FREEME ✌ LUMINTOP GT94X 4* SBT90.2 24000lm 2950m 21700 Thrower - ALIVE

a_idiot · October 6, 2021, 12:25pm

Hi, I’m interested

freeme · October 6, 2021, 6:27pm

Shared. Let me know if you have any questions.

Rockjunkie15 · October 9, 2021, 1:42pm

I would like the Freeme coupon please.

Thanks!

freeme · October 9, 2021, 2:33pm

Sent. [quote=Rockjunkie15] I would like the Freeme coupon please. Thanks! [/quote]

liteupmynite · October 13, 2021, 10:16pm

My light has arrived in the USA. Est. delivery: 10/15/21

freeme · October 14, 2021, 7:20pm

Mine got released from local custom after 3 days. Hope to receive it by Saturday.

liteupmynite · October 14, 2021, 7:27pm

Out for delivery today!!!

freeme · October 15, 2021, 8:02am

Envy. I fell out of my chair when Neal told me he forgotten my order.

liteupmynite · October 17, 2021, 6:58pm

GT94X vs GT94

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DM_beamshots · October 17, 2021, 7:55pm

intrested!

Maxxsounds · October 17, 2021, 8:15pm

~~interested~~

freeme · October 19, 2021, 12:55pm

Texas_Ace reply on GT94X. Buyers please take note.

Texas_Ace:

Tom E:

Thanks for the reviews guys! Numbers are underwhelming, but best choice for cells for testing is 30T's or maybe 50T/50S's.
It's pretty much a given, and TA has said it a few times, going from 1 to "n" LED's in the same diameter head will result in loss of throw, maybe 10% or so. Unless something changes, like better focusing and optics or better LED's, you are not going to improve throw. In the case of the GT94, they did lower the throw #'s from the GT90, but for some reason for the GT94X, they raised the throw #'s even higher than the GT90 which doesn't make sense. The 21700's certainly help but probably not enough with only 4 cells.
 I'm sure TA has an answer for this, like maybe a higher bin SBT90.2 was supposed to happen but didn't, and/or was supposed to be 8 cells, improvements to optics, etc.


I just heard about this light the other day myself, I was not involved with it, I would of not gone along with such a silly looking and horribly unbalanced light with a 4 cell battery tube with that massive head lol. Everyone used to complain about the 8 cell tube but didn’t realize they were more for balance then performance (both aesthetics and weight). That said, there is no way that light is 2.1mcd, someone messed up the testing. 1.4mcd I could see, even up to ~1.6mcd would be reasonable. You are correct, all else being equal the throw numbers should be slightly less with more LED’s. In this case the 21700’s do give this a raw power advantage but at best I could see that matching the GT90 (although still unlikely with 4 cells). It is possible that they tested with an 8 cell tube.

Hardusvd70:

They also mentioned that the intant turbo access moved from 21A up to 28A at turbo mode. Should this higher amps have any effect on the intensity? Is the SBT90.2 not already flatten out at 22Amps?

The current rating is meaningless since it uses an FET driver. The actual current is as much as the cells/springs etc can deliver. The normal GT94 was tested up around 30A IIRC. I would expect 4x 21700’s to preform basically the same as 8x 18650 current wise, possibly worse. All that is a long winded way to say the lumen numbers sound very reasonable but the throw numbers sound like someone did the math wrong. Possibly got the distance wrong and that threw off the calculation etc.

dave1010 · October 20, 2021, 7:57am

Thanks for openly sharing this freeme. It’s good to see that issues aren’t being hidden.

The GT94X still looks like an awesome light!

ChibiM · October 20, 2021, 8:36am

Love these group buys for lights that aren't tested!

freeme · October 20, 2021, 1:30pm

What a shame, you are starting to behave exactly like that honest guy.

There has been some hiccups for our order but we did manage to pick our light from office today.

Whatever Texas_Ace & Tom E comment and predictions for GT94X performance, based on his experiences for GT94 and GT90 setup, are most probably true and accurate.

We trust the original driver and firmware designers more than anyone else.

Huge thanks to Hardusvd70 for sharing his early findings. I immediately alerted NL within half an hour when i saw his reply. However, i am not sure if LT will be taking any actions based on our feedback though. I will keep readers updated if manufacturer or another one who is involved in GT94X project is willing to share any information with us.

ChibiM · October 20, 2021, 1:22pm

Oh, oops.. I hope not. haha

I definitely appreciate that you did that.

I know this is just my personal opinion, but it has happened too often that I would bring this again to people's attention.

It's nice to get good deals, but why not wait with sharing your codes till you, or somebody else, actually tested the light? Especially with these highly expensive lights.

freeme · October 20, 2021, 2:29pm

Unfortunately, it does not work this way...

I was almost never given the luxury of time to complete and publish my results before an new product launch. That is why i would rather refer my buyers to read from other independent reviewers who have worked with numerous flashlights (e.g 1lumen, TomeE, Maukkae, zeroair, Liquidretro, Lumensreview, etc) instead, because i know there a group readers whom enjoy the technical aspect of flashlight performance. As for us(1thedeals), we prefer to focus on producing contents that are easier to understand, and less mundane videos for non-flashlight geeks.

No manufacturers or vendors will seek for my "approval" for their projects. By the time they tell me about the upcoming models, the design is more or less completed (90%+?), lab tested, and raw materials being ordered. They are going to sell their products one way or another, with or without me.

BFers are NO fools. I thought you here long enough to understand this fact.

Sunnysunsun · October 20, 2021, 3:51pm

You don’t have to be a fool to get duped. We’ve had countless cases of manufacturers releasing half baked products that end up being horrible in one way or the other.

Take the Meote FM1 for example. The launch edition of it was unusable by most accounts. It was then revised and fixed. Why didn’t the manufacturer and you iron out the issues before production?

ChibiM · October 20, 2021, 3:56pm

Freeme, I disagree

I think it's fine to do a group buy and gamble on a flashlight of 20 dollar or so, but when it comes to more expensive lights, I would be a bit more careful

freeme · October 20, 2021, 11:52pm

For MEOTE case, BG and I trusted them to deliver for our group buy because the people behind MEOTE have good track records for building flashlights for years. FM1 project took them 6 months from concept to product launch, so i do not believe they are trying to dupe us with a $30+ light intentionally.

Initially, their newly appointed MEOTE director was very keen to resolve the issues, then claimed that engineers would look into all our mentioned issues. I remembered trying to get updates from MEOTE after a week but no reply. After a month of so, i was told that that director had stepped down and left the company. From that point, i had no choice but to rely on BG to compensate the affected buyers.

Issues were introduced during the final production. Most likely due to excessive cost cutting and poor design integration.

"Why didn’t the manufacturer and you iron out the issues before production?"