizer I’d stick a dispenser in my car door and use it every time I got back in the car after shopping for groceries. Unfortunately hand sanitizer isn’t available anywhere, so I’m wearing disposable gloves, then after my shopping trip I wipe down my car controls with a Clorox wipe.

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Here is vice president Biden’s prepared video on corona-virus that he released this morning.

We can avoid politics by not giving opinions on it, but it should be watched in it’s entirety, it starts at the 3:45 mark and runs about 16 minutes or so.

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I agree the copper is a non-starter, would damage my window tint too

the hand sanitizer is good

and imo the spray is even better, it lets me treat the coins I got as change more easily

and I can mist my clothing, and food packaging with it too

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Wish I could get alcohol spray or hand sanitizer. I placed an order with Amazon for alcohol wipes and hand sanitizer, but it won’t ship for at least 6 weeks.

At my local grocery store the entire cleaning aisle was empty except for maybe 1 can of oven cleaner. Lol.

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Got vodka?

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Vodka does not have a high enough alcohol content

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OK. But here the stores carry vodka that is about half that.

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190 Proof Ethanol Pure | Undenatured | 95% Alcohol | ACS-USP Food Grade In Bulk In 1, 5 or 55 Gallon Drums

“No federal permit required for purchase. ”
$90 per gallon

99% Isopropyl on ebay for $240 a gallon

(sold in 8oz increments @ $15)

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In high school we discovered that Everclear 190 Proof and frozen pink lemonade made a nice cocktail that the girls liked.

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These should just fit in the 160 proof vodka bottle. :smiling_imp:

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I just discovered this site…

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I have always hated artificial sweeteners, but recently I stumbled upon xylitol. Tastes just about like regular sugar, and it’s not actually artificial.

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Is it true that this virus has been leveraged to finally get Germany to agree to joint debt (bond) issuance with the other EU nations?

By the way, I believe the correct and accepted way to calculate mortality rate (like for any given nation and disease) has always been to divide the number of attributable deaths by the total population (I can cite 4 good sources including Encyclopedia Britannica). That table has cranked-up mortality numbers (scarier ones) due to using a different denominator, and the media loves to use these numbers but they’re creating an apples-to-oranges comparison by doing so. Actual mortality rate from Covid-19 to date is nowhere near as high as influenza mortality rates (but it has a ways to go yet).

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I understand that, yes. 5,5K is still considerable amount…

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Xylitol bubblegum has been basically the only kind of bubblegum that really sells here. For the last several decades.

Recommended by dentists, stops bacterial acidic attack against teeth after eating something