GB BLF LuckySun D80-SE Need long tubes? -3/3/16

Your references are not relative to how I understood the question - question was on the “BLF X6”, not the SS/Cu Rev 2 version - night and day. Emitters and drivers are different. Lumens is in my PVC light box – same exact design and builder as Dale’s. Our #'s have compared very close over the years with using the same light box, same meter, over many comparative lights. The SS/Cu or alum “KRONOS” X6 is a different animal in cost and function - XPL HI emitter and higher amps with our BLF FET+1 driver. The original BLF X6 was not so good in amps. Also for Dale’s D80, I’ve gotten two BLF D80’s and both performed much poorly that Dale’s in amps. Been through the ringer testing the first BLF D80, and best I could tell it was an under-achieving LED emitter. Also my lumens is quoted at 30 secs - not sure what Dale quoted. He tends to quote the instant startup reading on his hot rod lights - I’m attempting to do it the recommended way, as we all used to. These #'s were freshly taken yesterday, and have no reason to doubt them.

Edit: Hhhmm. I checked the lumens I measured back in January on the 1st D80, a 3C tint version, and it was about 1100 lumens for about the same amps measured -- I'll do some sanity checks and testing on my lumens measurements -- I'm about 175 lumens lower now. The problem with these type of group buys is we have no assurance of the LED bin used - they won't tell us, and therefore, things can change in batch production. Also I could have gotten a low performing light, or something wrong that's restricting output --- I'll double check all of it this evening. I got lights with known output I can check, then review this D80 unit specifically - might be something in the tail or the LED.

Edit #2:

Did a bunch of re-tests last night, and seems like something did go astray with the D80 measurements the first time, quoted above. Dunno, am using a different Samsung 30Q cell now, and maybe the room temperature had an effect (1st readings done a few degrees cooler at 61F), but that wouldn't explain it all. The battery is suspicious because even the tail amps is up now.

New measurements, D80 (stock 1A tint):

On a Samsung 30Q @4.21v: 4.05A measured at the tail w/clamp meter:

lumens: 1088 @start, 1037 @30 secs, throw: 31 kcd, taken at 5m (352 meters)

The BLF X6 stayed the same as the earlier readings in lumens and throw. Again, this is an original BLF X6 from the original BLF X6 group buy. There are many X6's around, some by Eagle Eye, some by Manker, and various driver/emitter combos, so several choices are available now.

Btw, the BLF D80 I ordered on Jan 26th (the one tested here) came with the long battery tube , so guess they've been shipping them for a while now.

Stock, this D80 can really throw for it's size!

Thanks, Tom. I missed that about the (earlier) BLF X6. :blush:

And thanks for re-checking your measurements. :slight_smile:

I’m sorry. I was imprecise with my original questions.

I intended to ask about the newest D80 and newest X6. I guess I should have said:

“How does the BLF LuckySun D80-SE compare with the BLF Kronos X6-SE V2?”

I also did not specify Al vs Cu, but my understanding was that the Al and CU versions of the Kronos X6-SE V2 used the same parts except for the type of metal in the host. If it makes a different in the light the I’ll pick the AL X6-SE V2 since the LuckySun D80-SE is also Al and that is more of an apples-to-apples.

Thank you for all the detailed information!

Please post a build thread. I’ve been wanting to do this since the tubes were even suggested.

GearBest has blown through the extended tubes they stocked for protected batteries. LuckySun can make some more, but the price will be higher for this run…I’m guessing around $5. They need interest in quite a few to make a run…guessing around 200, so I am making a list here for it. Please let me know if you want one or more.

Thanks,
krono
(Updated in OP)

Have you thought about waiting until they just make another batch of D80 lights, and then they will be making tubes anyway , so they can just make extra tubes, and it will be cheaper. Also, if they’re making special tubes, why not ask for a double tube ?

Hey Robo,

Have you given those cows cataracts, yet?

Maybe we need another group buy for the new and improved, BLF - D80 “KronoRoboZooka”!!!

O:-)

Was wondering bout that afterwards, but the BLF D80 and Kronos X6's are so different in price and scope of mods that I didn't consider it. Now we have Astrolux names to deal with as well, sooo confusing. I got pretty much all of them as well.

I am not sure about the cows having cataracts , but I am sure they have seen spots that made them wonder what happened a few times.

I am thinking I may get a XM-L2 U4 next time I order something from Richard though, and try one in the D80, as I like the tint better from one of the U4 1C dedomed and it seems they give a little better output even. Also the XP-L HI is doing about all it can handle with the 5.3 amps I believe, should be right at the max for it.

just ordered
do you think a samsung 2600mah green laptop pull can give me problems (such as to much heat in the battery or fire by over-requesting ampere to the battery which can not give )?

I don’t think so. The way an LED behaves as current increases combined with the way a battery behaves under load usually keep that under control. Typically an extremely low resistance load or dead short are what cause the problems you mentioned.

Basically the battery is what dictates the current discharge in our flashlights not so much the light/driver.

I’m thoroughly fed up. I ordered one of these back on the 13th March. Got a dispatch notification and tracking number reasonably quickly. However since then the tracking info hasn’t changed a bit:

Mar 15, 2016
06:39 pm
Information Received China Post

I’m really really pissed off. I’ve never ordered from them before and don’t think I will again. I tried to contact them with their live chat but it’s offline lol! Have sent them a message through the support section.

Absolutely awful service.

Hey VanZan! Sorry for your frustration. I think you will still get you package. Those of us who order from there usually understand that it will take 3-4 weeks to get the product ordered sometimes even more. The payoff for the long wait is a good quality light for the cheapest price possible. I can understand your frustration though. Especially if you were not expecting this.

+1
Usually it will take a minimum of 10 to 14 days and then you wont see any progress as far as tracking, from the time it leaves China until it hits the states

Ah OK, thanks guys. I have ordered stuff from China before just not GB.

No problem. I get frustrated even when I’m expecting a long wait. :stuck_out_tongue:

Please be so kind and help me.

I’m searching but I can’t find table with lumens output and runtime for different modes.
Can you please give me a link to this table.

Thank you very much.

Few pictures of D80 SE




Can you please help me?
I was also searching for online review with runtimes and lumens but I can’t find any review.

Thank you

Check out the FIRST post on this thread. The details you want are buried there.