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[BazzH]

Received mine today. Put it through torture three time with 3 high current 18650 until to hot to handle, waited until cooled down so I could touch it again to switch on again. Replaced battery if it wouldn’t go 2 steps below turbo anymore. Still looks good. Nichia one. Sequence: Switch on in low, go to turbo until it goes back, let it run until too hot to the touch. Repeat until battery switching back again or getting too hot for safety. Replace battery and repeat. No problems whatsoever

Love this light. Have a faulty Manker and this solves everything. Love the low mode.

[vwpieces]

@Lightbringer

@pirate joe 22

Thanks. Has anyone said which company is making these instead of manker ?

UTorch.

Is that your original statement for did you COPY it from somewhere else?

[pirate_joe_22]

Manker is not a factory. They have to contract with a factory. Manker could easily be utorch. One of the factories Manker used could be utorch. I will be interested to see if anyone compares this utorch to a Manker model. If this utorch is badly designed, I will suspect it’s made by Manker again.

[patmurris]

I finally received the XPG3 replacement head. Looks good so far.

The bezel is not glued. Leds look fine.

This head seems to heat up rather quickly though… Just a few seconds on turbo and it’s already getting hot. I haven’t torture tested it yet… and i’m not sure i want to push my luck either.

Thank you Banggood for making this right.

[RollerBoySE]

I received my S41S colored replacement head with Nichias today and it works fine.
Had to pay for it though, since the original head hasn’t failed yet.

Now let’s see what I can use the original head for (before it fails)…
(it legos and works with an S2, but doesn’t cover the o-ring properly (and I don’t really want to file down the tube, cause then the S2 head won’t make contact any longer);
it’s a little bit short to make proper contact on an A6 from the first batch)

EDIT: Of course it legos well with the A6, turned out it was the tail section that wasn’t screwed on properly.

[pirate_joe_22]

In this thread

Utorch UT02 vs Manker U21, group buy review for UT02

Hello hello! Giorgoskok is hosting a group buy on the Utorch UT02 via GearBest and as many of you know it quickly came up that it’s nearly identical to the Manker U21. There have been some issues with the Manker light and so a lot of folks had questions. May at GearBest asked me if I’d have a look at both lights and give my honest opinion about how the Utorch UT02 stacks up… they came in today. Here’s links at GearBest for both lights, thanks again May… Manker U21 UTorch UT02 […

The utorch light uses manker parts. Lol.

[kiriba-ru]

@RollerBoySE

Now let’s see what I can use the original head for (before it fails)…
(it legos and works with an S2, but doesn’t cover the o-ring properly (and I don’t really want to file down the tube, cause then the S2 head won’t make contact any longer);
it’s a little bit short to make proper contact on an A6 from the first batch)

EDIT: Of course it legos well with the A6, turned out it was the tail section that wasn’t screwed on properly.

You should not try this. S2+ have 1.25 pitch metric thread while A6/S41 1.0 pitch metric thread.
Well, I dont wonder why manufactor is making changes and new parts dont fit older one. I wonder HOW astrolux/bangood have put two tubes (black S1) in one box with one flashlight that have 0.3mm OD threads difference.

[mattjk]

I see they have listed tailcaps on BG now so ordered a 18650 tube and a tail to mod up a second.

[RollerBoySE]

@kiriba-ru

@RollerBoySE

Now let’s see what I can use the original head for (before it fails)…
(it legos and works with an S2, but doesn’t cover the o-ring properly (and I don’t really want to file down the tube, cause then the S2 head won’t make contact any longer);
it’s a little bit short to make proper contact on an A6 from the first batch)

EDIT: Of course it legos well with the A6, turned out it was the tail section that wasn’t screwed on properly.

You should not try this. S2+ have 1.25 pitch metric thread while A6/S41 1.0 pitch metric thread.
Well, I dont wonder why manufactor is making changes and new parts dont fit older one. I wonder HOW astrolux/bangood have put two tubes (black S1) in one box with one flashlight that have 0.3mm OD threads difference.

