Technically speaking, switch in the tailcap and remote pressure switch operate similarly, they both break the electrical path.
I don’t use remotes myself when shooting - this is a good question for the Maxtoch techs. That company however is heavily focussed on a huge military trade show right now and Amanda advises they will be for a little while yet - their core business.
I doubt they will do big GB discount for this light so some may miss out - there may be some code discount but at $93 it represents great price/quality/performance value. They will no doubt make that decision when they get back to business as usual after the big trade show. Some of the guys who have helped develop the light occasionally link up with BLF, but we are not seeking $$$ advantage for that.
Actually glad to hear of your low readings Jeansy - exactly the problem I spoke of a day or so ago. These meters have a shelf life and often start reading quite low when they are stuffed. Your ratio however at 160k for the Olight on boost and 230k for the Maxtoch on high sounds near enough. By this, Maxtoch is about 44% higher, so if you had Olight at its normal 250k max, the Maxtoch would be about 360k, and given its bigger head and stronger throw it may well read 365k at a further 10 meters distance. In the ballpark.
Jeansy can you check the medium on the 2X - it could read about 170k on your meter - should be ahead of the M3X-UT’s boost. All these figures doubtful however, as meter is reading very low now, and readings may no longer read with consistency across range. New meter needed.
Yes it’s a real shame, the meter was previously bang on for several manufacturers claims but like you say it must have lost sensitivity.
I think the scale is about right but I’m afraid on medium the Maxtoch is not as bright as the M3XS on high, it’s closer match than high vs high for sure tho. I’m away for a couple days now but will give you the figures when I’m back if you like.
I did 5m inside and then once it was dark I did 10m outside, these were almost exactly the same across all the lights so neither gained from the extra range, maybe I will try further next time.
Tint does appear better also on Maxtoch but I need to go hunting and compare in actual use with some real range.
Only plus points for Olight really are, slightly lighter, dual switch, allowing mode lock better and possibly nicer finish/looks, although that’s personal preference.
As it stands, the Maxtoch clearly wins on both throw and price, it’s really a no brainer to get this light.
Great work, all involved 
Jeansy if you get a chance can you still test your 2X on medium.
It may look visibly less bright than the M3X’s XPL-HI on boost, but what I have noticed is that XPLs have alot more glare than dedomed XMLs with their warmer tint, but this does not translate to more lux on test. Might be worth a look. My 2X is about 260k on medium - as is gadgetman’s.
Looking forward to beamshots and more numbers on this light. The Fenix tk76 I had been watching just sold so I’m back to focusing on lights more in my price. This and the L6 will now probably be next purchases provided they live up to hype generated.
With new Cree production process you can loose more than 30%… Some of us already experienced that
Maybe you are not aware of that yet(cause you guys still have old stock emitters) but soon it will start happening to all of us.
So 160kcd of Olight and 250kcd of Maxtoch could happen sooner we expect and we’ll not be able to help ourselves… Manufacturers will stay at same throw figures of course…
Meters should not be blamed to much. Even budget ones can tell a lot about light intensity. Djozz talked a lot about that here:
and here:For ease of mind, do not open up cheap chinese stuff: luxmeters
Well I just tested this out at an industrial estate and was very impressed. Spotted a silo of a cable manufacturer that according to google maps was approx 1km away and shining the Maxtoch on high we could just see the beam on the silo with the naked eye, it was very slight, but 3 of us all confirmed we could see it. Can’t wait to take it out into the bush where it’s nice and dark :).
Sorry, didn’t make myself very clear there, I did test not just my visible perception. The lux was lower, not much at all but it was lower, think it was 10-20k less on medium compared to the M3XS on high. I will report back when I’m home, but that may be a few days now. I wrote down the figures so I was accurate reporting them, I just didn’t call medium out on the vid.
Just out of interest, what tailcap readings are you guys getting (and what method are you using to get them)?
Updated in OP also.
I got the OK to put the review up and it looks like the GB is just around the corner.
Again for those who do not want to watch the entire video , the teardown stills and beamshots start at 5:15 in the video and the live footage outside immediately following that. Keep in mind the beamshot stills are much more true to life than the live footage from my cheap video camera.
I have the Maxtoch M24 Sniper and love it.
I want the 2X but I need to know that after de-doming whether the tint will be good and not a crappy green tint.
I looked at the video but video tints are not reliable.
Anyone have one yet?
The tint is actually a nice neutral tint with the dedomed U4 1A , this stands true in the 3 M24’s and both of the 2X lights I have. The one field I do beamshots and videos in (175 and 400 yards) is actually so green right now even my cool white lights seem to have a green tint sometimes.
EDIT: here is 2 of my M24’s one with a dedomed U4 1C (very slightly more yellowish than 1A) next to the XP-L HI in the other one with the HI being more of a cool white.
Great review robo, good to see the beamshots.
Far thrower, mine is far less green than the Olight.
Here are the ones I was looking for……. the 2X with XP-L HI (6 amps) and dedomed U4 1A (4.5 amps)………
The target is that little spec almost in the middle of the road at far end of beam.
HI (6 amps) 655 yards
U4 1A (4.5 amps) dedomed 655 yards
Thanks Jeansy
Nice review robo, Thanks. I’ll buy one whether GB happens or not
Thanks, glad to do it.
I think as soon as the trade show is over that Maxtoch is attending , a GB should be taking place. They are really busy with that right now and most of their attention focused towards that show.
I got a new flashlight! I got a new flashlight! (snoopy dance)
Dark? Wherefore art though oh dreary soul? Show thyself and I shall pierce thee through thoust miserable heart!
Critical with these super throwers to measure at full 10m in pitch black conditions if possible.
Am picking up one of the new 2Xs hopefully to test tonight - I want to compare the production 2X with a new reel batch of U4 leds against our prototype light with earlier U4s.
Ok have not yet tested new production run 2X - but here is some test data conducted tonight in perfect pitch black test conditions with fresh charged pana 3400s.
Tonight I tested my own prototype 2X sample at 4 meters, 5 meters and 6 meters. Results = 316k at 4m, 338k at 5m, and 355k at 6m. Given this progression it should match factory spec of 365k at 10 meters. The lux difference between say 3-5 meter testing and 6+ meter tests is quite alot. Just something to bear in mind if you feel your torch isn’t up to it, but you are doing shorter distance measurements.
Also measured my M24 Sniper with its 4.5 amp board and dedomed U4 led (same as in new 2X) and it recorded 290k at 6m. This would likely work out close to 300k at 10 meters. A great little light and an absolute favourite.
Note: external recordings in my environment never match readings inside the building - more ambient light outside etc.
Thanks for the figures Mudgripz will be awaiting the production results.