Well, you can easily (no force) screw the S41S Colored head on the S2+ Green tube and it does light up. There is no damage to the threads, on either part, as far as I can tell.

The A6 tube is however a better fit overall, so that’s what I’m using now. It also allows me to use a protected KeepPower 18650 3500mAH (contains a Sanyo GA + protection PCB) so I dont have to worry about the head developing a short.

[Jerommel]

Yeah !
My S41S XP-G3 has arrived. :partying_face:

Wow, it’s bright !!

But mine also has a little play in the lens.
Not rattling, but you can move it around a little.
I’ll put in a thicker O-ring. No big deal.

The clip looks cheap and doesn’t stay in its place too well.

And now i’m gonna take it apart for inspection.

[Kusie]

Finally received my S41S replacement head with XP-G3 from BG, took nearly 2 months. Unfortunately while the LEDs are fine now, the same faulty driver was used sending the light straight to moonlight from Turbo if used with the 18650 tube/battery.
Makes the light kinda useless to use with 18650…
My understanding is that Mateminco used the BLF A6 driver layout but used different/cheaper components? In that case, would replacing the driver with the original A6 driver available at BG solve the problem? Anybody tried that yet?
K.

[dchomak]

Mine kicks down to moonlight from turbo also, with both 18650 and 18350.

[Sukoi]

Yep, mine too… :rage:

[kiriba-ru]

I still dont understand what was they thinking about when decided to change knurling shape in SS version.
Tail is defenetly not flashlight part. Maybe it is some tool or even weapon.
I think it can be used to cook a good thin chop…

[freeme (youtube.com/@1thedeals)]

I will feedback to them for direct stepdown to ML issue.

@Kusie

Finally received my S41S replacement head with XP-G3 from BG, took nearly 2 months. Unfortunately while the LEDs are fine now, the same faulty driver was used sending the light straight to moonlight from Turbo if used with the 18650 tube/battery. Makes the light kinda useless to use with 18650… My understanding is that Mateminco used the BLF A6 driver layout but used different/cheaper components? In that case, would replacing the driver with the original A6 driver available at BG solve the problem? Anybody tried that yet? K.

[Kusie]

Thanks but I’ve told them nearly two months ago when the faulty S41s arrived. No reaction whatsoever.

[Texas_Ace]

Are they still gluing the heads on these?

I just finished my XP-G3 90+ CRI mixed tint light and I love it. I would like to get another one but if they are glued then there is no point.

The tint is amazing, rich colors everywhere and output is impressive as well. Even with the stock driver it is making over 3600 lumens (with a fresh battery should be a bit higher). Toss in a better driver and I think it could hit 4000 lumens if I really wanted although it would be pointless since on turbo it gets too hot to hold within a minute or 2 already lol.

It is an amazing pocket rocket. Even with an 18350 it was making close to 3000 lumens IIRC (didn’t test it since replacing a dedomed emitter).

Sucks they had to glue the head, guess it is a lesson is not complaining about things or they will be taken away.

[RollerBoySE]

@Texas_Ace

Are they still gluing the heads on these?

No, I don’t think so; at least my spare head, received a week ago, wasn’t glued.

[Keepitsharp]

I don’t think they are still gluing the heads. My replacement was easy to open up.

I unscrewed my early glued ones without too much trouble and described here:

ENEDED

Brilliant! This should be stickyied so all can see. Can anyone confirm that new orders for this light will include the new head? I have had 2 sitting in my cart for what seems like forever I am reposting the pictures by Keepitsharp, hope he doesn’t mind [image] [image] [image]

Modified the early defective one and replaced emitters. Happily now have two S41S heads, and, you know, two heads are better than one!

A pocket rocket, for sure!

[emarkd]

I bought a whole new light, S41S, after the head re-design. It was not glued. Its now a quad 4000K R90 219c on a mtnelec tiny25 Bistro driver. Much better.